|  02:03  |  dung  |   cuisine  | 
|  02:03  |  dung  |   is this an english word?  | 
|  02:04  |  dung  |   and the only word in english for.. that?  | 
|  02:05  |  rmull  |   dung: It's used in english pretty frequently to refer to fine dining  | 
|  02:05  |  dung  |   i would say someting with culture  | 
|  02:06  |  rmull  |   Yes, for example, "Mexican cuisine" refers to mexican food  | 
|  02:06  |  dung  |   we call it "Esskultur"  | 
|  02:07  |  dung  |   that would be eating vs cooking  | 
|  02:07  |  dung  |   hi rmull  | 
|  02:08  |  rmull  |   hi dung  | 
|  02:10  |  dung  |   fine mexican :)  | 
|  02:11  |  rmull  |   it's a french word, so maybe that's a bad example :P  | 
|  02:16  |  dung  |   i'm about to create a db with all i can find about cooking, food ...  | 
|  02:16  |  dung  |   *all i got to know  | 
|  02:17  |  shesselba  |   dung: esskultur is "food culture", mexican cuisine is "mexikanische kueche"  | 
|  02:18  |  dung  |   oh master shesselba :)  | 
|  02:20  |  dung  |   but food culture refers to mine as culture of growing food, more than cooking  | 
|  02:23  |  dung  |   and i meant the best of i've learned about that, not what i could find  | 
|  02:25  |  shesselba  |   well, hit google .. gastronomic culture is another translation  | 
|  02:25  |  dung  |   i did right now.. once again  | 
|  02:28  |  dung  |   first: Getreide, Mehl, Stärke  | 
|  02:28  |  dung  |   Teigtascherl  | 
|  02:31  |  dung  |   Stärke vs Balast  | 
|  02:31  |  dung  |   Butter  | 
|  02:31  |  dung  |   Fett  | 
|  02:38  |  dung  |   the db shall calculate the energy  | 
|  02:38  |  dung  |   *from  | 
|  02:39  |  dung  |   after recipe  | 
|  02:45  |  dung  |   you'll hardly find fine food culture as tourist  | 
|  02:49  |  dung  |   my grandmother is dead  | 
|  02:53  |  dung  |   long ago  | 
|  02:53  |  dung  |   my beard's getting silver  | 
|  02:55  |  dung  |   but my mouth..  | 
|  03:24  |  dung  |   if i master this kind of daily life, i call myself master of shit :P  | 
|  03:24  |  dung  |   in the end  | 
|  03:29  |  dung  |   the energy of 1k cow is comparable to driving through europe  | 
|  03:30  |  dung  |   ~2k  | 
|  03:34  |  Coburn  |   good afternoon  | 
|  03:41  |  dung  |   the energy one cow consumes is more than driving around the globe a few times. that's not compareable to energy it gives as food  | 
|  03:41  |  dung  |   *less  | 
|  04:17  |  Coburn  |   oh joy, random statements  | 
|  04:24  |  dung  |   you can't read nor write - it's you're turn  | 
|  05:06  |  Cobur  |  05:06  * Coburn writes 8 bytes to /dev/random.  | 
|  05:06  |  Coburn  |   It's dung's turn.  | 
|  05:06  |  Coburn  |   wait  | 
|  05:07  |  Coburn  |   ./dev/null that should've been  | 
|  05:31  |  Transhumanist  |   Can CuBox run Xfce?  | 
|  05:32  |  Transhumanist  |   Or does it come with an existing graphics environment?  | 
|  05:38  |  cbxbiker61  |   Transumanist, I'm sure it can...xfce is pretty simple  | 
|  05:58  |  Coburn  |   Transhumanist: it can run anything  | 
|  05:59  |  Coburn  |   just install a kernel with galcore  | 
|  05:59  |  Coburn  |   also, cbxbiker61, are you the one that does the automatic kernel builds  | 
|  05:59  |  Transhumanist  |   Can't just plug in a live CD of Ubuntu and Bob's my uncle, then? ;)  | 
|  05:59  |  Transhumanist  |   *live USB  | 
|  05:59  |  Coburn  |   lol  | 
|  05:59  |  Coburn  |   it's a little... more involved than that  | 
|  05:59  |  Coburn  |   the Cubox ships with Ubuntu  | 
|  06:00  |  Coburn  |   on a 4GB USD  | 
|  06:00  |  Coburn  |   USD = MicroSD  | 
|  06:00  |  Transhumanist  |   With Unity, KDE, headless, or...?  | 
|  06:07  |  ralix  |   morning  | 
|  06:09  |  cbxbiker61  |   Coburn, yes i have kernels available on xilka.com  | 
|  06:10  |  Coburn  |   yeah  | 
|  06:10  |  Coburn  |   but you leave out things  | 
|  06:10  |  Coburn  |   one kernel you had had no gpio leds  | 
|  06:10  |  Coburn  |   and no vmeta drivers  | 
|  06:10  |  Coburn  |   I guess I shouldn't complain, since I can roll my own  | 
|  06:11  |  Coburn  |   Yours seem more for ... headless boxes  | 
|  06:11  |  cbxbiker61  |   you must be thinking of someone else, all of my kernels have vmeta...  | 
|  06:11  |  Coburn  |   scratch that  | 
|  06:11  |  Coburn  |   but I remember your kernel didn't have led support  | 
|  06:11  |  cbxbiker61  |   yeah someone else is doing headless stuff, mainly because we're stuck at 3.5.x for vmeta  | 
|  06:12  |  Coburn  |   dbsx did a kernel for headless-ness but he left it with like 16MB for the vmeta stuff or something since it was glitchy without it  | 
|  06:12  |  Coburn  |   anyway  | 
|  06:13  |  cbxbiker61  |   i'm refreshing my cubox/xilka now, it's been a while, kde is pretty darn solid, i picked up a few fixes that will make a dedicate xbmc box work better  | 
|  06:13  |  Coburn  |   sweet  | 
|  06:14  |  Coburn  |   at the moment, rabeeh's kernel makes xbmc around 19fps ish on 1080p  | 
|  06:14  |  Coburn  |   that's gui  | 
|  06:14  |  Coburn  |   so if we can get it above 30 where it's not choppy, that'll be great  | 
|  06:14  |  Coburn  |   again, I gotta recompile the kernel of rabeeh, I bet he's updted it  | 
|  07:05  |  dbsx  |   biker: there is shesselba kernel, rabeeh kernel and your kernel. Do you incorporate rabeeh and shesselba kernel patches ? and do you have any patches that they do not?  | 
|  07:12  |  cbxbiker61  |   initially i diffed a stock kernel with rabeeh's kernel to get my initial patch  | 
|  07:13  |  cbxbiker61  |   shesselba may have something i do not, i haven't really looked his stuff over  | 
|  07:14  |  cbxbiker61  |   maybe it what shesselba that got the framebuffer working better, i know someone did something to get the framebuffer to work before x starts  | 
|  07:15  |  cbxbiker61  |   i need to get the framebuffer fix, and i need to patch the audio driver name to spdif, other than that i think everyone is pretty close to the same code  | 
|  07:16  |  cbxbiker61  |   my kernels are patched to work with the latest video code from marvell  | 
|  07:18  |  dbsx  |   biker: Thanks, I was dreaming of one kernel with all fixes. One more question, do you have the mv_cesa stuff all sorted?  | 
|  07:19  |  cbxbiker61  |   refresh my memory, what was the latest problem with mv_cesa?  | 
|  07:20  |  cbxbiker61  |   that diagonal line? ... i don't have a fix for that  | 
|  07:22  |  dbsx  |   Not sure of the mv_cesa status (my memory fails), I believe it was mostly working but that there were various issues with openssl and an available feature that was not implemented. I would need to search forum.  | 
|  07:23  |  cbxbiker61  |   well my kernel's all behave nicely with hardware crypt  | 
|  07:23  |  cbxbiker61  |   they pass all of the openssl tests  | 
|  07:23  |  dbsx  |   cool, I will download and see how it goes. I will report back.  | 
|  07:37  |  dbsx  |   one last question biker: does linux-3.5-CuBox.patch incorporate all of your partches?  | 
|  07:45  |  cbxbiker61  |   	local patches35cubox='linux-3.5-CuBox.patch linux-3.5-kirkwood-orion_uart0_init.patch linux-3.5-ZSMalloc-ZCache-arm.patch 201-bump-galcore-to-3184.patch 202-bump-galcore-to-3184-1.patch linux-3.0-SDIO-micro-AP.patch linux-3.0.4-LIBERTAS-WEXT_PRIV.patch 0003-Initial-defconfig.patch sheeva-3-leds.patch 0002-8688-SDIO-micro-AP-suppo-3.2.patch linux-3.5.7-remove-skb-recycling.patch'  | 
|  07:45  |  cbxbiker61  |   that the full list in order  | 
|  07:51  |  dbsx  |   thank you very much biker  | 
|  07:57  |  dbsx  |   biker: (last of the last questions) do you have the patch at http://www.solid-run.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=910  | 
|  08:21  |  ralix  |   morning again...  | 
|  09:46  |  Thirsty  |   exit  | 
|  15:02  |  ascent  |   Howdy!  | 
|  15:02  |  ascent  |   So, apart from the 2GB RAM vs 1GB RAM, are the cubox and the cubox pro the same when comparing specs?  | 
|  15:10  |  rabeeh  |   ascent: yes. identical except the memory size  | 
|  15:10  |  ascent  |   okay.  | 
|  15:10  |  ascent  |   thanks rabeeh  | 
|  15:11  |  rabeeh  |   np :)  | 
|  15:11  |  ascent  |   You have one, I guess"?  | 
|  15:12  |  rabeeh  |   i have both.  | 
|  15:12  |  rabeeh  |   i'm from SolidRun  | 
|  15:12  |  ascent  |   Do you notice difference in 1080p playback smoothness?  | 
|  15:13  |  ascent  |   Oh, okay, good :-)  | 
|  15:13  |  rabeeh  |   for xbmc?  | 
|  15:13  |  rabeeh  |   it should really matter; xbmc uses half of the 1GB system anyways  | 
|  15:13  |  ascent  |   I saw the Cubox at a friends place and it had some problems with 1080p playback. 720 worked fine but 1080p seemed to be a bit laggy  | 
|  15:13  |  rabeeh  |   different applications like image processing will require the 2GB  | 
|  15:13  |  ascent  |   hmz  | 
|  15:13  |  ascent  |   So 800Mhz ought to be enough?  | 
|  15:13  |  rabeeh  |   which distribution?  | 
|  15:14  |  ascent  |   I think he runs the default ubuntu + xbmc  | 
|  15:14  |  rabeeh  |   oh; that one is really really old  | 
|  15:14  |  ascent  |   oh geekbox he says  | 
|  15:14  |  rabeeh  |   maybe you can ask him to upgrade to latest builds of geexbox?  | 
|  15:14  |  rabeeh  |   ok  | 
|  15:14  |  rabeeh  |   which build?  | 
|  15:15  |  rabeeh  |   is he trying to stream? or the file is local?  | 
|  15:15  |  ascent  |   some old build, he admits ... and, streaming from nas  | 
|  15:15  |  ascent  |   prolly smb  | 
|  15:16  |  ascent  |   Myself, I'm just looking for something to run smooth 1080p with xmbc and low overhead  | 
|  15:16  |  rabeeh  |   which 1080p ? h.264? any idea what the bitrate?  | 
|  15:16  |  ascent  |   and I really like the cubox for it's size and powerconsumption  | 
|  15:16  |  ascent  |   So, sorry, not too many details available.  | 
|  15:17  |  rabeeh  |   ok. not a problem  | 
|  15:17  |  ascent  |   What's your experience with 1080p yourself?  | 
|  15:17  |  ascent  |   is it able to handle anything you throw at it ?  | 
|  15:17  |  rabeeh  |   maybe he can try a newer build of geexbox? it's constantly being optimized  | 
|  15:17  |  ascent  |   I understand.  | 
|  15:17  |  rabeeh  |   1080p plays well for me; i tried content up to 20Mbps on TCP streams and works perfectly well  | 
|  15:17  |  ascent  |   streaming?  | 
|  15:17  |  rabeeh  |   on local drive I used bluray quality  | 
|  15:17  |  ascent  |   oh, yes..  | 
|  15:18  |  rabeeh  |   TCP stream is streaming. I typically use HTTP but in your case you would be using SMB  | 
|  15:18  |  ascent  |   local, being usb?  | 
|  15:18  |  rabeeh  |   usb  | 
|  15:18  |  ascent  |   ok.  | 
|  15:18  |  ascent  |   and hardware decoding with xbmc works out of the box?  | 
|  15:18  |  ascent  |   I'm looking for something I can just setup and use without too much tweaking  | 
|  15:20  |  rabeeh  |   well.. maybe you can try that with your friend.  | 
|  15:20  |  rabeeh  |   download the 'cubox installer' - http://www.solid-run.com/mw/index.php/CuBox_Installer  | 
|  15:20  |  rabeeh  |   and try it out; it provides you geexbox hardfp devel builds\  | 
|  15:21  |  rabeeh  |   and try it out; it provides you geexbox hardfp devel builds  | 
|  15:21  |  ascent  |   how about OpenELEC? Have you tried that on CuBoX?  | 
|  15:28  |  rabeeh  |   yes.  | 
|  15:28  |  rabeeh  |   openelec will be supported in sometime  | 
|  15:28  |  rabeeh  |   hopefully soon  | 
|  15:29  |  ascent  |   Cool :-) But, for now, do you consider it a plug-and-play mediaplayer? Like, unpack, install XBMC, and go?  | 
|  15:36  |  ascent  |   Oh, cool, I can borrow my friends cubox for a while  | 
|  15:55  |  rabeeh  |   ascent: with the CuBox installer, installing new things are much faster. please give it a try and get us some feedback  | 
|  15:56  |  ascent  |   I will. Wil that wikipage be the first thing I need to install the most up2date software for it?  | 
|  15:58  |  rabeeh  |   for geexbox yes; on every build of a geexbox the installer will give you a list that you can choose the latest.  | 
|  15:58  |  rabeeh  |   the intention is getting as much as possible things to the installer  | 
|  15:59  |  ascent  |   And is geexbox the way to go or should I put something else on it for HTPC purposes?  | 
|  16:13  |  rabeeh  |   there are quite few choices today; please browser the forums on wiki for that  | 
|  16:13  |  rabeeh  |   if you want xbmc only, the geexbox and xilkax are to choose  | 
|  16:13  |  ascent  |   okay.. I'll try to decide between those two  | 
|  16:13  |  rabeeh  |   if you want xbmc only as application then there is Arch that has support for that  | 
|  16:13  |  Kiranos  |   xilkax that is xbmc ontop of kde?  | 
|  16:13  |  rabeeh  |   yes  | 
|  16:14  |  ascent  |   I want it as slick and compact as possible  | 
|  16:14  |  rabeeh  |   cbxbiker61 on the channels i the main maintainer  | 
|  16:14  |  Kiranos  |   geekbox is boot instanly to xbmc  | 
|  16:14  |  Kiranos  |   ascent: I think geekbox is for you  | 
|  16:14  |  Kiranos  |   I should start typing it geexbox, dont know why I always see it as geekbox  | 
|  16:15  |  ascent  |   okay, so, geexbox it is, thanks kiranos and rabeeh :)  | 
|  17:36  |  punkt  |   regarding to https://github.com/laanwj/etna_viv will be some people @FOSDEM this year?  | 
|  17:48  |  suihkulokki  |   punkt: I'll be at fosdem  | 
|  19:56  |  cbxbiker61  |   dbsx, no i didn't have that patch, i'll add it and make sure it works  |