#cubox irc log of Tue 09 Oct 2012

IRC log of #cubox of Tue 09 Oct 2012. All times are in CEST < Back to index

01:15 dung I thought KMS is only possible with DRI drivers

01:17 dung It's under DRI and disables their FB driver counterparts

02:49 dung dv505, do the Debian gtk images not work?

02:52 dung they should display over hdmi, if booted with dovefb in kernel and video bootarg

02:52 dung has anybody tried that?

07:07 jnettlet dung, technically KMS drivers have to implement DRI2. They can use an existing framebuffer driver, however due to the different IOCTL controls and style of coding of most framebuffer drivers this is not really feasible.

14:03 xxfog hey folks..

14:12 jnettlet I think folks may be a little generous, pretty quiet here so far today

14:13 xxfog like in the forum ;)

14:16 dv505 hi xxfog. It's not that bad, is it?

14:17 dv505 to understand, the LED on the front of the cubox is on, so it's not completely dead?

14:19 xxfog dv505: it is just dimmed and focusses as a really really small dot. Normally it is bright and bigger when the cubox was working correct

14:19 xxfog sorry for my bad english

14:20 dv505 no problem. so it was working before. do you know what changed? any upgrades, or boot commands changed?

14:21 jnettlet could possibly be a bad power supply as well

14:23 xxfog I used the new installer (i wrote that in two other topics in the forum) and tried to install geexbox (with the new uboot). Than i got several error while updating, the download did stop and nothing happend anymore.

14:24 dv505 what is your current status? Your message at http://www.solid-run.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=839#p4926 is a bit different from the one at http://www.solid-run.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=853#p4893

14:24 xxfog Than I added just hdmi, sdcard and power and the LED was dimmed. When I plugged in USB-stick also, the LED on the stick and the led on the cubox worked again and serial console showed output with the new uboot version numer sr1

14:24 xxfog I plugged off everything took the box and cables withme to my work, because I wanted to do the update here again, when i plugged in all cables nothing (than the dimmed LED) appears

14:26 xxfog the current status is: nothing happens and it does not metter if i plug in a sd, lan, hdmi, usb or whatever... In every case the LED just is small dotted and dimmed. like there is not enaugh voltage or something on the board has not enaugh power.

14:27 xxfog uboot does not work and no output via console is done.. no metter if i use windows putty or linux .. just a dead cubox with a really small iluminating LED (like terminator when he dies) ;-)

14:28 xxfog http://www.solid-run.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=853#p4893 is where i was on sunday evening and the other post is where i was when I plugged in the power cable next day :-(

14:28 dv505 like jnettlet, I would suggest to try a different power adapter. maybe that one broken

14:28 dv505 happened to me as well. I ended up buying a new one

14:29 jnettlet yeah, you may be getting the light led glow due to enough power being backloaded into the circuit by the hdmi port.

14:37 dung also, after kernel upgrade linux supports led dimming

14:40 xxfog jnettlet: even if i just put in the power cable (without the hdmi plugged in) it is dimmed. Could it happen that hdmi power and the normal power cable circuit and damaged the power adapter?

14:41 xxfog dung: therefor an output via serial should appear and that doesnt

14:41 xxfog I am goin to get a voltmeeter (will take some minutes) than I am back..

14:41 jnettlet xxfog, nope shouldn't cause a problem.

14:42 jnettlet good call

14:47 xxfog 5,25V :-(

14:48 xxfog thats what it should have I guess.

14:49 xxfog If the power adapter would be broken, I guess the green LED on it would naither run

14:52 xxfog So I am were I was before :-( and in my eyes it still looks like broken cubox

14:55 xxfog I really like the cubox even when I was able to install geexbox on it it was perfect to fit my wishes. But the problem is: I waited serveral month to get it, than I had to pay nearly 40 US$ to get it from the German Zoll and now it may be broken and for buying a new one (what maybe solves my problem) it is just to expensive :-(

14:58 xxfog What is the right procedere to reset the box? hold button and plugin power than or have the box powered on and just press it while box is running? Has the sd card and all other cables to be unplugged or plugged while resetting ?

15:00 dv505 maybe you could try the XBMC april 9 installer? That one will install U-Boot (now an older version), format an SD card, partition it, and install a distribution on it

15:00 dv505 might be a way to get back to a previous state

15:00 dv505 not sure if you can downgrade U-boot with that

15:05 xxfog hmm how should I "control" the installer if there happends nothing in the console and If the USBstick does not work (if it would work the LED on the stick should light up like before, bit that does not happen anymore)

15:06 xxfog rabeeh: I guess you could tell me what could be the "message" which belongs to the scenery of a dimmed LED on the cubox and no output in console (serial)

15:08 xxfog dv505: even if I put back the original SD card (which has become NO CHANGE) the effect is the same: nothing happens

15:13 dv505 but maybe there is something wrong with the bootloader, therefore I suggested the april9 installer

15:19 dv505 I think the procedure is to unplug the power cable, hold the reset button, and they connect the power cable, whilst holder the reset

15:20 dv505 holder->holding

15:20 xxfog okay dv505 that it one of the methods i tried to use the reset button without success I think.

15:21 xxfog Does the april9 loader need interaction via serial console? Than it can not work because the console shows nothing

15:23 dv505 no, you do not need the console for that. I can be completely automatic. just leave it for 10min, until the light starts flashing

15:28 xxfog do i have to unzip the file using linux? Or can I unzip and copy it on the fat32 usb-stick in windows too?

15:29 dv505 windows should be okay. you can format the usb stick as fat32

15:29 dv505 just make sure to keep all the folders, including the top boot folder

15:30 dv505 see http://www.solid-run.com/mw/index.php/XBMC_April-9_Installer, although the connect to console it not really needed

15:35 dung after reset, flash over serial!

15:37 dung when u-boot is bricked, you can't load anymore e.g. april9 installer

15:41 dv505 maybe try http://www.solid-run.com/mw/index.php/Flashing_U-Boot#MS_Windows then?

15:41 dung yep :)

15:44 xxfog cubox-xbmc-instaler-snapshot-090412-patch1.zip is what i downloaded now and put it on my 32gb stick right now. hope that the 32gb size does not make problems?

15:45 xxfog there is just one folder (when i unpack it) and I put this folder as it is on the stick keeping filesstrucure as it is

15:48 xxfog so in the root of the stick there is now the folder "boot" with the content inside

15:49 xxfog do I have to leave my micro sd inside ?

15:49 xxfog if so: has this sd to be unformatted ?

15:50 xxfog or can the "old" partitions be on it because the installer wipes it in every case?

15:52 dv505 from what I remember (and the wiki), the SD card will be erased

15:52 dv505 it will also repartition

15:54 xxfog okay, LAN, USBSTICK, sdcard, serial and powercord plugged in right now. the front LED is still just dimmed. the lan led flashes in high speed.

15:54 xxfog time to get coffee ;)

15:55 xxfog what still makes me not feel really good is, that the LED of my usbstick does not light up at all, seems that no data reading from stick

15:56 dv505 yeah, strange. if nothing works, try flashing over serial like dung suggested

15:56 dv505 but I never done that, so can't really help you with that

16:01 xxfog thank your for your help and the tipps you gave me right now..

16:02 xxfog i wait 3 more minutes if nothing changes than i try the other method. terraterm is installed and the bin file on my harddisk already

16:13 xxfog so dv505 and dung I did it via terraterm right now. The upload of the file started as mentioned in the wiki

16:13 xxfog direktly after the upload endet i pressed enter (serveral times) in the terminal window bit it is still the same. nothing appears in the terminal window

16:14 xxfog some of the basics (serial link and file upload) seems to work, but thats it. the uboot does not boot anymore

16:16 xxfog Wooooooow! Wait ;-)

16:18 xxfog I unplugged power, reinsterted the usb stick and the lan cable, and powered it back again, now the LED in FRONT is light up really like it should be, the LED of the stick is light up and blinking several times like "data-reading" and the console shows me some output!

16:19 xxfog Loading file "/boot.scr" from usb device 0:1 usbda1 Failed to mount ext2 filesystem... ** Bad ext4 partition or disk - usb 0:1 ** ===> Executing ext4load usb 1:1 0x02000000 /boot.scr ** Bad partition 1 ** ===> Executing fatload usb 0:1 0x02000000 /boot.scr reading /boot.scr . ** Unable to read "/boot.scr" from usb 0:1 ** ===> Executing fatload usb 1:1 0x02000000 /boot.scr ** Can't read from device 1 **

16:22 dv505 great, now at least U-boot is back to normal. try unpacking something like geexbox to the card and try to boot

16:22 dv505 maybe best to partition and unpack on another computer, so you don't touch u-boot again

16:27 xxfog dv505: something that i want to know for sure now, because there are different files which say diffenrent things:

16:28 xxfog has the boot partition to be ext2 or ext4 now (because of the ext4 support of the new uboot and has it to be set to 100 or 200MByte now?

16:29 xxfog I think I have to use 200MB ext2 with bootflag as partitions 1 and the rest as a ext4 right?

16:30 dv505 the new uboot support ext2,3,4, the old one only ext2,3. so using ext2 as boot partition is safe

16:30 dv505 size does not really matter. in a default setup, the files on the boot partition are only a few MB

16:31 dv505 but it's more the case if you develop and want to have multiple kernels. then a larger boot partition is an advantage

16:31 dv505 but to be safe, ext2 200mb, rest ext4 is okay

16:36 xxfog where is the "like" button? ;-) thank you for beeing so patiend ;) I will now copie the geebox 3 via another PC and another cardreader on a knoppix linux

16:37 Punkley_Chillin :)

16:39 dv505 no problem. maybe add a post on the forum with the solution? it seems some others have the same problem

16:40 Punkley_Chillin or add it to the wiki

16:48 xxfog I will! ;-)

16:49 xxfog just added a "first" answer to my post in forum and than when I get geexbox 3 working again, i will write the wiki..

16:49 xxfog maybe not today, bit than tomorrow

16:49 xxfog one last question

16:50 xxfog do i have to copy the "boot" folder from the tar-gz file as a folder to boot partition or do i just have to copy the files out of boot-folder in the root of the boot partition?

16:51 dv505 doesn't really matter, but I would recommend to place the files directly on the first partition, not in the boot folder

16:52 xxfog okay, i wasn`t sure for that. so all times before i did booth ;-) copied the files directly to root and the whole boot directory too :-(

16:52 dv505 that way, on the system you can mount the boot partition to /boot on the second partition

16:53 xxfog I am glad that the terminal appears right now. that`s half work done.. downloading geebox right now and than i will see what happens...

16:53 xxfog is the "old" sd card (shipped with the cubox) compatible with the new uboot?

16:54 xxfog normally the box should start with it doesn`t it?

16:56 dv505 SD card is not affected by U-Boot, so yes it's compatible. just repartition

16:59 xxfog hmmmmmmmmmm booting with the geexbox 3 sd card ends in dimmed led and a Bootstrap 2.33> in console :-(

17:04 dv505 maybe contact marconn, from the forum thread it appears that was solved (http://www.solid-run.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=742&start=20#p4856)

17:21 xxfog well i have to go home now, i will test it again tomorrow

17:21 xxfog thank your your the patience and great help

17:21 xxfog bye

01:15	dung	I thought KMS is only possible with DRI drivers
01:17	dung	It's under DRI and disables their FB driver counterparts
02:49	dung	dv505, do the Debian gtk images not work?
02:52	dung	they should display over hdmi, if booted with dovefb in kernel and video bootarg
02:52	dung	has anybody tried that?
07:07	jnettlet	dung, technically KMS drivers have to implement DRI2. They can use an existing framebuffer driver, however due to the different IOCTL controls and style of coding of most framebuffer drivers this is not really feasible.
14:03	xxfog	hey folks..
14:12	jnettlet	I think folks may be a little generous, pretty quiet here so far today
14:13	xxfog	like in the forum ;)
14:16	dv505	hi xxfog. It's not that bad, is it?
14:17	dv505	to understand, the LED on the front of the cubox is on, so it's not completely dead?
14:19	xxfog	dv505: it is just dimmed and focusses as a really really small dot. Normally it is bright and bigger when the cubox was working correct
14:19	xxfog	sorry for my bad english
14:20	dv505	no problem. so it was working before. do you know what changed? any upgrades, or boot commands changed?
14:21	jnettlet	could possibly be a bad power supply as well
14:23	xxfog	I used the new installer (i wrote that in two other topics in the forum) and tried to install geexbox (with the new uboot). Than i got several error while updating, the download did stop and nothing happend anymore.
14:24	dv505	what is your current status? Your message at http://www.solid-run.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=839#p4926 is a bit different from the one at http://www.solid-run.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=853#p4893
14:24	xxfog	Than I added just hdmi, sdcard and power and the LED was dimmed. When I plugged in USB-stick also, the LED on the stick and the led on the cubox worked again and serial console showed output with the new uboot version numer sr1
14:24	xxfog	I plugged off everything took the box and cables withme to my work, because I wanted to do the update here again, when i plugged in all cables nothing (than the dimmed LED) appears
14:26	xxfog	the current status is: nothing happens and it does not metter if i plug in a sd, lan, hdmi, usb or whatever... In every case the LED just is small dotted and dimmed. like there is not enaugh voltage or something on the board has not enaugh power.
14:27	xxfog	uboot does not work and no output via console is done.. no metter if i use windows putty or linux .. just a dead cubox with a really small iluminating LED (like terminator when he dies) ;-)
14:28	xxfog	http://www.solid-run.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=853#p4893 is where i was on sunday evening and the other post is where i was when I plugged in the power cable next day :-(
14:28	dv505	like jnettlet, I would suggest to try a different power adapter. maybe that one broken
14:28	dv505	happened to me as well. I ended up buying a new one
14:29	jnettlet	yeah, you may be getting the light led glow due to enough power being backloaded into the circuit by the hdmi port.
14:37	dung	also, after kernel upgrade linux supports led dimming
14:40	xxfog	jnettlet: even if i just put in the power cable (without the hdmi plugged in) it is dimmed. Could it happen that hdmi power and the normal power cable circuit and damaged the power adapter?
14:41	xxfog	dung: therefor an output via serial should appear and that doesnt
14:41	xxfog	I am goin to get a voltmeeter (will take some minutes) than I am back..
14:41	jnettlet	xxfog, nope shouldn't cause a problem.
14:42	jnettlet	good call
14:47	xxfog	5,25V :-(
14:48	xxfog	thats what it should have I guess.
14:49	xxfog	If the power adapter would be broken, I guess the green LED on it would naither run
14:52	xxfog	So I am were I was before :-( and in my eyes it still looks like broken cubox
14:55	xxfog	I really like the cubox even when I was able to install geexbox on it it was perfect to fit my wishes. But the problem is: I waited serveral month to get it, than I had to pay nearly 40 US$ to get it from the German Zoll and now it may be broken and for buying a new one (what maybe solves my problem) it is just to expensive :-(
14:58	xxfog	What is the right procedere to reset the box? hold button and plugin power than or have the box powered on and just press it while box is running? Has the sd card and all other cables to be unplugged or plugged while resetting ?
15:00	dv505	maybe you could try the XBMC april 9 installer? That one will install U-Boot (now an older version), format an SD card, partition it, and install a distribution on it
15:00	dv505	might be a way to get back to a previous state
15:00	dv505	not sure if you can downgrade U-boot with that
15:05	xxfog	hmm how should I "control" the installer if there happends nothing in the console and If the USBstick does not work (if it would work the LED on the stick should light up like before, bit that does not happen anymore)
15:06	xxfog	rabeeh: I guess you could tell me what could be the "message" which belongs to the scenery of a dimmed LED on the cubox and no output in console (serial)
15:08	xxfog	dv505: even if I put back the original SD card (which has become NO CHANGE) the effect is the same: nothing happens
15:13	dv505	but maybe there is something wrong with the bootloader, therefore I suggested the april9 installer
15:19	dv505	I think the procedure is to unplug the power cable, hold the reset button, and they connect the power cable, whilst holder the reset
15:20	dv505	holder->holding
15:20	xxfog	okay dv505 that it one of the methods i tried to use the reset button without success I think.
15:21	xxfog	Does the april9 loader need interaction via serial console? Than it can not work because the console shows nothing
15:23	dv505	no, you do not need the console for that. I can be completely automatic. just leave it for 10min, until the light starts flashing
15:28	xxfog	do i have to unzip the file using linux? Or can I unzip and copy it on the fat32 usb-stick in windows too?
15:29	dv505	windows should be okay. you can format the usb stick as fat32
15:29	dv505	just make sure to keep all the folders, including the top boot folder
15:30	dv505	see http://www.solid-run.com/mw/index.php/XBMC_April-9_Installer, although the connect to console it not really needed
15:35	dung	after reset, flash over serial!
15:37	dung	when u-boot is bricked, you can't load anymore e.g. april9 installer
15:41	dv505	maybe try http://www.solid-run.com/mw/index.php/Flashing_U-Boot#MS_Windows then?
15:41	dung	yep :)
15:44	xxfog	cubox-xbmc-instaler-snapshot-090412-patch1.zip is what i downloaded now and put it on my 32gb stick right now. hope that the 32gb size does not make problems?
15:45	xxfog	there is just one folder (when i unpack it) and I put this folder as it is on the stick keeping filesstrucure as it is
15:48	xxfog	so in the root of the stick there is now the folder "boot" with the content inside
15:49	xxfog	do I have to leave my micro sd inside ?
15:49	xxfog	if so: has this sd to be unformatted ?
15:50	xxfog	or can the "old" partitions be on it because the installer wipes it in every case?
15:52	dv505	from what I remember (and the wiki), the SD card will be erased
15:52	dv505	it will also repartition
15:54	xxfog	okay, LAN, USBSTICK, sdcard, serial and powercord plugged in right now. the front LED is still just dimmed. the lan led flashes in high speed.
15:54	xxfog	time to get coffee ;)
15:55	xxfog	what still makes me not feel really good is, that the LED of my usbstick does not light up at all, seems that no data reading from stick
15:56	dv505	yeah, strange. if nothing works, try flashing over serial like dung suggested
15:56	dv505	but I never done that, so can't really help you with that
16:01	xxfog	thank your for your help and the tipps you gave me right now..
16:02	xxfog	i wait 3 more minutes if nothing changes than i try the other method. terraterm is installed and the bin file on my harddisk already
16:13	xxfog	so dv505 and dung I did it via terraterm right now. The upload of the file started as mentioned in the wiki
16:13	xxfog	direktly after the upload endet i pressed enter (serveral times) in the terminal window bit it is still the same. nothing appears in the terminal window
16:14	xxfog	some of the basics (serial link and file upload) seems to work, but thats it. the uboot does not boot anymore
16:16	xxfog	Wooooooow! Wait ;-)
16:18	xxfog	I unplugged power, reinsterted the usb stick and the lan cable, and powered it back again, now the LED in FRONT is light up really like it should be, the LED of the stick is light up and blinking several times like "data-reading" and the console shows me some output!
16:19	xxfog	Loading file "/boot.scr" from usb device 0:1 usbda1 Failed to mount ext2 filesystem... Bad ext4 partition or disk - usb 0:1 ===> Executing ext4load usb 1:1 0x02000000 /boot.scr Bad partition 1 ===> Executing fatload usb 0:1 0x02000000 /boot.scr reading /boot.scr . Unable to read "/boot.scr" from usb 0:1 ===> Executing fatload usb 1:1 0x02000000 /boot.scr Can't read from device 1
16:22	dv505	great, now at least U-boot is back to normal. try unpacking something like geexbox to the card and try to boot
16:22	dv505	maybe best to partition and unpack on another computer, so you don't touch u-boot again
16:27	xxfog	dv505: something that i want to know for sure now, because there are different files which say diffenrent things:
16:28	xxfog	has the boot partition to be ext2 or ext4 now (because of the ext4 support of the new uboot and has it to be set to 100 or 200MByte now?
16:29	xxfog	I think I have to use 200MB ext2 with bootflag as partitions 1 and the rest as a ext4 right?
16:30	dv505	the new uboot support ext2,3,4, the old one only ext2,3. so using ext2 as boot partition is safe
16:30	dv505	size does not really matter. in a default setup, the files on the boot partition are only a few MB
16:31	dv505	but it's more the case if you develop and want to have multiple kernels. then a larger boot partition is an advantage
16:31	dv505	but to be safe, ext2 200mb, rest ext4 is okay
16:36	xxfog	where is the "like" button? ;-) thank you for beeing so patiend ;) I will now copie the geebox 3 via another PC and another cardreader on a knoppix linux
16:37	Punkley_Chillin	:)
16:39	dv505	no problem. maybe add a post on the forum with the solution? it seems some others have the same problem
16:40	Punkley_Chillin	or add it to the wiki
16:48	xxfog	I will! ;-)
16:49	xxfog	just added a "first" answer to my post in forum and than when I get geexbox 3 working again, i will write the wiki..
16:49	xxfog	maybe not today, bit than tomorrow
16:49	xxfog	one last question
16:50	xxfog	do i have to copy the "boot" folder from the tar-gz file as a folder to boot partition or do i just have to copy the files out of boot-folder in the root of the boot partition?
16:51	dv505	doesn't really matter, but I would recommend to place the files directly on the first partition, not in the boot folder
16:52	xxfog	okay, i wasn`t sure for that. so all times before i did booth ;-) copied the files directly to root and the whole boot directory too :-(
16:52	dv505	that way, on the system you can mount the boot partition to /boot on the second partition
16:53	xxfog	I am glad that the terminal appears right now. that`s half work done.. downloading geebox right now and than i will see what happens...
16:53	xxfog	is the "old" sd card (shipped with the cubox) compatible with the new uboot?
16:54	xxfog	normally the box should start with it doesn`t it?
16:56	dv505	SD card is not affected by U-Boot, so yes it's compatible. just repartition
16:59	xxfog	hmmmmmmmmmm booting with the geexbox 3 sd card ends in dimmed led and a Bootstrap 2.33> in console :-(
17:04	dv505	maybe contact marconn, from the forum thread it appears that was solved (http://www.solid-run.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=742&start=20#p4856)
17:21	xxfog	well i have to go home now, i will test it again tomorrow
17:21	xxfog	thank your your the patience and great help
17:21	xxfog	bye