IRC log of #cubox of Fri 11 Jan 2013. All times are in CET < Back to index

00:07 cbxbiker61 http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Samsung-exynos5-Octa-8-Core-chip,20345.html
00:09 cbxbiker6 00:09 * cbxbiker61 wonders if Marvell is going to be able to compete in the crazy arm world
03:04 dbsx Can someone assist with uboot prob? I have 2 cuboxes, a V1 and a V2. Booting off the same uSD. The V1 works fine with u-boot-tools (fw_printenv), and I get
03:04 dbsx # cat /proc/mtd
03:04 dbsx dev: size erasesize name
03:04 dbsx mtd0: 00400000 00001000 "spi0.0"
03:04 dbsx the V2 has nothing in /proc/mtd
03:51 dbsx and the answer is:
03:51 dbsx V2 SF: Detected M25P32 with page size 64 kB, total 4 MB
03:51 dbsx V1 SF: Detected W25Q32 with page size 4 kB, total 4 MB
03:52 dbsx so the V2 has different flash?
09:26 dbsx biker?
13:29 ascent hmm the cubox installer looks pretty easy.. prep a usb drive, have an empty microsd ready and go..
14:09 ascent Any news on shipmentterms for the pro?
18:29 ascent okay.. now trying to boot the cubox v1 from usb
18:29 ascent oh lol.. it works.. that easy
18:29 ascent hmm there was xbmc 12 installed..
18:30 ascent thats not released with geexboxyet
18:38 ascent ah... softfp geexbox doesn't work from installer, but devel does
18:40 ascent so.. should I want xilka lite or geexbox..
18:59 purch is there a list of working microSDHC cards?
20:25 cbxbiker61 purch, sandisk has worked perfectly for me on cubox/sheeva
20:28 purch I ordered 2x transcend 16GB class 10 microSDHC
20:30 purch well if they dont work with cubox, maybe then in camera or pi
20:31 purch 4GB card too small for lucid -> precise
20:33 cbxbiker61 transcends have been good for me also, an interesting point about the sandisks is that they perform above their spec
20:33 cbxbiker61 sandisk class 4 seems to perform as well as other class 10's
20:34 purch well I ordered an esata dockstation and red caviar 3TB sataIII
20:34 purch then I can finalize my multitask server :)
20:34 purch still thinking about cubox pro with 2GB RAM
20:35 cbxbiker61 fyi, there is a great system utility called glances that is written in python
20:36 purch hmm, lets see
20:36 cbxbiker61 it shows "real" memory use as well as allocated memory use
20:36 cbxbiker61 quite useful when deciding whether you really need more memory
20:37 cbxbiker61 Used: 30.9G (1.7G)
20:38 cbxbiker61 that's on my main server with 32Gigs, only 1.7G is in actual use, the rest is filesystem caching
20:38 purch old server runs still for azureus, and I am swithing to deluge as it has daemon. Have to test a bit more if it fits to cubox too
20:39 purch apache and deluged can choke cubox eventually
20:40 cbxbiker61 i use transmission on my sheevaplug, it's about as light as it gets and does have a web interface
20:40 purch can it handle rss feeds?
20:41 cbxbiker61 i'm not sure
20:41 michael_cubox hello, what does happen to wiki? so much spam that recent changes is not usable at alll.
20:41 purch I used transmission some years ago, but nice to automate some work with rss feeds
20:44 purch cbxbiker61: any hint or easy guide for ubuntu precise in cubox w/o GPU memory reserved. I've never compiled a kernel myself
20:47 cbxbiker61 purch, all i know about eliminating the gpu reserved memory is what's in the forums, it appears you have to change a setting in the u-boot env
20:47 cbxbiker61 and use a kernel compiled without gpu support
20:48 purch that sounds what I understood, too
20:49 purch I think I have to use tht cubox installer on usb stick as I have the original media that came with cubox
20:57 cbxbiker61 i'm doing some rather tedious work at the moment...rebuilding all of the packages that were linked to libffi.so.5 to link to libffi.so.6
20:58 cbxbiker61 it's a real pain when they change the api on a library that's used as much as ffi
21:05 purch cbxbiker61: thanks for glances
21:06 cbxbiker61 yep
21:06 purch until today I used free, htop, iotop
22:21 ascent do you all run xbmc on the cubox?
22:21 dbsx nope
22:22 Thirsty_Away I like to. But old HTPC runs better with XBMC
22:22 Thirsty But, they make good progress
22:23 ascent okay. I borrowed a cubox from a friend of mine but I'm not overly satisfied with it's xbmc performance
22:23 Thirsty I going to try the latest geexbox snapshot
22:23 ascent and I'm afraid that the v2 won't be ththat much better
22:23 ascent I tried that one tonight
22:23 ascent runs with frodo, which is nice
22:24 Thirsty I still want to try the HDMI CEC support. So I don't need a seperet remote
22:25 ascent so, is there a good alternative to xbmc regarding mediacenter function?
22:26 Thirsty I think not. XBMC is one of the best.
22:26 Thirsty 10 years ago i used freevo.
22:26 ascent hmm okay, so I still wonder which htpc hardware I should buy.
22:28 Thirsty I got an old pentium mobile with a cheap nvidia GT210 HDMI videocard.
22:28 Thirsty Also with geexbox
22:28 ascent colleage of mine has a zotac..
22:28 Thirsty and is plays everything
22:28 ascent they're nice too
22:29 Thirsty I think every modern hardware will do.
22:29 ascent I think 800Mhz is just not enought anymore for a GUI + XBMC
22:30 Thirsty that is not the problem.
22:30 Thirsty Not all the hardware features are used.
22:31 Thirsty for example: JPEG pictures are still redered by the cpu. But GPU can do that to and a lot faster
22:31 ascent but spending money now on something that is not done yet and may or may not be great in the end is a bit of a gamble..
22:31 ascent hmm
22:38 Thirsty depents, I bought one to get more knowledge about arm cpu's and linux.
22:39 Thirsty And i liked the small side and full features.
22:39 ascent they are nice, I'm sure of that.
22:39 ascent look at arms in phones.. they're pretty good
22:39 ascent but not that well supported on xbmc yet
22:41 Thirsty same problem is with the cubox.... drivers!
22:41 ascent :)
22:41 ascent perhaps I should just go zotax
22:42 ascent but they're bigger and have fans ... :/
22:42 Thirsty but many people are working hard to get it working.
22:42 ascent :)
22:43 ascent but will it work fluently when everything is done...
22:45 cbxbiker61 zotax with amd starting with the e-350 using the XbmcXvba port and proprietary drivers works nicely
22:45 Thirsty I sure about it!
22:45 cbxbiker61 still enough horsepower to software decode mpeg
22:46 Thirsty A cheap AMD A4-5400 will do too
22:46 cbxbiker61 yes, i continue to plug away on CuBox/Xbmc
22:47 dbsx biker: an you help with http://www.solid-run.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1093 ?
22:49 cbxbiker61 rabeeh will have the ultimate answer for that
22:51 Thirsty It seams a different brand.
22:51 dbsx ascent: methinks that many people use cubox as a cooler, nicer replacement for earlier ARM machines. It makes for a good always on headless machine
22:51 ascent dbsx: it sure does!
22:52 ascent and I think it plays video just fine, but the xbmcmenu is just stuttery all the way.. and that's too bad ..
22:53 dbsx ascent: I have not tried yet, but I am told the latest snapshot is faster with XBMC menus. CEC works perfectly for me.
22:54 cbxbiker61 starting with jdk7u10 oracle is supporting armv6/armv7, i'm installing it now
22:54 Thirsty dbsx: I want try it.
22:55 ascent latest snapshot of geexbox?
22:55 Thirsty `geexbox-devel-20130107-r15738.cubox.tar.bz2
22:55 ascent installed that tonight using cubox installer
22:55 ascent hmm
22:56 Thirsty http://download.geexbox.org/snapshots/geexbox-xbmc-armada5xx-cubox/20130107/binaries.cubox/geexbox-devel-20130107-r15738.cubox.tar.bz2
22:56 ascent is that the same as the cubox installer installs? :)
22:56 Thirsty I don't no
22:57 Thirsty I never used cubox installer.
22:57 dbsx ascent: yes, the 0107. I am a heretic and do not use the installer anymore. Much simpler I find without it
22:58 rmull Thirsty: How'd your move go? Any updates coming in for your github sources?
22:59 Thirsty rmull: Move is fine. I did get finally some rest to play with the cubox again.
22:59 Thirsty I was searching for some new updates for the kernel.
23:00 dbsx Thirsty/biker: I am like a physicist seeking the GUT. I am seeking the GUK (grand unified kernel). There are good things in rabeehs, bikers and thirtys kernels, I just wish they were consolidated into one.
23:02 Thirsty dbsx: want I did with the 3.5 kernel was easy. gather the patches and put them in a git repository.
23:03 Thirsty but with the new kernel versions 3.6 and higher. It is not that easy to merge the old code with the new stuff.
23:04 Thirsty thay changed a lot of things.
23:04 Thirsty shesselba did a lot of the work to get the cubox in the mainline kernel
23:05 Thirsty but that only for the basic cubox functions like ethernet, flash and UARTS. But not the GPU driver.
23:06 dbsx So thirsty, with your current kernel do you have this problem? http://www.solid-run.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1093
23:09 shesselba Thirsty: gpu will come some day but first there is basic stuff to do.
23:12 Thirsty dbsx: I also have a V1
23:13 rmull I have a v1 with a Thirsty kernel, though a modified config, and I just have column headers in /proc/mtd
23:13 Thirsty shesselba: good to know. I think my github will over time be useless.
23:13 rmull aww.
23:13 shesselba thirsty: can you pastebin your kernel log from v2 boot?
23:14 Thirsty shesselba: I don't have v2 version.
23:15 shesselba then dbsx?
23:15 dmitrijus i do
23:15 dbsx Thanks rmull. That means that it is just kernel difference. I am using 3.5.4 based on bikers kernel (with a few different config options). It works a treat on the V1
23:15 Thirsty the geexbox snapshot runs pretty smooth. I seems a big improvement!
23:15 dbsx yes shesselba will do give me a minute
23:19 shesselba rmull: your spi0 issue sounds like missing mtdparts= cmdline - pastebin your log too
23:19 dbsx http://pastebin.com/kFsaXRzT
23:20 ascent v2 is the pro, right?
23:21 shesselba dbsx: can you post the one from v1 also?
23:21 shesselba just want to check if there should be an mtdparts= cmdline at all
23:21 ascent how do you guys already have the prop?
23:22 shesselba v2 doesn't have it - so there is no way for the kernel to determine partitions on spi flash
23:22 shesselba s/v2/v2 bootlog/
23:22 shesselba I don't have a pro
23:23 dbsx http://pastebin.com/9zrsF2ed
23:24 Thirsty ascent: V1 is "kind of proto" version, v2 is the release version the CE marking.
23:24 Thirsty Pro versions the sames as V2 but with more ram.
23:24 dbsx the two boxes are booted of the same boot.scr so same kernel parameters
23:27 shesselba m25p80 spi0.0: unrecognized JEDEC id 20ba16
23:27 shesselba from v2 bootlog
23:27 shesselba your kernel doesn't know about the flash type
23:28 dbsx shesselba: so I do I fix it?
23:29 shesselba actually the flash is called n25q032 and was introduced in 3.7-rc8..
23:29 shesselba you just have to add the corresponding line in drivers/mtd/devices/m25p80.c
23:29 rmull shesselba: Yes, I don't have the mtdparts= cmdline
23:30 shesselba I was wrong about the mtdparts= cmdline
23:30 shesselba there is none required
23:30 rmull ah okay
23:30 shesselba rmull: pastebin your bootlog
23:30 rmull shesselba: Sorry, I do not have it available at the moment
23:31 dbsx so spi_board_info has nought to do with it?
23:31 rmull I'll get in touch when I do
23:32 rmull Actually, I can get it
23:32 shesselba dbsx: in cubox_setup.c ? no it is irrelevant because the driver is m25p80 and handles all known spi nor flashes
23:33 rmull shesselba: http://sprunge.us/RZEi
23:33 rmull I also have the spi0.0 unrecognized JEDEC
23:34 shesselba and if there is jedec support (basically a identification register) kernel will fix the wrong "w25q32" from spi_board_info and just complain about the mismatch
23:34 shesselba rmull: give me a second to work out dbsx's issue
23:34 rmull No rush, I wouldn't have noticed if he didn't bring it up
23:39 shesselba dbsx: posted a patch on forum
23:40 dbsx shesselba: You have my undying gratitude
23:40 shesselba please first try the patch ;)
23:40 dbsx will do
23:40 shesselba rmull: looks like the spi flash was also changed within v1 production. you need the patch too
23:42 dbsx Will post back here when I have rebuilt kernel
23:54 cbxbiker61 dbsx, why aren't you using 3.5.7?
23:55 dbsx biker: I am about to
23:55 dbsx time
23:57 cbxbiker61 i've just put a newer 3.5.7 online with the patch
23:57 dbsx ok will try that first