IRC log of #cubox of Mon 06 Oct 2014. All times are in CEST < Back to index

10:58 sferriol hi
11:07 R0nd hello
12:21 rabeeh hi
12:43 kgp Rabeeh ! Hi, how are you?
12:43 rabeeh hi kgp
12:43 kgp What's up? :)
12:43 rabeeh i'm doing good.
12:43 rabeeh a bit rusty on c++ (desiging qt)
12:43 rabeeh what about you?
12:44 kgp Doing many things... but focusing on our blood pressure product.
12:45 kgp It's easy to lose time on Android user interface :)
12:46 rabeeh hehe;; same here
12:46 rabeeh i'm designing some qt application
12:46 rabeeh (installer)
12:46 rabeeh actually i was looking for a name for it
12:46 rabeeh the purpose is too boot that installer and it will give a list you can choose and install from
12:47 rabeeh for the first CuBox it was called CuBox installer
12:47 rabeeh now i'm looking for different name.
12:47 rabeeh there ofcourse the CHI (CuBox-i HummingBoard Installer)
12:50 rabeeh kgp: if you are good in naming; then go ahead and try giving it a name :)
12:50 rabeeh everyone invited
12:55 Artox I'd probably call it AutoDeploy
12:55 Artox or OSFetcher
13:05 Artox now off I go, bye
14:12 cbxbiker61 I just tested a Kingston G4 usb3 card reader, very good performance, a Sandisk extreme plus rated for 80MB/sec tests out at about 85MB/sec
14:14 cbxbiker61 with iozone and large block sizes
14:49 rabeeh cbxbiker61: nice !
14:49 rabeeh i was getting high numbers too on HummingBoard (UHS-1 support)
14:49 rabeeh i can't recall exactly; but >> 50MB/sec
14:50 cbxbiker61 yeah, it's amazing the performance we can get out of micro-sd now
14:55 wrexem I still like my SSD :)
14:55 wrexem 110, 120MB/s
15:01 rabeeh SSD are better on writes too
15:02 rabeeh cbxbiker61: in terms of capacity i think within 1-2 years they will reach the half TB and probably afterwards beyond.
15:03 cbxbiker61 i find that 32G is a good usable size for most of my arm machines, large enough to support compiles
15:07 wrexem Oh, I was giving the speed in writes, yes.
15:45 sferriol hi
15:46 wrexem ahoy
18:27 cjori rabeeh: hey, did you have a chance to take a look at that pcie sata card? :P
18:29 rabeeh cjori: yes. didn't work for me
18:29 rabeeh needs debug
18:29 rabeeh :(
18:29 cjori :(
18:29 cjori yeah, I got a wifi pcie card, and that works okay with the humminigboard
18:30 cjori rabeeh do you think I should just buy another pcie sata card? Or are you positive about getting this thing working? :/
18:38 cjori rabeeh: btw, did you try that pin shortening trick you told me about? :P
18:46 Exaga malte :>
18:49 rabeeh cjori: yes.
18:50 rabeeh doesn't help :)
18:50 rabeeh well.. i must be something else
18:50 cjori :(
18:50 cjori I think I'll try buying another sata pcie adapter
18:50 Exaga :>
18:50 rabeeh cjori: are there any other?
18:51 cjori I really love the hummingboard, but it is really a deal breaker not having those two sata connections.
18:51 cjori rabeeh: yes: http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/PM1061.html
18:51 Exaga cjori: you want to run RAID?
18:51 cjori Exaga: no. just have my two 1TB HDDs connected
18:52 Exaga why do you need 2 drives?
18:52 cjori and have it function as a better-than-USB-connected nas
18:52 Exaga ah ok.
18:52 rabeeh ASmedia based
18:53 rabeeh cjori: where will you order from?
18:53 cjori I'm not sure. I have just found this one.
18:53 Exaga i was a high-precision engineer for 17 years of my life. i learned in that line of work that in order to get the best results you need the right tools for the job
18:54 Exaga cjori: I hope it's an i1 you're setting up as a NASbox :P
18:54 cjori Exaga: I guess you're not a fan of the hummingboard based NAS idea? :P
18:54 Exaga i love the hummingboard to bits <3
18:54 cjori it's an i2ex, but being a NAS is just one of the many roles it has!
18:54 Exaga i have an i2eX
18:55 Exaga the beauty of the hummingboard is that it can be anything you want it to be
18:55 malte Exaga :)
18:55 cjori Exaga: Exactly. That's why I love it so much. Too bad it still can't perform as a NAS for me :(
18:55 Exaga i always say "it's what the raspberry pi should have been" but then that's a little insulting to the hummingboard
18:56 cjori rabeeh: is that a bad or a good thing (being ASmedia based)?
18:56 Exaga no offence rabeeh :>
18:56 Exaga cjori: i see it as a tool with less limitations than other single board microcomputers
18:57 cjori couldn't agree more. it is really amazing
18:57 Exaga malte: o/ du hast ya 'ne macke? :D
18:57 cjori I also plan to use the msata port to connect an SSD and hopefully make it even faster
18:58 Exaga cjori: yeah just boot off the microsd and let the ssd do the rest
18:58 malte exaga: zhlob
18:58 cjori yeah
18:58 malte :)
18:58 Exaga malte: lol
18:59 Exaga cjori: my mission right now is building a slackware arm installer for the hummingboard
18:59 Exaga i already have slackware installed and running on it
18:59 cjori ooh nice
18:59 Exaga but not without errors
18:59 Exaga i need to allocate some time to compiling an appropriate kernel
19:01 cjori damn. can't find any place to buy that PM1061R mini pcie sata adapter :(
19:02 Exaga skyroveRR: http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/PM1061.html ?
19:02 Exaga err sorry i meant cjori LOL
19:02 Exaga see that url
19:02 Exaga is that it?
19:02 cjori Exaga: yes, but they don't seem to be store, do they? :/
19:02 Exaga amazon -
19:02 cjori oh, they are.
19:02 Exaga http://www.amazon.com/PM1061-SATA-Mini-PCIe-Adapter/dp/B00CF5Y8BK
19:03 cjori just very unintuitive interface
19:03 Exaga �48
19:03 cjori what. I just had that open on amazon, and it was sold out :O
19:03 Exaga i see 33 new and used items
19:03 cjori Exaga: Thanks :D will order now
19:04 Exaga cjori: no worries :>
19:04 cjor 19:04 * cjori wishing this one will work!
19:05 Exaga cjori: have you found a case/enclosure that will hold the i2ex ?
19:05 cjori not yet. I'm trying to get a 3D printed one, that will hopefully hold the two HDDs I want connected.
19:05 cjori with room for ventilation
19:07 Exaga the thing that's missing is a case for the hummingboards that have the mSATA socket underneath
19:07 Exaga the i1 and i2 fit raspi cases perfectly
19:07 Exaga but who wants to put a gorgeous hummingboard in a cheap raspi case? :D
19:09 cjori yeah, no way
19:18 rabeeh malte: i need a name for the installer :)
19:18 rabeeh actually: all :)
19:19 Exaga which installer rabeeh ?
19:19 malte rabeeh
19:19 malte i told you: rabeehs-little-maid
19:19 rabeeh lol
19:19 Exaga malte :>
19:19 rabeeh rlm
19:19 rabeeh Exaga: it's a tiny image that gets booted; loads from github a list of possible distro to install
19:19 cbxbiker61 Exaga, you should modify an existing 3-d print model for the r-pi and have it printed up
19:20 Exaga rabeeh: sounds great!
19:20 rabeeh once the user choose one it goes to the net, picks up an image and flashes it
19:20 rabeeh we had like this one ages ago called CuBox installer
19:20 Exaga rabeeh: so a name that's cool or fitting or abstract or ... ?
19:20 Exaga cbxbiker61: i wish i had the time my friend :P
19:21 malte i sent u a email rabeeh, but if ur mail account looks like your desktop....
19:21 malte :)
19:21 rabeeh a colleague of mine is thinking in a theme of feeding a humming bird with OS images :)
19:21 Exaga ahhh
19:21 Exaga hummingbirds love nectar and honey <3
19:21 rabeeh but then CuBox-i gets neglected here
19:22 Exaga hummingbox installer :P
19:22 rabeeh come one; you just saied nectar, honey and then hummingbox?
19:22 malte crap-sucker - the new solidrun installer
19:22 malte :)
19:22 rabeeh malte: jetlag?
19:23 malte hehe
19:23 Exaga lol rabeeh
19:23 malte abit
19:23 malte still one night is missing...
19:23 rabeeh i like nectar
19:23 malte dunno why the checking in tel aviv takes 2 hours
19:23 Exaga if it were me i'd name it after something powerful, maybe the name of a false god or force of nature
19:23 rabeeh only 2 hours?
19:23 malte hehe
19:24 malte 5 people has been before me
19:24 rabeeh Exaga: no forces here; only '0' and '1'
19:24 rabeeh :)
19:24 rabeeh i had Greek gods before
19:24 rabeeh Hercules, Neptune
19:24 rabeeh but they were not catchy enough
19:25 Exaga rabeeh: false gods :P
19:25 rabeeh really; the name should be catchy in means that it solves a problem for simple users
19:25 rabeeh it gets you an image to feed it to the board
19:25 Exaga well.. i laugh every time i see NOOBS for the raspberry pi HAHAHAHAH!
19:25 malte valet-i
19:25 Exaga new out of box software = NOOBS LOL!
19:25 malte i like the name rabeeh
19:25 rabeeh malte: sounds like car parking service
19:26 Exaga rabeeh: where did the name hummingboard come from?
19:26 rabee 19:26 * rabeeh criticizes a lot; so apologies for that
19:26 malte yes, i know - israelis always want something that sounds like german porns :)
19:26 rabeeh Exaga: from the nature of the bird itself
19:27 rabeeh fast, low energy and always on a move
19:27 Exaga rabeeh: i think the name is very damned cool
19:27 rabeeh well... the original name was suggest by a competition we had last year
19:27 Exaga modular-i
19:27 malte mymaid
19:28 Exaga frauhausen-i
19:28 rabeeh but then looking it up reveled this magnificent bird
19:28 Exaga rabeeh: it will not be long before i can type hummingboard in google and not get 10000000 pictures of birds on my screen
19:29 rabee 19:29 * rabeeh tries
19:29 Exaga rosetta-i
19:29 Exaga with a nod to the rosetta stone
19:30 Exaga bringing all ancient languages together
19:30 cbxbiker61 hydra
19:31 cbxbiker61 many headed...many uses
19:31 Exaga cerberus :P
19:31 rabeeh cbxbiker61: good one !
19:32 rabeeh i'v also had a silicon chip named Hydra
19:32 rabeeh 8 port SATA controller :)
19:32 Exaga i once had a chip called Denise
19:32 Exaga in an old CBM #Amiga
19:32 rabeeh CBM?
19:33 Exaga commodore business machines
19:33 rabeeh oh; damn
19:33 Exaga :P
19:33 rabeeh my first machine was Comodore 64
19:33 Exaga lovely piece of hardware for its day rabeeh
19:33 Exaga mine was a ZX81
19:34 cbxbiker61 trs model 1 in high school
19:34 Exaga lol cbxbiker61 i thought you might say PDP11
19:34 Exaga hahaha
19:34 Exaga or ALPHA-1
19:34 Exaga :D
19:34 bencoh haha
19:35 rabeeh i'v discovered my destiny after playing with the Comodore
19:35 Exaga rabeeh: then it served you well
19:35 bencoh :-)
19:35 Exaga i hate to admit most of my time on the C64 was writing games
19:36 malte rabeeh: fat balls
19:36 Exaga it wasn't until i had a PC that i became interested in hardware
19:36 cbxbiker61 most of us would probably agree that a lot of time was wasted on those early machines
19:36 malte or something with "worm"
19:36 malte that feeds the hummingbird/board
19:36 Exaga malte: that's a bit personal wouldn't you say? LOL!
19:37 malte heh
19:37 malte http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/Parus_caeruleus_5_Luc_Viatour.jpg
19:37 malte this are fat balls - u talk about something else :)
19:38 Exaga hahaha
19:38 Exag 19:38 * Exaga is saying nothing -,-
19:38 malte hehe
19:38 Exaga oh dear
19:39 Exaga i just thought... "cubox, hummingboard and installer" and came up with "Cumm-in-box"
19:39 malte hehe
19:40 malte someone is able to test the cubox/hummingboard to connect to a citrix / vmware server?
19:42 bencoh Exaga: :D
19:42 Exaga sorry malte mine's off at the moment
19:43 malte ok
19:43 Exaga i could fire it up with debian though
19:43 Exaga what are you testing?
19:44 malte a final image with different clients on it
19:44 Exaga it will work under vmware :P
19:45 malte Meanwhile ive create a first beta of Hummingboard thin Client, take a look at the screenshot in attach :)
19:45 malte Citrix 13.1, VMWare 2.3.4 (with pcoip), Cups Client for printing, Jre7 and more
19:45 Exaga vmware does not care what OS you connect with as long as the protocol is correct everything will work fine
19:46 malte if someone wants to test it.pm me:)
19:46 malte i cant
19:49 Exaga cjori: http://www.amazon.com/Syba-2-Port-SATA-PCI-Express-SD-MPE40056/dp/B009WN7QTE/ref=pd_cp_pc_0/191-6183043-9140700
19:50 Exaga another 2 port sata to mPCIe adapter
19:50 Exaga but it's full size :(
19:50 cjori Exaga: yeah, found that one earlier, but it is too big to fit the hummingboard as is, I'll need an adapter
19:50 Exaga yes only half-sixe on the humbo
19:50 cjori yeah, exactly. I hope not to go there :/
19:51 Exaga rabeeh: kingfisher-i
19:56 cbxbiker61 i've just put a dolby atmos ready receiver into use, time to start looking back into the high-def audio support with 3.14.x
19:56 Exag 19:56 * Exaga has never even heard of one of those :D
19:57 cbxbiker61 it's been in theaters for a while, but they're just starting to release blu-ray's with atmos
19:57 cbxbiker61 they say some pretty spectacular things about it
19:57 Exaga the hummingboard is a wonderful piece of kit and you can do so much more with it compared to some other single board microcomputers
19:58 Exaga hell, it will even run raspbian! HAHAHA
19:58 cbxbiker61 Anssi, have you had a chance to look at the audio code in 3.14.x?
20:00 cbxbiker61 atmos is carried in a true-hd stream, so it theoretically should be no easier or harder thatn true-hd
20:12 Exag 20:12 * Exaga is trying to discern which SSD to buy for the i2eX
20:12 rabeeh i'v been using Samsung lately
20:12 rabeeh low power
20:12 Exaga and they work as expected rabeeh ?
20:12 Exaga no quibbles ?
20:12 rabeeh yes
20:13 rabeeh 32GB max is 0.6A on 3.3v rail
20:13 Exaga excellent. thanks for the heads up
20:13 Exaga i like samsung
20:13 cbxbiker61 yes, samsung is awesome, 850's 10 yr warranty
20:14 Exaga rabeeh: what about designing a case for the carrier pro ? :P
20:15 Exaga YIKES! cbxbiker61 those 850s are $400 :O
20:16 cbxbiker61 yeah, i'd mostly go for the 850 if i needed to absolutely guarantee data
20:16 cbxbiker61 840's are good too
20:17 Exaga Done! imx6 kernel 3.14.14 and modules created ...
20:17 Exaga real 8m0.758s
20:17 Exaga user 4m37.920s
20:17 Exaga sys 1m10.030s
20:17 Exaga now that's what i call SPEED!!! :D
20:18 Exaga i'll be looking for an absolute maximum of 120GB cbxbiker61
20:18 Exaga but i will most likely end up with a 60GB SSD
20:19 Exaga but i'm going to have to find an enclosure first
20:20 cbxbiker61 maybe you could do a samsung msata in a case, it'd be small
20:21 Exaga just something to stop any damage if it bounces around my desk
20:22 Exaga i'd actually like a fan in there too because i find the i2eX gets pretty damned hot sometimes
20:22 Exaga especially when compiling for hours and hours
20:22 Exaga i've thought about getting hold of a 30mmx30mm fan and doing a bit of D.I.Y.
20:24 cbxbiker61 there's a r-pi case that has an upper and lower without sides that'd probably be a good match to the hummingboards
20:24 cbxbiker61 kinda cool looking too
20:24 Exaga well...
20:24 Exag 20:24 * Exaga sighs
20:24 cbxbiker61 top an bottom are translucent
20:24 Exaga for 2 years i have been heavily involved in developing for the raspi
20:26 Exaga i see the hummingboard as a vastly superior product in every way
20:27 cbxbiker61 i've got quite a few pi's rolled out and working fine, but yes the horsepower of the hb makes a huge difference
20:27 Exaga and do i really want to put a rolls-royce engine in a ford pickup ?
20:28 cbxbiker61 those open side pi cases are much better than the pi internals would warrant
20:29 Exaga well i have 5 raspi and i have needed tham all at one time or other
20:29 Exaga soon i hope to have 3 humbos
20:29 Exaga i1, i2 and i already have the i2eX
20:29 Exaga i might even go for a i4Pro if everything pans out fine
20:33 rabeeh Exaga: i checked with Artox deploying an OBS instance on HB-i4pro
20:33 rabeeh with SSD
20:33 rabeeh OBS === Open Build Service
20:34 Exaga rabeeh: what's Artox ? :>
20:34 rabeeh Artox ported opensuse to CBi/HB
20:34 Exaga oh! sorry :>
20:34 rabeeh (i think 3rd or 4th year computer science student)
20:35 rabeeh he is not around since he has a final exam in few days
20:35 rabeeh :)
20:35 Exaga neat. well i'm hoping to do the same with Slackware ARM Linux, rabeeh
20:36 rabeeh oh; you are hardcore linux user then
20:36 Exaga no no no lol
20:36 rabeeh btw - what about the name 'dynamo' for the installer?
20:36 Exaga good name
20:36 rabeeh or something that resembles first start
20:37 rabeeh cold engine humm?
20:37 Exaga ignition
20:37 rabeeh Exaga: are you a US? EU?
20:37 Exaga rabeeh: English my friend
20:37 rabeeh i wonder how ignition would sound on different non native English
20:38 rabeeh that's Analogue vs. Analog
20:38 Exaga rabeeh: I created and currently admin the slackware arm on a raspberry pi guide - rpi.fatdog.eu
20:38 rabeeh project dynamo
20:38 rabeeh project ignition
20:38 Exaga i plan to do somethig similar for the humbo
20:39 rabeeh slackware still builds from sources all the way?
20:39 Exaga the source is already compiled
20:39 Exaga it's not like gentoo that takes 5 months to build
20:39 rabeeh project hydra
20:40 Exaga operation hydra
20:40 Exaga hydra ignition
20:41 Exaga rabeeh: as i said earlier, I already have slackware arm installed and running on the i2eX
20:42 Exaga there's just a few bugs to work out and then i'll get around to building an installer
20:43 Exaga i don;t expect slackware to be anywhere near as popular as say, Debian or Arch on the hummingboard
20:45 rabeeh Exaga: my first Linux was slackware
20:45 Exaga <3
20:45 rabeeh installed it from 40 diskettes
20:45 rabeeh :)
20:46 Exaga i will not say what my first experience of linux was... you will surely shoot me for it
20:46 Exaga ut i've been using slackware now for approx. 10 years
20:47 rabeeh Exaga: can u share some rootfs?
20:47 rabeeh is it headless? fb? xorg?
20:48 Exaga 1 moment and i'll fire it up
20:49 cbxbiker61 i started with slackware, bought a slackware book with the cd in back...those were the days (of books)
20:50 Exaga root@humbo:~# uname -a
20:50 Exaga Linux humbo 3.14.14+ #3 SMP Mon Sep 29 21:23:27 UTC 2014 armv7l Freescale i.MX6 Quad/DualLite (Device Tree) GNU/Linux
20:50 Exaga cbxbiker61: i still have it
20:50 Exaga i have a few lol
20:50 cbxbiker61 that's cool
20:51 rabeeh \o/
20:51 Exaga i'm one of those fools who sees a book he hasn't got and buys it
20:51 Exaga just in case i need one word from one paragraph in it
20:51 Exaga rabeeh: i usually log in via SSH
20:52 rabeeh you can throw a console on /dev/ttymxc0
20:52 Exaga but i am doing so much testing with it i have everything connected
20:52 rabeeh typically 115200 8n1 is used
20:52 Exaga yeah i'm using console=tty1 right now
20:52 Exaga ttymxco boots to a blank screen
20:52 Exaga i can never work out why
20:53 Exaga bootargs console=tty1 consoleblank=0 raid=noautodetect rootfstype=ext4 rootwait root=/dev/mmcblk0p3 ro
20:54 Exaga these boot params are what i'm working with right now
20:54 Exaga but they need refinement
20:54 Exaga and i'm not logging in via serial, just SSH
20:55 Exaga when i need the console i just switch screens :P
20:59 rabeeh let me guess - /dev/mmcblk0p2 is swap?
20:59 Exaga you're right :>
20:59 Exaga Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
20:59 Exaga /dev/mmcblk0p1 * 2048 106496 52224+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
20:59 Exaga /dev/mmcblk0p2 106497 368641 131072+ 82 Linux swap
20:59 Exaga /dev/mmcblk0p3 368642 31268863 15450111 83 Linux
21:00 Exaga sorry if i'm flooding O.o
21:39 earthy grmz. why oh why will this etna-viv mesa tree not build...
21:43 earthy *ah*
21:52 rabeeh Exaga: is that you? http://www.solid-run.com/community/topic1734.html
21:52 rabeeh earthy: what are you trying to do?
21:53 rabeeh cross compile? native compile?
21:53 malte yes, its exaga, look at the signature
21:53 rabeeh what are the error messages?
21:53 malte :)
21:54 rabee 21:54 * rabeeh cross compiles qt4.8
21:54 earthy rabeeh: crosscompiling
21:54 earthy reading the config.log enlightened me
21:55 earthy I really should learn not to try hacking when overly tired, the simplest things pass by me
21:55 earthy (I had passed in the wrong shell variables)
22:00 Exaga rabeeh: i have missing modules :>
22:00 Exaga an error with udev
22:00 Exaga and many others
22:01 Exaga malte: i am not the owner of fatdog.eu :P
22:07 Exaga i now have udev working
22:07 Exaga and devtmpfs mounted
22:09 earthy hm. http://www.solid-run.com/archive/mw/index.php/Building_XBMC#Cross-Compiling_XBMC_for_Linux_on_Ubuntu is interesting... but seems outdated
22:10 Exaga rabeeh: any ideas about this one... [ 2.155974] rtc-pcf8523 0-0068: setting system clock to 2066-01-01 01:18:26 UTC (3029534306) ?
22:13 rabeeh Exaga: you need a battery for the HummingBoard to keep the date
22:13 rabeeh the RTC chip is on board (on the print side); but you need a battery - the white connector
22:13 Exaga i set the date via sntp at startup with a rc.local command
22:14 Exaga and i'm trying to find a battery for it - there's just so many different connectors and i'm not sure which one is correct
22:14 Exaga spoke to malte about it a few days ago
22:15 rabeeh there is one white only
22:15 Exaga it's one piece of information that's missing from the solid-run website
22:15 rabeeh the tiny one near the IR receiver
22:15 Exaga yes
22:15 rabeeh or USB connector
22:15 Exaga the battery backup connector next to the infrared receiver
22:15 Exaga the 2 pin connector (white)
22:57 kgp Sorry I was in a meeting :)