IRC log of #cubox of Wed 26 Sep 2012. All times are in CEST < Back to index

10:55 Thirsty hi
10:59 N30N How's it going?
11:02 Flooo hi
11:02 Flooo doing good. hbu?
11:03 N30N Not too bad. :)
11:05 rabeeh hi Thirsty
11:10 Thirsty good
11:10 Flooo I read in the forum about creating an own debian repo for cubox
11:11 Flooo I'd be interested to do so
11:12 Thirsty Me too
11:13 Flooo would be great to have kernel and drivers/X there for easy install
11:13 Thirsty and XBMC
11:15 Flooo and XBMC of course!
11:15 Flooo r u familiar with debian repos?
11:15 N30N You guys don't like Arch? :o
11:17 Flooo I think it has nothing to do with like or dislike arch :)
11:17 Thirsty N30N: I had some plans to change to Arch, but I didn't do it yet
11:19 Thirsty But do Arch have the items we want, like hard float, drivers and xbmc?
11:20 N30N All but xbmc, you need to compile that yourself
11:20 Thirsty I still have some partitions left on my cubox to test it.
11:20 Flooo even if arch has it, debian would be an advantage in my opinion
11:22 N30N Come on Thirsty, coming to the dark side. >:)
11:22 Flooo you have cookies?
11:24 dv505 I'd be interested in a Debian repo too
11:24 dv505 I tried it some time ago, but the X packages were the problem, especially dependecies and replacement for other packages
11:25 Flooo hi 505
11:25 dv505 in fact, I think my site for armhf packages is already a repo, although never really tested it
11:25 Flooo my problem were signatures for packages :/
11:25 dv505 can't we just skip that for now, focus on working packages and dependecies first?
11:26 dv505 dpkg-buildpackage has an argument to leave signatures out
11:28 Flooo I think I did that.. was some time ago.. then you always got the 'unsigned package' warnings.. but You're right other things are more important for now
11:29 dv505 maybe first focus on a armel repository, because we know that can work
11:30 Flooo what is missing on armhf? dove driver? does xbmc compile with hardfloat?
11:30 dv505 marvel-ipp, codecs for video drivers
11:30 Flooo ok
11:31 Flooo can u give ma a link to your site, pls?
11:31 dv505 and I never succeeded in compiling XBMC myself with the correct drivers on armhf, couldn't get hardware acceleration
11:31 dv505 http://server.vijge.net/static/cubox/
11:32 dv505 warning though, not sure every package is 100% correct
11:36 Flooo your packages have the ubuntu tag.. did you set correct dependencies for debian, too?
11:38 dv505 they are compiled on debian, and should work. most are just compile and repackage of the big drivers download archive rabeeh provided
11:38 dv505 and those are originally for ubuntu
11:41 Flooo did u cross-compile or on your cubox?
11:43 dv505 native on cubox. most packages are small, so they compile quite fast
11:45 Flooo ok.. a bit off-topic:
11:46 Flooo is there a way to run xbmc without X? on kms?
11:48 dv505 see https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/pull/454, although the idea is now dead it seems
11:52 Flooo what a pity :/ would be a great improvement on performance/mem footprint..
11:54 Flooo oh no. I think u got it wrong.. 'Much more interesting would be skipping the dfb layer and using mesa+kms directly.'
11:54 rabeeh Floo: i'm not sure bypassing X would add any performance
11:54 Flooo it says in the post
11:55 rabeeh i previously profiles XBMC, and haven't seen any X things going really high
11:56 rabeeh s/profiles/profiled
11:57 Flooo you may be right there, but it needs disk space and there are much unused X functions in RAM
11:57 Flooo making boot slower a.s.o.
11:57 rabeeh agree
12:03 Flooo rabeeh: how do you think about an debian repo?
12:13 rabeeh Flooo: debian is inferior on CuBox. still nothing solid there
12:13 rabeeh it only supports headless today.
12:14 rabeeh Flooo: probably Debian repo will never host a binary drivers.
12:15 Kiranos thirdparty debian repo could host it?
12:16 Kiranos that is a solid-run driven repo
12:16 Kiranos deb http://solid-run.com/apt/ squeeze main
12:16 Kiranos for example :)
12:16 Kiranos which host these files
12:17 rabeeh Kiranos: any idea if same repo can be shared between debian and ubuntu?
12:18 rabeeh i know there is distro naming differences, but probably the shared libs will differ.
12:20 Kiranos rabeeh: no I'm not sure but probably
12:21 Kiranos guess dependencies might be different though
12:21 Kiranos versions of the dependencies
12:21 suihkulokki rabeeh: it is usually possible if you use the libraries of the older distro
12:22 suihkulokki rabeeh: cases where it doesn't work is when there is a big abi break, like on xorg servers sometimes
12:23 Flooo thirdparty debian repo like Kiranos mentioned is what I meant
12:23 Flooo if we can build deb files there's just a little step to build ubuntu, too
12:25 Flooo In my opinion it is important to have debian, because ubuntu is based on it
12:27 Kiranos maybe have jenkins building the .deb packages for the repo, if that is the case it could build for different dists and versions automatically
12:27 Kiranos jenkins has options to export with scp for example to the repo
12:27 Kiranos and have a cronjob looking for new files
12:27 Kiranos in the ropo server
12:27 Kiranos repo
13:40 av_jui hi
13:40 av_jui For repositorie build there is a how to do http://debian.wgdd.de/howto/howto-aptrep.de.html
19:49 fser hey
19:50 fser after the "default ubuntu failure", I tried geexbox, which works a lot better, but for full hd movies, it's not perfect yet :-)
21:08 av_jui ping
21:10 rabeeh av_jui pong
21:11 av_jui hi rabeeh
21:11 av_jui my problem is not sloved have one other idea
21:12 av_jui have you one other idea
21:22 av_jui rabeeh?
21:22 av_jui CuBox ** LOADER ** U-Boot 2009.08 (Sep 20 2012 - 02:30:22) Marvell version: 5.4.4 NQ SR1 BootROM: Version on chip: 2.33 Status: OK Retries #: 0 Board: CuBox SoC: 88AP510 (A1) CPU: Marvell Sheeva (Rev 5) CPU @ 800Mhz, L2 @ 400Mhz DDR3 @ 400Mhz, TClock @ 166Mhz PEX 0: interface detected no Link. PEX 1: interface detected no Link. DRAM: 1 GB CS 0: base 0x00000000 size