| 06:16 | Coburn | cbxbiker61: your latest kernel apparently turns off the led? |
| 06:35 | cbxbiker61 | Coburn, yes somewhere along the line rabeeh added a patch that dims the led once the cubox is booted |
| 06:40 | Coburn | Well, it's completely off... |
| 12:54 | Bochi | moin |
| 12:55 | Bochi | what distro is currently recommended for xbmc on cubox, or what's the best way to get xbmc running nicely on cubox? |
| 12:56 | Bochi | from what I read on the forums experiences differ from "running very well" to "argh" |
| 13:26 | Thirsty | Bochi: I think Geexbox is now one of the best. |
| 13:27 | Thirsty | geexbox now heavy under development to make it more smooth and perfect |
| 13:27 | Thirsty | I can't wait for a new snapshot build. |
| 13:28 | Thirsty | I read the last version commits and they are very promissing. |
| 13:33 | Bochi | hmm ok thank you Thirsty, I will give it a shot |
| 13:37 | Thirsty | here you will find the latest snapshots. http://download.geexbox.org/snapshots/geexbox-xbmc-armada5xx-cubox/ |
| 13:39 | rabeeh | there should be a new build on the way that make fps higher |
| 13:39 | Bochi | yeah the geexbox site soulds promising |
| 13:39 | Bochi | solidrun partnership and everything |
| 13:39 | dbsx | wtf is it with oct3 uboot? It refuses to allow you to update bootcmd |
| 13:40 | dmitrijus | dbsx: yes, i hate too! |
| 13:41 | Thirsty | did anyone tried u-boot with v3.8 kernel with device tree support? |
| 13:41 | dbsx | Nice idea if only the usb functions were made to work first. Inordinately stupid move |
| 13:41 | dbsx | gnite folks its nearly midnight its hot and I am most annoyed |
| 13:42 | Thirsty | good night. |
| 13:44 | rabeeh | dbsx: yes - it overrides that |
| 13:49 | rabeeh | dbsx: i though it was a good idea not letting people mess with bootcmd. |
| 14:50 | dbsx | rabeeh: it might be a good idea if uboot was tested and perfect, which it is not. Not being able mod uboot means that I am stuck with situation where I cannot modify uboot to demonstrate a ported application to a corporate client. Time does not permit a rebuild. Which means I have cancelled the demonstration. As it stands the uboot setup is a total disaster. Losing a corporate client is a bigger disaster. |
| 15:16 | punkt_ | change from uboot to barebox |
| 15:35 | dmitrijus | rabeeh: restricting users is never a good idea.. |
| 15:36 | `jpi | dmitrijus: true i have a ethernet console where the u-boot time is 0. depending on a hardware switch |
| 15:37 | rmull | Thirsty: Your new kernel updates fixed some audio glitching I was having. Thanks! |
| 15:37 | `jpi | i wanted to ignore the status of the pin by modifying u-boot but i messed something . now can't boot it :( |
| 15:37 | `jpi | needs jtag :p |
| 15:37 | `jpi | but there are no pins on it=> soldering |
| 15:38 | punkt_ | `jpi: why do you need jtag |
| 15:38 | `jpi | i hate when things like this poorly designed :( |
| 15:38 | `jpi | messed up u-boot |
| 15:38 | punkt_ | `jpi: the cubox can load the bootloader via serial |
| 15:38 | `jpi | hey i was talking about an ethernet consloe |
| 15:38 | `jpi | not cubox |
| 15:39 | punkt_ | `jpi: oh, i see, whatever ethernet console that is |
| 15:39 | `jpi | opengear |
| 15:40 | `jpi | they also gave me a pinout of the jtag but it needs soldering the board :) |
| 15:40 | punkt_ | `jpi: to sad |
| 15:43 | dmitrijus | `jpi: why would you ever want to ignore that pin? |
| 15:57 | rabeeh | dmitrijus: what do you suggest then? i'm stuck between pros and beginners |
| 15:57 | rabeeh | pros wants everything tweakable and beginners wants things more easy |
| 16:01 | rabeeh | tomlohave-away: ping |
| 16:09 | dmitrijus | rabeeh: i suggest just: if (! getenv("dont_override_because_im_an_engineer")) { :) |
| 16:09 | rabeeh | hehe |
| 16:10 | rabee | 16:10 * rabeeh cuts and pastes from IRC |
| 16:10 | dmitrijus | :D |
| 16:10 | bencoh | ^^ |
| 16:11 | bencoh | (I definitely wouldn't like being able to tinker with my bootcmd, btw) |
| 16:11 | bencoh | (it would just prevent me from working ;) |
| 16:13 | dmitrijus | well, not just bootcmd, maybe tip: changing trydev order to "mmc ide usb", since usb takes about 10 seconds to initialize |
| 16:13 | rabeeh | http://pastebin.com/yyu1CBtE |
| 16:13 | dmitrijus | :DD |
| 16:13 | dmitrijus | thanks |
| 16:16 | rmull | What problem does this solve? |
| 16:16 | rabeeh | the 10 seconds is mainly if someone is using a mechanical usb drive, which gives extra time to spinup the drive |
| 16:16 | rabeeh | rmull: overriding bootcmd on every boot |
| 16:17 | rmull | Why would we do that in the first place? |
| 16:17 | rabeeh | :) |
| 16:17 | rabeeh | scroll up |
| 16:17 | rmull | Isn't the default bootcmd acceptable? If someone is a novice, why would they change it? |
| 16:17 | rabeeh | because he is a novice |
| 16:18 | rabeeh | well... resetenv would fix it |
| 16:18 | rmull | I strongly disagree with this decision |
| 16:18 | dmitrijus | yep |
| 16:18 | rmull | FWIW |
| 16:18 | rmull | Obviously flipping switches and turning knobs is something that may have undesired results if you don't understand what you're doing |
| 16:18 | rabeeh | ok. i can change that and give it a month or two |
| 16:19 | dmitrijus | rmull: well, so, don't |
| 16:19 | rabeeh | ok.. there are tricky parts - |
| 16:20 | rabeeh | i force the following too - |
| 16:20 | rabeeh | setenv("mmc_started","0"); |
| 16:20 | rabeeh | setenv("ide_started","0"); |
| 16:20 | rabeeh | setenv("usb_started","0"); |
| 16:20 | dmitrijus | these are okay |
| 16:21 | dmitrijus | the only problem is the bootcmd, if you have that, you can override everything else :) |
| 16:22 | rmull | Maybe you should override the 'rm' command so that people don't accidentally delete things <_< |
| 16:22 | rmull | Being sarcastic, of course |
| 16:25 | dmitrijus | rmull: well, the current situation (in my eyes) is that people wanting to do some non-standard bootup end up patching/flashing u-boot, which has much more potential for screwing up |
| 16:26 | rmull | I understand, but I would expect that people understand the implications when they start mucking about with things like that. Perhap the documentation should stress the point or something. |
| 16:28 | dmitrijus | sure |
| 16:28 | dmitrijus | i agree |
| 16:29 | bencoh | btw, what's the real problem with someone unexperimented messing with its own bootcmd ? |
| 16:30 | bencoh | I mean, he can still reflash with xmodem as a last resort |
| 17:07 | Thirsty | rmull: Great! |
| 17:07 | Thirsty | back to home |
| 23:41 | dbsx | I just read the irc archive from when I was asleep. It seems that rabeeh is confused about whether he is supporting consumer electronics or a DEVEL kit |
| 23:48 | dotarray | yes. |
| 23:48 | dotarray | ...in a word, yes. |
| 23:56 | dbsx | So [.] (thats a dotarray), maybe you change the website to say 'CuBox unmodifiable kit' rather than 'CuBox devel kit' |