| 23:59 | mk01 | heap I told you already. nothing is perfect |
| 23:59 | heap | mk01: yeah, hold on im doing clear install of arch from cubox installer then i will try install xbmc-cubox without any upgrade |
| 00:02 | heap | i found http://www.solid-run.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1430 |
| 00:03 | heap | looks like its open issue |
| 00:06 | Whitepyro | Girlfriends too busy using my cubox.... |
| 00:06 | Whitepyro | lol |
| 00:06 | Whitepyro | will have to do it tomorrow |
| 00:07 | xraxor | timl take the .img.xz or try this one done today http://d-h.st/UXA |
| 00:10 | timl | xraxor: thx! |
| 00:10 | timl | worked nicely. now trying to figure out how geexbox mounts nfs shares :) |
| 00:16 | xraxor | ok, timl if you get it to work try XBian http://imx.solid-run.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=528 |
| 00:16 | Whitepyro | I love my xbian :D |
| 00:17 | mk01 | you will end up like we others: first RPI, second, then cubox, then XYZ |
| 00:17 | mk01 | this never stops |
| 00:17 | Whitepyro | LOL |
| 00:17 | Whitepyro | I still have xbian on my RPI |
| 00:17 | Whitepyro | :P |
| 00:18 | xraxor | me too :) |
| 00:18 | timl | xraxor, Whitepyro: any experiences in terms of what works better? ive been using raspbmcon the pi before. looking at geexbox i already dont like the fact that all processes run as root |
| 00:18 | timl | guess that's a side effect of using something based of openwrt or whatever they have here |
| 00:18 | Whitepyro | I've always found Xbian the easiest and most straight forward.. They have a great configuration set. Which intrigues me. |
| 00:19 | Whitepyro | The only problem with the Cubox-i one is that it doesn't have the expand SD card |
| 00:19 | Whitepyro | but i did that manually.. hehe.. Not everyone would know where to search to expand it. But I posted it in the thread of others to use too. |
| 00:19 | xraxor | but you can do that with GParted on a linux system, mine worked |
| 00:20 | Whitepyro | yeah I already did all that |
| 00:20 | Whitepyro | but RPI version was a one click option |
| 00:20 | Whitepyro | :P |
| 00:20 | mk01 | Whitepyro: |
| 00:20 | xraxor | lol, ;) |
| 00:20 | timl | does xbian also support cec properly? |
| 00:20 | Whitepyro | Um.. My tv doesn't allow CEC to pass through |
| 00:20 | Whitepyro | I've never gotten it to work with my switch |
| 00:20 | Whitepyro | :\ |
| 00:20 | Whitepyro | But the switch supports CEC |
| 00:21 | mk01 | XBian has all this, unfortunatelly die to old kernel many extra functions are not ported to it |
| 00:21 | timl | ok that's good to know. i couldn't live without that |
| 00:21 | heap | |
| 00:21 | timl | ill give that a go as well |
| 00:21 | xraxor | CEC is not stable on the cubox-i |
| 00:21 | mk01 | dynamic repartioning, cloning and for instance even bootable .img file creation on click |
| 00:21 | Whitepyro | I'm not sure if its a Xbian problem yet, but i can't get over 1mb/sec over network |
| 00:21 | timl | oha |
| 00:21 | Whitepyro | still trying to figure out what the issue is.. |
| 00:21 | Whitepyro | Mk01 said something maybe the usb bus is out of sync |
| 00:21 | timl | that would suck, im watching all my movies over nfs usually |
| 00:22 | Whitepyro | but I can't figure out how to find that out lol |
| 00:22 | xraxor | i can transfer files with samba at about 6MB/s from HDD attached to cubox-i |
| 00:22 | Whitepyro | I can't even hit 1mb |
| 00:22 | Whitepyro | ;| |
| 00:22 | mk01 | Whitepyro: we will track it down, don't worry. as I showed you more than 7 without issues. |
| 00:23 | Whitepyro | oh I know |
| 00:23 | timl | mk01: are you working for solidrun? |
| 00:23 | mk01 | timl: nope. |
| 00:23 | Whitepyro | Do you think it's possible that because its a usb3.0 hard-drive plugged into a usb2 hub that the back porting is the issue? |
| 00:23 | Whitepyro | But I also tried a usb2 thumb drive with same result. So i dunno |
| 00:23 | xraxor | we should be reaching much faster speeds, but this is not just xbian for me OE also transfer wasnt that fast |
| 00:24 | xraxor | i also have USB3 attached |
| 00:24 | Whitepyro | even tried different file systems |
| 00:24 | mk01 | Whitepyro: you can discuss this tomorrow with _rmk_, ... I'm not specially experienced kernel hacker but ... |
| 00:24 | xraxor | i have EXT4 |
| 00:24 | Whitepyro | ntfs = the worst.. |
| 00:24 | Whitepyro | ext4 .. |
| 00:24 | Whitepyro | same results in speed. |
| 00:24 | Whitepyro | hehe |
| 00:24 | heap | uhm this arch for cubox is kind of broken ;/ |
| 00:24 | heap | mk01: i did fresh install, pacman -S xbmc |
| 00:25 | xraxor | did you try in both ports? like i use the bottom one...as if that could be it lol |
| 00:25 | Whitepyro | xraxor you running straight linux off cubox at all? |
| 00:25 | heap | and it failed to retrieve some instllation files / packages from mirror |
| 00:25 | heap | arght |
| 00:25 | mk01 | Whitepyro gyus, just don't panic. all this is from my point of view such gathering info until all the work done will be consolidated. |
| 00:25 | Whitepyro | I'm not panicing :) |
| 00:25 | Whitepyro | panicking |
| 00:26 | mk01 | imagine how far cubox-i is in past weeks almost from zero |
| 00:26 | xraxor | no panic here either, loving it so far, no crashes is good |
| 00:26 | Whitepyro | Oh I know |
| 00:26 | xraxor | exactly, such a jump, on steroids almost |
| 00:26 | mk01 | of course it is "panicking" |
| 00:26 | Whitepyro | Has anyone tried running straight linux aka ubuntu whatever..... And installed handbrake? |
| 00:26 | heap | im afraid to do packamn -Sy |
| 00:26 | xraxor | i tried debian jessie |
| 00:26 | Whitepyro | I would love to get a second box just for encodes if it'd work. Just waiting for the other microsd to test on my own. |
| 00:27 | xraxor | but didnt install handbrake |
| 00:27 | Whitepyro | I don't wanna format my 32gig one hehe. |
| 00:27 | mk01 | the biggest drawback currently for distros which are on 3.0 is simply the 3.0 kernel. |
| 00:27 | Whitepyro | I got one heck of a deal on a 64 gig one, actually paid less then my 32 LOL |
| 00:27 | timl | mk01: whats the issue with 3.0 kernels? |
| 00:27 | xraxor | lol, where? i need one for my ASUS tablet |
| 00:28 | mk01 | timl: hah ;) everything. |
| 00:28 | Whitepyro | ebay |
| 00:28 | xraxor | timl = OLD |
| 00:28 | Whitepyro | got the 64 for 20$ |
| 00:28 | Whitepyro | :) |
| 00:28 | xraxor | sounds good, class 10? |
| 00:28 | Whitepyro | I was quite pleased with such a great price |
| 00:28 | mk01 | timl: no, it must be said differently |
| 00:28 | Whitepyro | yup |
| 00:28 | Whitepyro | I won't buy if it wasn't class 10 hehe |
| 00:29 | xraxor | branded? i must keep an eye. |
| 00:29 | Whitepyro | *wouldn't rather... |
| 00:29 | Whitepyro | lemme check one sec. |
| 00:29 | timl | mk01: sounds fun |
| 00:30 | mk01 | timl: simply actual linux kernel has so much to offer. thanks to all the generation changes up to todays 3.14. |
| 00:30 | xraxor | mk01 is it hard to mount nfs on xbian? timl is asking at #geexbox, not sure when he will get answer tho |
| 00:30 | timl | mk01: i even run 3.2 on a couple of boxes without issues |
| 00:30 | mk01 | xraxor: you are joking, no ? |
| 00:30 | mk01 | :D |
| 00:31 | timl | mk01: they do have nfs support in the user land utils |
| 00:31 | timl | im mostly wondering what the geexbox way is to mount shares at boot-up |
| 00:31 | timl | fstab doesnt seem to be used |
| 00:31 | mk01 | timl: no idea. really. |
| 00:31 | xraxor | lol |
| 00:31 | mk01 | I;m not big fan of "broken" distributions |
| 00:31 | timl | maybe xbmc has a fancy graphical configuration option to do that :) |
| 00:32 | timl | yeah me neither |
| 00:32 | mk01 | timl: yes, maybe. like in OL |
| 00:32 | timl | in this case, when using it as an htpc though im happy if i need to configure as little as possible :) |
| 00:32 | mk01 | timl: as I always say - the two things are not exclusive ! |
| 00:32 | timl | mk01: what are you running on it? |
| 00:33 | timl | mk01: right but configuring xbmc on debian aint fun either and is a bit of fiddling :) |
| 00:33 | mk01 | timl: heh. |
| 00:33 | timl | im sure id be capable of doing it, but im sure i had to puke a couple of times in the process |
| 00:33 | Whitepyro | lol |
| 00:34 | mk01 | timl: now realize, that you don't have |
| 00:34 | mk01 | that you have Debian |
| 00:34 | mk01 | a you just install .deb package |
| 00:34 | timl | right but i see already that xbmc isnt linked against libcec so there the pain already starts for me |
| 00:35 | mk01 | no, xbmc will install libcec |
| 00:35 | mk01 | as needed |
| 00:35 | timl | oh this is pulled in by xbmc. ok didnt know |
| 00:35 | timl | im not really up-to-date here to be honest. i think last time i checked xbmc on debian it wasnt even in the archive yet. so quite some time ago :) |
| 00:35 | mk01 | timl: together with GUI configuration system |
| 00:36 | mk01 | updates management] |
| 00:36 | heap | mk01: i just got msg from pepedog, so they works on it.. its borken |
| 00:37 | mk01 | there is literally so much to do (in a possitive way I mean). and so little time |
| 00:38 | timl | mk01: ok thats cool. think that's my main objective here, doing as little as possible :) |
| 00:38 | mk01 | timl: then buy RPI for 2 months |
| 00:38 | mk01 | or bet=ter three |
| 00:38 | timl | i actually came here from the rapi because its hardware sucks |
| 00:39 | timl | but i got the old version and didnt want to bother to buy the new version if there's a better alternative now |
| 00:39 | Whitepyro | I loved to hate the RPI., hated that the ethernet was linked to the usb ,,,, |
| 00:39 | timl | yeah thats a big pita |
| 00:39 | mk01 | timl heh, I will tell this sentence 100x today i have the feeling: " nothing is perfect" |
| 00:40 | timl | i think it actually sucks for most aspects. it aint perfect for any task and aims to fulfill too many |
| 00:40 | heew | quick question, has anyone compared the boot times using sdxc vs sd hc /sd? |
| 00:40 | Whitepyro | Everything is pefection :P |
| 00:41 | mk01 | heew honestly? changing boot media is not the way to go if you expect miracles. |
| 00:41 | mk01 | it doesn't matter |
| 00:41 | heew | who said I was expecting miracles? |
| 00:42 | heew | i was mearly asking if anyone had |
| 00:42 | mk01 | miracle = difference you can feel above level of standard deviation of measurement |
| 00:43 | heew | so an sd card that performs at below 30MB/s will not have a preceivable difference if its rated at 80MB/s but most likely will work at around 60? |
| 00:43 | mk01 | heew: only of course you are not booting IBM DB2 database system with storage around 1TB |
| 00:44 | heew | and sdxc card that is |
| 00:44 | mk01 | heew not on boot time |
| 00:44 | mk01 | no |
| 00:45 | heap | timl: u make xbmc in debian arm working? |
| 00:45 | timl | nah thats a misunderstanding |
| 00:45 | mk01 | and during working with the system - maybe you will get benefit. but this highly deoends on how much ram you have and what is your portoflio of applications |
| 00:45 | timl | how's the heating situation of the cubox? it feels fairly warm. any issues with over heating? |
| 00:45 | heew | is taht because the imx6 is the bottleneck on boot? |
| 00:46 | mk01 | no |
| 00:46 | heap | timl: hum? |
| 00:46 | mk01 | it is because the _whole_ small system (but including X, XBMC, etc) |
| 00:46 | xraxor | timl me no, and i have it in a close place |
| 00:46 | mk01 | is 450mb in size |
| 00:46 | heew | what is the normal boot time for say ubuntu then?? |
| 00:46 | timl | kthx |
| 00:47 | mk01 | that means worst case it is loaded in memory in 10s !!! and then runs all the time in ram. |
| 00:48 | heew | well I was tthinking of using an i2 ultra as a destok for someone |
| 00:48 | xraxor | timl the plastic feels warm bcos thats the way it spreads the heat. rabehh (works for Solidrun) said that somewhere. |
| 00:48 | heap | timl: so did u? u wrote u made it working... with some fiddling.. |
| 00:48 | heew | and I dont feel like getting an external drive for them |
| 00:48 | heew | desktop* |
| 00:48 | mk01 | heew: you see? that;'s why I was asking what will be the applications |
| 00:48 | heap | Coburn: hi, u wantend to say me something ? |
| 00:48 | heew | well its two fold |
| 00:49 | heew | i wanted to see if any diff on boot to see if I should spend the money for an sdxc for the i4pro |
| 00:49 | mk01 | heew: I load XServer in 6s. on class4 card with 10MB/s speed. |
| 00:49 | heew | then the second case for the desktop |
| 00:49 | Coburn | heap: oh nothing, i was going to comment last night but went home |
| 00:49 | Coburn | honestly, i can't see the need for a sdxc |
| 00:50 | Coburn | 16/32GB SDHC is enough for me :P |
| 00:50 | mk01 | heew: you see ;) |
| 00:50 | Coburn | Anything else can be on a USB SSD or USB HDD |
| 00:50 | mk01 | it simply doesn't make sense |
| 00:50 | heew | even if you plan to run a desktop word document editing and web browsing completly off the sd card? |
| 00:50 | Coburn | if you're doing browsing, never cache to SD card |
| 00:50 | heap | Coburn: ah ok |
| 00:50 | mk01 | heew: look . |
| 00:51 | Coburn | because cache = writes like a tank = more wear and tear = less lifespan of your microSD |
| 00:51 | mk01 | it can be that you loose 1s on browser load |
| 00:51 | Coburn | yes. |
| 00:51 | heap | does anybody have any idea if xbmc works on debian arm from cubox installer? |
| 00:51 | mk01 | 3s on office |
| 00:51 | Coburn | heap: it did on dove cuboxes, but i recommend doing your own install (more techie but worth it ;)) |
| 00:51 | mk01 | but this makes no differnce in perception of the speed of the system for user |
| 00:52 | heap | Coburn: dove - the oldones? |
| 00:52 | Coburn | yes |
| 00:52 | Coburn | Well, if you're multitasking and your browser is caching to disk and you need to load an program |
| 00:52 | heap | Coburn: own install, u mean compilation? |
| 00:52 | Coburn | no, download tarball, make partitions on sd, format, install |
| 00:52 | heap | Coburn: why?:) |
| 00:53 | Coburn | the SD card is going to be "locked" and have to wait until the writes finish before you can read the program |
| 00:53 | mk01 | Cuburn: when it is last time you cached internet content ? And how much you saved on bandwidth or latencies? |
| 00:53 | heap | Coburn: i just installed arch from cubox installer but xbmc is broken with it ;/ so looking for something working.. |
| 00:53 | Coburn | mk01: uh, all browsers cache it when you visit pages |
| 00:53 | mk01 | I doubt than anything (if you don;t have V24bis analogue modem) |
| 00:53 | Coburn | look in your browser - Temporary Internet Files (IE), Cache (Chrome/Firefox) |
| 00:54 | mk01 | no, it is emoty |
| 00:54 | Coburn | You can disable cache, which prolongs your microSD |
| 00:54 | mk01 | I don;t use them |
| 00:54 | Coburn | Sure, but default configs on browsers is to cache stuff |
| 00:54 | Coburn | a power user can disable it |
| 00:54 | Coburn | saves I/O |
| 00:55 | mk01 | with todays internet (10mbit band, 10ms latency) 5mb www page with 359 objects is loaded faster over the network as from local filesystem |
| 00:56 | mk01 | in most of my ARM devices I even don't have rootfs |
| 00:57 | mk01 | I wan't to say that (according to my experience) local storage media has much less significance than years ago |
| 00:58 | mk01 | or how important is bo=ot time if you your device is doing suspend & resume instead ? |
| 00:58 | mk01 | heew: if you have fast internet, I will give you xserver access |
| 00:59 | mk01 | to RPI on slow card, RPI on fast card |
| 00:59 | mk01 | CUBOX on slow, on fast. booted from NFS, or even sata raid0 doing 80mb/s |
| 01:00 | mk01 | heew then you can decide |
| 01:04 | Coburn | Raspberry Pi doesn't do accelerated X, does it? |
| 01:04 | mk01 | Coburn nope |
| 01:04 | Coburn | another thing is |
| 01:04 | mk01 | no accel |
| 01:04 | Coburn | suspend and resume is fine and dandy but it still uses power |
| 01:05 | Coburn | when you put a device to sleep, it needs power to refresh the RAM chips |
| 01:05 | heew | mk01 thats ok thanks though |
| 01:05 | Coburn | i found with NFS that my devices seemed to be throwing "NFS server X.X.X.X not responding! |
| 01:05 | mk01 | Cuborn: yes, but you are not making to sleep 5PT SAN solution with 100GB controler memory |
| 01:06 | mk01 | than something was broken |
| 01:06 | heap | funny thing is that there inst exist working deb/arch where xbmc works as on demand app |
| 01:07 | mk01 | heap: not for Cubox 1 |
| 01:07 | mk01 | but if you ask one more time, I will recompile XBian for you for Cubox1 |
| 01:07 | Coburn | I think he wants a disk image |
| 01:07 | mk01 | Yes, including |
| 01:08 | mk01 | .img |
| 01:08 | heap | xbian? |
| 01:08 | mk01 | you can then rename it to what ever you want |
| 01:09 | mk01 | ;) |
| 01:09 | heap | i mean whats xbian |
| 01:10 | Coburn | xbian |
| 01:10 | Coburn | XBMC Debian |
| 01:10 | mk01 | ok, will rephrase. I will then recompile XBMC for cubox1, will regenerate rootfs with Debian and put relevant kernel on it, ok? |
| 01:10 | Coburn | Means it's got XBMC pre-installed with a base Debian installation |
| 01:11 | heap | :) ah |
| 01:12 | mk01 | you can ask for ubuntu as well |
| 01:12 | heap | mk01: i just installed debian from cubox installer but its headless so no graphical out |
| 01:12 | Coburn | I'm tempted to make a dedicated server as a "oven" |
| 01:12 | heap | mk01: i want some stable os like arch/deb for NAS and run xbmc on demand |
| 01:14 | mk01 | heap: i told you, you are sad for so many hours already that I can't take it ... will do it :) |
| 01:14 | mk01 | if it is possible. is it Coburn? you had few dove boxes, haven't you ? |
| 01:15 | Coburn | I've had 2 cuboxes in my possession. |
| 01:15 | Coburn | A prototype CuBox and a retail CuBox |
| 01:15 | Coburn | The prototype is a ES sample. |
| 01:15 | Coburn | I was one of the few that got ES samples here in Australia. |
| 01:16 | Coburn | mk01: it is possible to run NAS and XMBC on demand |
| 01:17 | mk01 | I'm here strictly theoretic but I remember when I got Cubox-i that I was struggling but apparently Dove was running with accel gfx driver. At least according all the forums & sites. |
| 01:18 | mk01 | Coburn: yes, I know it is. the questins are going more to to the EGL support. |
| 01:18 | Coburn | yep |
| 01:18 | mk01 | ok, thanks |
| 01:19 | mk01 | is it armhf or not ? |
| 01:19 | heap | mk01: the cubox installer has armhf |
| 01:20 | heap | Linux debian-armhf-cubox 3.6.9-Debian+ #1 PREEMPT Thu Jan 3 19:38:21 CET 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux |
| 01:20 | mk01 | ok, which release you want ? |
| 01:20 | heap | mk01: i thought u are kidding |
| 01:20 | mk01 | wheezy , jessie , sid ? |
| 01:21 | heap | this one is 7.0 |
| 01:21 | mk01 | heap: nope. as it will run almost automatically, others packages I already have as armhf |
| 01:21 | mk01 | only will rebuild XBMC against different set of libs and .h files |
| 01:22 | mk01 | 7 is wheezy, latest stable, then there is jessie as WIP and sid as experimental |
| 01:23 | mk01 | ok, will put you jessie |
| 01:23 | heap | this one i have installed is wheezy |
| 01:24 | mk01 | as you wish. |
| 01:24 | heap | http://www.solid-run.com/mw/index.php?title=Debian_and_derivatives#Debian at the bottom they have section drivers for cubox.. but it doesnt work ;/ |
| 01:24 | heap | WIP? |
| 01:25 | heap | im getting confused |
| 01:25 | mk01 | it has a bit more actual actual packages - more today's |
| 01:25 | mk01 | ;)) |
| 01:25 | heap | The following packages have unmet dependencies: marvell-libgfx : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.15-0ubuntu8) but 2.13-38 is to be installed |
| 01:25 | heap | arght ;/ |
| 01:25 | mk01 | ok, I will be asking |
| 01:25 | mk01 | I will create the unage |
| 01:25 | heap | let me do upgrade |
| 01:27 | mk01 | add standard ubuntu repositories, but don't upgrade system, just let update packages |
| 01:27 | mk01 | and be carefull with linux-image, libc-bin-dev, xserver-xorg-video* and libmesa |
| 01:28 | heap | mk01: i did aptitude upgrade? |
| 01:28 | mk01 | as those will be conflicting probably |
| 01:28 | mk01 | then backup least uImage and /lib/modules before |
| 01:29 | mk01 | you start it |
| 01:29 | heap | yes |
| 01:29 | heap | how u want to update packages w/out upgrade? |
| 01:29 | mk01 | for XBMC you we will run custom kernel anyway (or the one from solidrun) |
| 01:30 | mk01 | what you have in /etc/apt/sources.list now ? |
| 01:30 | heap | deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy main |
| 01:30 | heap | deb http://download.solid-run.com/pub/solidrun/cubox/repo/debian cubox main |
| 01:30 | heap | deb-src http://download.solid-run.com/pub/solidrun/cubox/repo/debian cubox main |
| 01:30 | heap | thats it |
| 01:31 | mk01 | heh |
| 01:31 | mk01 | your image is debian, but cubox packages are for ubuntu |
| 01:32 | heap | this aptitude upgrade didint upgrade kernel, only libc6 libc-bin and few other |
| 01:32 | heap | for ubuntu? |
| 01:32 | mk01 | libc6 (>= 2.15-0ubuntu8) |
| 01:32 | mk01 | you copied this |
| 01:32 | heap | yes and im confused why |
| 01:33 | heap | because on solidrun wiki in deb section they links to those two repos as debian |
| 01:33 | heap | http://www.solid-run.com/mw/index.php?title=Debian_and_derivatives#Debian |
| 01:33 | heap | page bottom |
| 01:33 | mk01 | yes i know |
| 01:33 | mk01 | I checked it already |
| 01:34 | heap | so have any idea? |
| 01:34 | mk01 | anyhow for wheezy and ubuntu 12.04 you can criss-cross packages |
| 01:34 | heap | ah but yes, i did upgrade and its the same |
| 01:34 | mk01 | just install apt keys for automated apt runs. otherwise you get erriors or at least warn=ings |
| 01:35 | mk01 | wait, I will find the info. but actually you will keep all in sources.list |
| 01:35 | mk01 | you will add ubuntu 12.04 (it was called ubuntu precise?)\ |
| 01:35 | heap | aptitude versions libc6 |
| 01:35 | heap | Package libc6: |
| 01:35 | heap | i 2.13-38+deb7u1 |
| 01:36 | heap | The following packages have unmet dependencies: marvell-libgfx : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.15-0ubuntu8) but 2.13-38+deb7u1 is to be installed |
| 01:36 | heap | so upgrade doesnt help |
| 01:36 | heap | i didnt install keys |
| 01:36 | mk01 | because you didn't add the ubuntu repository |
| 01:36 | mk01 | wait a bit ;)( |
| 01:37 | heap | yeah now i see, solidrun repos were ignored |
| 01:40 | heap | there is missing this gpg key and so on ... |
| 01:40 | mk01 | add this to sources |
| 01:41 | mk01 | deb http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted universe multiverse |
| 01:41 | mk01 | deb http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security main restricted universe multiverse |
| 01:41 | mk01 | deb http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates main restricted universe multiverse |
| 01:42 | mk01 | instead the dots in host names put your country. so for instance: http://sk.archove.ubuntu.com/ubuntu |
| 01:42 | heap | ok |
| 01:42 | heap | but why this ubuntu? |
| 01:43 | mk01 | because this ubuntu is supported until 2017 |
| 01:43 | mk01 | and precise (12.04) was build from debian wheezy tree ! |
| 01:43 | heap | ah ok and what about those solidrun repos? |
| 01:44 | mk01 | so the packages are mutually exchangeable, only ubuntu was always few months ahead |
| 01:44 | mk01 | if you let me finish, we will come to that |
| 01:44 | mk01 | in two more sentences ;) |
| 01:45 | heap | got millions of errors after aptitude update |
| 01:45 | mk01 | what errors ? |
| 01:46 | heap | mostly |
| 01:46 | heap | Err http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com precise/main armhf Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 217.31.202.61 80] |
| 01:46 | mk01 | aha, kamarat z ciech |
| 01:46 | heap | W: Failed to fetch http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-armhf/Packages: 404 Not Found [IP: 217.31.202.61 80] |
| 01:47 | mk01 | then add "sk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu" |
| 01:47 | mk01 | I was brosing them minute ago |
| 04:17 | Whitepyro | mk01 you there? |
| 04:17 | Whitepyro | :| |
| 04:52 | aplund | I've been trying to merge the uboot from rabeeh's git into the uboot master. One of the issues is the mx6q_pins.h file is massively changed. The comment in the top of the file says that it is automatically generated, but doesn't say how that's done. Does anyone have any pointers? |
| 04:57 | guest_______ | hello all just curious are the android OS's on the Solid Run website the only OS's that the Cuboxi will run? |
| 07:41 | Coburn | someone didn't read the files |
| 08:18 | wbx | _rmk_: is there a method available to get your patches http://www.home.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/cubox/ via one wget command? --mirror does not work. |
| 08:29 | Xobs | wbx: I've taken to getting them via curl [URL] | cut -d'"' -f8 | grep patch |
| 09:41 | jnettlet | wbx, he provides a unified patch as well |
| 09:42 | jnettlet | it will be one directory up usually |
| 09:50 | wbx | jnettlet: ah. I overseen this in the morning, thx |
| 09:51 | jnettlet | wbx, np, enjoy |
| 13:30 | rabeeh | looks like i missed aplund |
| 13:44 | heap | rabeeh: is there any working package for debian arm (From cuboxinstaller?) |
| 14:00 | _505 | heap, you need an debian armel for the older cubox? |
| 14:01 | rabeeh | debian armhf is also supported |
| 14:01 | rabeeh | on the older cubox |
| 14:01 | _505 | see http://www.solid-run.com/mw/index.php?title=Squeezebox_music_system#Installation Not in the installer, but just extract to an SD card |
| 14:04 | heap | yes on the cubox1 |
| 14:05 | heap | _505: i dont wanna squeezebox, i wanna install of deb + xbmc |
| 14:05 | heap | which simply doesnt work, when i went thru www.solid-run.com/mw/index.php?title=Debian_armhf_server |
| 14:05 | heap | and this... www.solid-run.com/mw/index.php?title=Debian_and_derivatives#Debian |
| 14:06 | heap | because when i added solidrun repos into debian they were Ign, and another thing is there are broken dependecies when i wanted to install xbmc package, pointing to ubuntu packages... |
| 14:38 | _505 | the link I link to is a clean debian image, on which you can install anything, including, but not limited to squeezebox |
| 14:38 | _505 | but I think there is no XBMC package for debian for the cubox |
| 14:40 | _505 | according to this page (http://www.solid-run.com/mw/index.php?title=XBMC) only three distros have optimised xbmc packages: geexbox, arch, and xilka |
| 17:41 | chron0 | has anyone tried getting IR TX operational? |
| 17:41 | chron0 | I would really like to give the cubox control over a projector :) |
| 18:22 | ACSpike | I notice that some of the linux distro images available for cubox-i are a bit old. Does anyone know which distro has the newest avaible verion? |
| 18:27 | dv_ | the OE support is nice, because the freescale OE layer is actively maintained |
| 18:40 | jnettlet | dv_, you are such an OE pusher :-P |
| 18:40 | dv_ | hey, he asked for distros :P |
| 18:40 | jnettlet | hey man got some OE for you right here..first taste is free but you need to pay for the rest |
| 18:40 | dv_ | and frankly I use only this one, so thats the one I can mention |
| 18:41 | dv_ | MikeSeth is working on debian support, somebody else on arch |
| 18:42 | jnettlet | there was an offer for Fedora support the other day. |
| 18:42 | jnettlet | I will probably do that soon if nobody else steps up to the plate |
| 18:43 | mk01_ | ACSpike you can take XBian and disable autostarting of XBMC. then you get Debian jessie. |
| 18:48 | mk01_ | jnettlet: does not loose term "distribution" a bit the classic meaning in the lights of the system you was explaining yesterday ? |
| 18:50 | jnettlet | mk01_, well many people will still want packages specifically for their distro. I see Docker as a way to get mx6 optimized apps out to people faster and to support many niche distros |
| 18:51 | mk01_ | ah ok |
| 18:58 | jmontleon | _rmk_, you diff from 20140217 doesn't seem to build due to missing gpu/gal/Makefile (the whole dir is absent, but +obj-y += gal/) |
| 18:58 | jmontleon | is there something else needed? |
| 19:29 | jmontleon | other than that seems so far so good. still building so final verdict is out, but it's doing that much |
| 19:36 | _rmk_ | jmontleon: just kill that line |
| 19:37 | jmontleon | cool. That's what I did, it looks to be going better so far |
| 19:40 | _rmk_ | it's just an additional patch which leaked out which I sometimes build with |
| 19:40 | _rmk_ | that directory is a symlink into my dove cubox tree |
| 20:06 | ACSpike | Ok, thanks for the pointers. I think I want to try arch. My problem is that the only computer I have to plug the sd card into is a mac. Is that a non-starter? |
| 20:39 | heap | _505: archs xbmc package is broken |
| 20:40 | heap | mk01_: are u around? |