| 05:11 | ralix | morning |
| 05:11 | dotarray | good morning ralix :) |
| 05:12 | ralix | Also you a nice good morning. how are you? |
| 05:12 | dotarray | a little tired. |
| 05:12 | dotarray | i was up later than usual last night working on the new solidrun website :) |
| 05:14 | ralix | I'm tired, I did not sleep well;-) |
| 05:14 | dotarray | cup of tea will help, maybe :) |
| 05:15 | ralix | Oh I just checked out this very nice! |
| 05:15 | ralix | I will prefer to first drink a large coffee. |
| 05:15 | dotarray | that's probably more effective :) |
| 05:16 | ralix | hehe yep |
| 05:16 | dotarray | i think i'm one of the few people who work in this industry who doesn't drink coffee :( |
| 05:16 | ralix | I think so too :) |
| 05:18 | ralix | I drink but lately a lot more tea when I'm at work. Too much coffee is not good. |
| 06:13 | dotarra | 06:13 * dotarray pokes www.solid-run.com |
| 09:32 | rabeeh | yawniek: try now reading from that tmpfs |
| 09:32 | rabeeh | yawniek: once you have optimized numbers, please consider posting on the forums. |
| 10:17 | yawniek | rabeeh: will do again tonight, but roughly i got around 400mbit for reading/writing via samba, which is ok i guess |
| 10:17 | yawniek | it will get interesting once i stuff 4 disks into that craddle and make a raid. |
| 10:18 | yawniek | still whats unclear to me, which crypto algos are supported via hardware and how can i check if they are used |
| 10:19 | rabeeh | des/3des/aes and few others |
| 10:19 | rabeeh | you can check the specs of the chip online (specs are open source) |
| 10:53 | RandomPixels | hello |
| 10:55 | dotarray | hello! |
| 11:29 | RandomPixels | i hava a crappy issue with my cubox |
| 11:29 | dotarray | what's wrong with it? |
| 11:29 | RandomPixels | it just won't boot without having an hdmi cable plugged in it |
| 11:29 | dotarray | that's odd. |
| 11:29 | RandomPixels | i'm using the ubuntu sd card which came bundled |
| 11:31 | dotarray | hm. |
| 11:31 | RandomPixels | or |
| 11:31 | RandomPixels | it might be the lack of keyboard |
| 11:31 | RandomPixels | (i have kb and hdmi plugged in and booted) |
| 11:37 | dv505 | it should be able to boot headless. best would be to boot with only the serial connection, and watch for any strange messages |
| 11:37 | rabeeh | RandomPixels: look at the wiki page how to set serial port connection, boot the box without HDMI and keyboard and send us dump |
| 11:38 | RandomPixels | will do soon |
| 11:38 | RandomPixels | thank you! |
| 11:38 | RandomPixels | and congrats rabeeh on the project, it's a nifty gadget |
| 11:40 | rabeeh | thanks |
| 11:43 | RandomPixels | i'm also trying to configure a psyBNC on it, or something similar, but i keep running into errors. has anyone done it successfully? if so, what server has been used ? |
| 11:43 | RandomPixels | (so far tried psybnc and dircproxy) |
| 12:31 | RandomPixels | works, w00t! :) |
| 12:32 | rabeeh | great :)\ |
| 12:36 | RandomPixels | also installed psyBNC similar package called shroudBNC |
| 12:37 | RandomPixels | needs 'build-essential' package installed first |
| 12:37 | RandomPixels | (if anyone needs it) |
| 12:45 | RandomPixels | next step, installing a counter-strike 1.6 server, is anyone interested if possible ? |
| 12:46 | dotarray | i was just talking to Punkley_Chillin about whether or not cubox would run steam when it's launched for linux. |
| 12:46 | dotarray | he told me that until cubox has an intel chipset, i'll have to stick to the pc :) |
| 12:47 | RandomPixels | i presume that creating a cubox with intel chipset would require some kind of licensing from intel which costs a lot |
| 12:47 | dotarray | yeah i don't think it's likely to happen in a hurry. |
| 12:48 | RandomPixels | i really like my cubox, but sometimes it's annoying the lack of x86 architecture |
| 12:48 | dotarray | the other side of that might be to chat to our friends at valve and get them to support arm :) |
| 12:49 | RandomPixels | especially when finding that the package that you need doesn't support arm |
| 12:49 | dotarray | plenty of decent stuff does, of course, but i know what you mean. |
| 12:49 | RandomPixels | heh, that would be something.. which is kind of possible with all tablets and smartphones getting more and more popular |
| 12:49 | RandomPixels | lemme calculate smth :) |
| 12:50 | RandomPixels | i have 3 x86-x64 devices in my house and 5 arm devices |
| 12:50 | RandomPixels | soooo, talking about popularity |
| 12:50 | Coolgeek | an intel chip is not good (in my opinion) for the cubox. It will need more power and need a fan too |
| 12:50 | dotarray | that's pretty impressive :) |
| 12:50 | Coolgeek | juste to have the same as a pc |
| 12:51 | dotarray | Coolgeek - it wasn't a serious suggestion :) |
| 12:51 | dotarray | more that it would be pretty great to run hd video games on a tiny cube :) |
| 12:51 | RandomPixels | Coolgeek, not necessary, if it's gonna be intel, most definitely will be a low-voltage Atom |
| 12:51 | Coolgee | 12:51 * Coolgeek get trolled |
| 12:51 | Coolgeek | :( |
| 12:51 | dotarray | nooo, not trolled! |
| 12:51 | RandomPixels | CuBoXeon hehe |
| 12:52 | dotarray | i work a lot with video games, so i was trying to work out what the cubox was capable of. |
| 12:52 | Coolgeek | RandomPixels: but without hardware decode like the cubox and other arm chip have |
| 12:53 | RandomPixels | i think all stuff that runs on android could be ported to the cubox |
| 12:53 | dotarray | yeah, my next quest is to figure out a useful way of controlling it. |
| 12:54 | RandomPixels | and i say ported, because even if they work out-of-the-box, control would be crappy |
| 12:54 | RandomPixels | dotarray, possibilites are unlimited |
| 12:54 | dotarray | phones and tablets all have control schemes kinda built in, whether it's keyboards or touch screens. |
| 12:54 | dotarray | so i'm thinking about getting a touchscreen to play with :) |
| 12:54 | RandomPixels | cubox+kinect would be a nice touch |
| 12:54 | dotarray | wouldn't it! |
| 12:54 | dotarra | 12:54 * dotarray adds that one to the list |
| 12:54 | RandomPixels | :) |
| 12:56 | RandomPixels | or voice control |
| 12:56 | dotarray | i can't believe i hadn't really thought about that. |
| 12:56 | RandomPixels | but people hate voice control |
| 12:56 | dotarray | i think voice control has its place. |
| 12:56 | dotarray | if you are american, it's very useful. |
| 12:56 | RandomPixels | bicoz mi spokeen inglish iz crep |
| 12:56 | dotarray | if you "have an accent" then you're out of luck. |
| 12:56 | RandomPixels | my point exactly |
| 12:56 | Coolgeek | voice control is not accurate enough to use it daily |
| 12:57 | dotarray | i'm australian :) |
| 12:57 | dotarray | i know people in california who use it every day. |
| 12:57 | dotarray | walk into the room, "xbox, play movie" |
| 12:57 | dotarray | one friend in particular doesn't know where his remote is any more :) |
| 12:57 | RandomPixels | i use it with siri on my phone, i get a 50/50 success. it works or it doesnt :) |
| 12:57 | Coolgeek | it need an external server to analyse your voice |
| 12:59 | RandomPixels | anyway, i think i'll give my cubox to a friend for a couple of weeks |
| 12:59 | RandomPixels | wants to try to use it as live sound processing unit |
| 12:59 | dotarray | oh! |
| 13:00 | dotarray | please keep us posted about how that works, it sounds like something that could be very interesting. |
| 13:00 | RandomPixels | yep, hopefully doesn't get into the same problem as i always do |
| 13:00 | dotarray | which one is that? |
| 13:01 | RandomPixels | Package 'somethingveryfamous' has no installation candidate |
| 13:01 | dotarray | ahh. |
| 13:01 | dotarray | yeah. |
| 13:02 | dotarray | i'll do you a deal, RandomPixels! |
| 13:03 | dotarray | if you keep me posted about your experiments and your friend's successes with sound processing, i'll let you know what i find out about kinect ;) |
| 13:05 | jnettlet | These guys are doing a voice control computer. http://theubi.com/ |
| 13:06 | dotarray | ooooooh! |
| 13:07 | RandomPixels | [01:36:29.983] Couldn't read "/home/cubox/.config/user-dirs.dirs": Permission denied |
| 13:07 | RandomPixels | [ OK ] |
| 13:07 | RandomPixels | Segmentation fault |
| 13:07 | RandomPixels | lovely :( |
| 13:07 | rabeeh | ? |
| 13:07 | RandomPixels | trying to install something via apt-get |
| 13:07 | dotarray | thank you, jnettlet :) |
| 13:08 | RandomPixels | the strange part is that it installed successfully :) |
| 13:08 | jnettlet | dotarray, no worries. remembered reading about it last week. |
| 13:09 | rabeeh | is that the shipped Ubuntu? |
| 13:10 | rabeeh | seems like the one from /home/cubox/.config |
| 13:13 | RandomPixels | yes, is the shipped ubuntu |
| 14:37 | N30N | yawniek: I've made a pull request to add cryptodev support. Once it's added you'll just need to do the following: http://archlinuxarm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2452 |
| 14:42 | yawniek | N30N: awesome! |
| 20:47 | rabeeh | hi captainigloo |
| 20:47 | rabeeh | i just saw your email |
| 20:47 | captainigloo | rabeeh: hi! fine |
| 20:53 | captainigloo | rabeeh: i'm finally taking the time to replug my cubox :P |
| 20:56 | rabeeh | great :) |
| 20:56 | rabeeh | lots of things changed from last time you have tried it |
| 20:56 | rabeeh | on hardfp side; we have the GPU and vmeta drivers set |
| 20:57 | rabeeh | will Enna be available in the future as a media player? |
| 20:57 | captainigloo | yes |
| 20:57 | captainigloo | but not with the current code |
| 20:57 | captainigloo | we are rewriting it |
| 20:57 | captainigloo | from scratch and with another concept in mind |
| 20:58 | rabeeh | i love the simplicity in Enna |
| 20:58 | rmull | rabeeh: Are the gpu/vmeta drivers the ones linked on the wiki? |
| 20:58 | rabeeh | rmull: yes |
| 20:59 | rmull | Okay, thanks |
| 20:59 | rabeeh | GeexBox are happily using them today |
| 20:59 | rmull | It's hard to follow the versioning of everything |
| 20:59 | rmull | There aren't really numbers - sometimes things are called "new" but then when they are replaced, what will they be called? |
| 20:59 | rmull | Is there anyway the cubox software can be better maintained+ |
| 20:59 | rabeeh | things haven't changed a while on those drivers |
| 21:00 | rabeeh | for the GPU, the new, newest or whatever you call it is r3184 |
| 21:00 | rabeeh | everything else was wiped since it's really obsolete and meaningless to maintain |
| 21:02 | rabeeh | rmull: one of the things that needs to be maintained is .deb files for those |
| 21:02 | rmull | rabeeh: I'm not interested in deb files |
| 21:02 | rabeeh | i'm willing to host on download.solid-run.com the .deb files hardfp / softp for Debian / Ubuntu or whatever |
| 21:02 | rmull | I'm interested in consistent names and version numbers. For example, I have a file called marvell-opengl-hardfp-debug.zip |
| 21:02 | rabeeh | rmull: i know you are the Arch guy |
| 21:03 | rmull | Inside is a dir called gc3184-1-mgcc462hd-d |
| 21:03 | rmull | Is that somehow different than the gc3184-gcc-4.6-armv7-hard_release found inside marvell-opengl-hardfp-new-headers.zip? |
| 21:03 | rmull | Both say gc3184 |
| 21:03 | rmull | rabeeh: I'm not arch, but I'm doing something close to what arch is doing with their PKGBUILD |
| 21:03 | rabeeh | ok |
| 21:03 | rmull | I'm just trying to maintain build scripts and dependency tracking |
| 21:04 | rmull | for the distro called CRUX |
| 21:04 | rmull | So at the moment I'm just looking at Arch's PKGBUILDs |
| 21:04 | rmull | But as a general suggestion I just feel like all these files could be managed a little better, that's all |
| 21:04 | rabeeh | right. sorry - CRUX |
| 21:04 | rabeeh | are you referring to this - |
| 21:04 | rabeeh | http://download.solid-run.com/pub/solidrun/cubox/packages/marvell-opengl/ |
| 21:05 | rmull | Yes |
| 21:08 | rabeeh | those are different builds for the exact same version 3184 |
| 21:08 | rabeeh | hardfp and softfp in generral |
| 21:11 | rabeeh | and each has debug, profiler enabled and light |
| 21:11 | rabeeh | so total 6 versions that are only binaries (depends hardfp/softfp and debug, profile and light) |
| 21:11 | rabeeh | and there is one that includes the headers to build Xorg and other stuff against. |
| 21:12 | rabeeh | what should i document more? |
| 21:12 | rabeeh | i can add more details either on the FTP site or on the wiki |
| 21:13 | rmull | Hmm |
| 21:13 | rmull | Are the older versions kept around for download anymore? |
| 21:13 | rabeeh | there is the original old one (i can't even recall it's version) - |
| 21:14 | rabeeh | http://www.solid-run.com/mw/index.php/Downloads |
| 21:14 | rabeeh | look at Elder |
| 21:14 | rmull | Those are all gc3184, though, which is current, right? |
| 21:14 | rabeeh | oops. they are the same |
| 21:14 | rabeeh | yes. sorry |
| 21:14 | rmull | Hmm |
| 21:14 | rabeeh | that was only the old link |
| 21:15 | rabeeh | do you want them? |
| 21:15 | rabeeh | rmull: btw - do you have a working rootfs + kernel image? |
| 21:16 | rabeeh | i can add those to the installer if you want |
| 21:16 | rmull | rabeeh: Yes, I have those, but I'd probably want to check in with the distro maintainers to get their approval. I only maintain the cubox-specific ports overlay and kernel stuff. |
| 21:17 | rabeeh | ok. fair enough |
| 21:17 | rmull | Also for installation I'd probably follow their supported procedures instead of using the solidrun one |
| 21:17 | rmull | Which is sort of backwards, I guess, but it makes sense that the distro should want their work to be useful across a variety of devices |
| 21:18 | rmull | Anyway, there's a version bump coming up soon that I hope to be ready for. Maybe by then I'll have it all figured out and can integrate with the solidrun installer (I haven't looked into how it works yet) |
| 21:18 | rabeeh | i understand this; but on the other hand users don't want to mess with every distro and it's own tweaks. |
| 21:18 | rabeeh | in my mind, one installer rules them all, is better approach since it's really choose the distro; hit enter and it's there |
| 21:18 | rmull | Some users do - for example, I run crux on my x86 and x86_64 machines, and I like and and enjoy having a consistent experience |
| 21:19 | rabeeh | rmull: but that's because you are deep in crux; take most of the users on this channel; i bet with you that sometime they want Debian |
| 21:19 | rabeeh | the other day Crux, and then Arch |
| 21:20 | rmull | Perhaps. I support crux because crux embodies the ideals that I support |
| 21:20 | rabeeh | then there are the more speciality like XilkaX for XBMC etc... |
| 21:21 | rmull | I'll have to learn more about the solidrun installer. I'm usually nervous around things that do a lot of things that aren't made clear to me ahead of time |
| 21:21 | rabeeh | ok. it's my fault that it's not really documented |
| 21:22 | rmull | It will come in time |
| 21:22 | rmull | For now my priority is getting the cubox-specific stuff working on my cubox running crux |
| 21:22 | rmull | I'm using Thirsty's kernel, btw. What's your opinion on that? |
| 21:23 | rmull | Is that discouraged, since it isn't "official?" |
| 21:23 | rabeeh | let me give you an example of implementation for GeexBox installer - |
| 21:23 | rabeeh | http://download.geexbox.org/binaries/cubox/install-geexbox |
| 21:24 | rabeeh | the installer calls that script and most of the things like partitioining is done by the installer scripts |
| 21:24 | rmull | Looks pretty straightforward - is the end installer meant to edit this script? |
| 21:25 | rabeeh | so the installer downloads from the net a file called dist.list; which includes all distros available for CuBox |
| 21:25 | rabeeh | one of them is GeexBox that points to this file that is hosted on GeexBox site |
| 21:25 | rmull | Wait! Before you tell me this, you should put it on the wiki so you don't have to repeat it :P |
| 21:25 | rabeeh | :) |
| 21:25 | rabeeh | aaargh |
| 21:25 | rabeeh | you are right. |
| 21:26 | rmull | It's good information |
| 21:26 | rabeeh | i'll do that and send a link |
| 21:26 | rmull | Sounds good |
| 21:38 | rabeeh | http://www.solid-run.com/mw/index.php/CuBox_Installer_Developer_Page |
| 21:39 | rabee | 21:39 * rabeeh offers a cup of tea to dotarray |
| 21:39 | dotarray | thank you rabeeh! |
| 21:40 | dotarray | that page makes more sense now :) |
| 21:40 | rabeeh | rmull: please let me know if more details needs to be added. |
| 21:45 | rmull | rabeeh: I appreciate the work, thanks very much |
| 22:01 | yawniek | +1 from me aswell for the wiki page :). btw: i didnt used the installer aswell, i straight went to the archlinuxarm site and the installation there was so short and obvious that it would have be more work to use the cubox installer |
| 22:02 | yawniek | and thanks for pointing me to crux. |
| 22:06 | rmull | crux support is not quite there yet :P |
| 22:08 | rabeeh | yawniek: once rmull gets us rootfs+kernel and added to the installer; you would know that there is crux once you run the installer :) |
| 22:09 | rabeeh | i think there is lots of great work already done on CuBox; but people don't know all of those since it's scattered all around. |
| 22:12 | yawniek | rabeeh: as my cubox was sleeping for some time in my cuboard and only now i started to set it up, what was missing was a decent page where it says what works in which distro |
| 22:12 | yawniek | especially concerning binary drivers |
| 22:25 | rabeeh | yawniek: how do you suggest we improve this? |
| 22:26 | rabeeh | is it rewriting the main page in the wiki? |
| 22:27 | yawniek | one thing that would help is having an indicator how "fresh" and "well maintained" the ports are and if HF or soft. that could be on the main page |
| 22:29 | dotarray | i like that idea :) |
| 22:30 | yawniek | also, since you marked developers and abviously freaks you could aswell link to different distributions from the various applications pages |
| 22:31 | yawniek | e.g. if you want to have a nice xbmc setup try DistX first, for a nas maybe use Y as a base |
| 22:45 | yawniek | in general my rough interaction with the site was: found a ref to cubox somewhere on the web. came to sr.com, see pic, searched specs, then checked |
| 22:45 | yawniek | distros, browse the forum a bit -> bought |
| 22:46 | yawniek | but i have no clue who your customers are |
| 22:59 | yawniek | lol the ideas subforum has some weird stuff |