| 12:10 | dotarray | so quiet :) |
| 12:45 | rabee | 12:45 * rabeeh agrees. |
| 12:45 | rabeeh | has been quite around |
| 12:49 | jomaster | i have tested geexbox during the last days. the performance is pretty good. much more fluent then with ubuntu+xbmc. |
| 12:50 | jomaster | are there similar improvments on ubuntu+xbmc, arch or xilka? |
| 12:51 | jomaster | movie quality of hd streams is not hd but not to bad. for such a system more then i ahd expected. |
| 12:54 | ralix | I'm still waiting for the "Archlinux arm systemd hard float" release of pepedog. My current Archlinux xbmc (HF) from the git going well. |
| 12:56 | ralix | In the afternoon i will try the lattest geebox snapshot. |
| 12:57 | ralix | my favorit remains archlinux;-) |
| 13:06 | jomaster | what about performance of xbmc and movies? do you get full hd resolution for movies? |
| 13:07 | jomaster | in geexbox some older codecs seem to don't work. (maybe missing hardware acceleration for them) |
| 13:08 | N30N | jomaster: I think the only really difference in performace is whether you use gstreamer (ubuntu) or native vmeta. |
| 13:09 | N30N | *real* |
| 13:12 | rabeeh | jomaster: which geexbox are you trying? |
| 13:12 | rabeeh | the latest builds from tomlohave can do bluray for me |
| 13:13 | rabeeh | there are still audio issues (i think buggy audio driver for stereo) and the pass through mode is still not there. |
| 13:15 | jnettlet | rabeeh, how ya doing? |
| 13:16 | rabeeh | jnettlet: hey |
| 13:16 | rabeeh | great :) |
| 13:16 | jnettlet | wow very enthusiastic today. |
| 13:16 | jnettlet | you obviously aren't fighting with mmp3 hdmi like me :-( |
| 13:16 | rabeeh | hehe. |
| 13:16 | rabeeh | i had my fights for this week. |
| 13:17 | jnettle | 13:17 * jnettlet hopes you won |
| 13:17 | rabeeh | today i'm just gathering the pieces |
| 13:17 | rabeeh | I WON :) |
| 13:17 | jnettle | 13:17 * jnettlet cheers |
| 13:18 | rabee | 13:18 * rabeeh raises toast |
| 13:18 | jomaster | @rabeeh: geexbox-3.0.cubox |
| 13:19 | dotarray | hooray! |
| 13:19 | rabeeh | jomaster - is that from the installer? or the devel |
| 13:19 | rabee | 13:19 * rabeeh invites everyone on #cubox to victory party |
| 13:20 | rabeeh | jnettlet: i'm looking at the posts about BRCM opening the gpu drivers. |
| 13:20 | jomaster | don't know what's in the installer. i use http://download.geexbox.org/releases/3.0/ and installed it by hand. |
| 13:20 | rabeeh | http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2221#comment-35023 |
| 13:20 | jnettlet | rabeeh, well kind of |
| 13:20 | rabeeh | this too - |
| 13:20 | rabeeh | http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2221#comment-35078 |
| 13:20 | rabeeh | :) |
| 13:20 | jomaster | i don't have any sound problems on geexbox and hdmi |
| 13:21 | jnettlet | the 3d command stuff is all done in the binary "firmware" |
| 13:21 | jomaster | also a external soundcard worked but didn't tried it in detail |
| 13:21 | rabeeh | jomaster: on the main menu there is ~1 second delay between keyboard click and sound |
| 13:22 | jomaster | ah yes |
| 13:22 | jomaster | i disabled the click sound |
| 13:22 | rabeeh | jomaster: please try this - http://download.geexbox.org/snapshots/geexbox-xbmc-armada5xx-cubox/ |
| 13:23 | jomaster | should be meaybe cached |
| 13:23 | jnettlet | rabeeh, really the new broadcom driver is about as open as the vivante driver. The difference being broadcom stuffed everything into a firmware with an open api, vs vivante using closed libraries with an open api. |
| 13:24 | rabeeh | jomaster: it's not; it's different build - only for testing. after you install try overdriving vmeta to 667MHz (under settings - video ...) |
| 13:24 | jnettlet | rabeeh, you are running vmeta at 667?!! |
| 13:24 | rabeeh | jnettlet: no. there is a much more bigger difference. BRCM and RPi know public relations much more than MRVL :) |
| 13:25 | rabeeh | they are really fantastic in this. |
| 13:25 | rabee | 13:25 * rabeeh applauses :) |
| 13:25 | jnettlet | fair enough. They are trying |
| 13:25 | rabeeh | jnettlet: yea; i overdrive vmeta for bluray decoding |
| 13:25 | dotarray | we're getting better at public relations :) |
| 13:25 | rabeeh | it's pretty stable for me; i'm sending this over for people to test stability. but works for me. |
| 13:26 | jnettlet | rabeeh, which pll are your clocking it off pll1? |
| 13:26 | rabeeh | oh; sorry dotarray |
| 13:26 | dotarray | :P |
| 13:26 | rabeeh | didn't mean that. but all they do is public relations. all we did was engineering and now with you we want to balance :) |
| 13:26 | dotarray | tough job ahead of me! |
| 13:27 | rabeeh | jnettlet: it's south bridge 2GHz divided by 4 (500MHz) as default and 3 (667MHz) as over drive. |
| 13:27 | dotarray | and no offense taken. they're very good at what they do - now we need to be just as good! :) |
| 13:27 | dotarray | (our product is better, so we have the advantage) |
| 13:27 | jnettlet | rabeeh, of course. |
| 13:30 | ralix | 720p works fine, 1080p the first few minutes are going well, then it stutters. I hope it gets better with the recent devel release (geebox). Sorry I'm working on and my english is quite bad ;-) |
| 13:31 | rabeeh | ralix: please try the latest drops. there are two major things - |
| 13:31 | rabeeh | 1. queuing of vmeta frames. the original code from gimli decodes a single frame at a time. now we queue first up to 20 frames and then start viewing. |
| 13:31 | rabeeh | 2. vmete overdrive to 667MHz |
| 13:32 | rabeeh | the first one has a slight artifact that in first 1-2 seconds of the content it might stutter. |
| 13:32 | ralix | At the morning i installed from "http://download.geexbox.org/snapshots/geexbox-xbmc-armada5xx-cubox/latest/binaries.cubox/geexbox-devel-20121025-r15279.cubox.tar.bz2". After my work i will try it :) |
| 13:33 | N30N | rabeeh: 667MHz safe/recomended? |
| 13:33 | rabeeh | N30N: for now 'works for me (TM)' |
| 13:33 | rabeeh | it won't kill your silicon, since it will slightly warm the chip |
| 13:34 | rabeeh | worst case it will hang and then stopping and starting the movie back again will revive it (vmeta gets power shutdown and power up few tens of times a second). |
| 13:34 | rabeeh | so potentially every shutdown and power up is actually a reset to the vmeta |
| 13:35 | rabeeh | N30N: i'm really waiting for more and more testers for the over drive; if it's stable then we can enable it by default. |
| 13:35 | rabeeh | for now i'm missing the 65c oven testing for vmeta |
| 13:35 | ralix | rabeeh: that sounds great! |
| 13:35 | rabeeh | (i.e. we overclock, put worst case scenario from power point of view and heat up the system and observe) |
| 13:36 | rabeeh | we do heating via a special heating oven equipment that can be temperature controlled. |
| 14:04 | dung | Happy party :) btw what's RPC called from OpenGL? Role Playing Character? Just a joke |
| 14:07 | jnettlet | dung, it means we don' get to play with the GLES hardware commands, |
| 14:08 | Punkley_Chillin | rabeeh we call that testing, living in Australia :) |
| 14:09 | dotarra | 14:09 * dotarray hands rabeeh a pie to put into the special heating oven |
| 14:09 | Punkley_Chillin | 45 celsius outside, does it still work....yes cooling is working |
| 14:14 | rabee | 14:14 * rabeeh takes a bite :) |
| 14:14 | Punkley_Chilli | 14:14 * Punkley_Chillin hands dotarray a Lamington |
| 14:17 | dotarray | lamingtonnnnnn |
| 14:18 | rabeeh | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamington |
| 14:18 | rabeeh | looks yummy |
| 14:18 | Punkley_Chillin | tastes yummy |
| 14:19 | dotarray | oh so now i want one. and it's nearly 11pm. |
| 14:20 | jnettlet | reminds me of my time in Melbourne |
| 14:20 | dotarray | we were in melbourne over the weekend! |
| 14:20 | jnettlet | fun city. Very laid back |
| 14:20 | dotarray | absolutely. |
| 14:21 | dotarray | Punkley_Chillin and i are in adelaide, it's pretty much the same but not as trendy ;) |
| 14:21 | jnettlet | haha...cool. Yeah the guys I worked with in Melbourne used to make fun of Adelaide :-P |
| 14:22 | dotarray | yeah i was just thinking i hope nobody from melbourne saw that comparison ;) |
| 14:22 | dotarray | most places in australia make fun of adelaide :( |
| 14:22 | dotarray | except maybe perth. |
| 14:26 | Punkley_Chillin | melbourne mistakes crappy, and falling apart, for cool and trendy |
| 14:28 | dotarray | that's a conversation for another time (and maybe another place). |
| 14:28 | dotarray | jnettlet - i'd love to stay and talk about Australia, but, unfortunately, it's time for me to get some sleep. |
| 14:28 | jnettlet | dotarray, no worries. Catch you another time. |