| 09:37 | Thirsty_Away | exit |
| 15:51 | dung | no wiki page about compiling is linked directly from the main page anymore :) |
| 15:53 | dung | except the list of patches |
| 15:53 | dung | good |
| 16:07 | dung | i like tables - it's not filled correctly, i mean i have some ? |
| 16:12 | dung | and of course it can be more stylish :) |
| 16:35 | Bochi | anybody here using geexbox/xbmc on the cubox? |
| 16:39 | rabeeh | yes |
| 16:39 | rabeeh | Bochi: yes. |
| 16:41 | Bochi | rabeeh: ok do you see artefacts when playing video sometimes? |
| 16:41 | Bochi | esp. with HD content? |
| 16:41 | Bochi | i am using the latest dev snapshot btw |
| 16:41 | rabeeh | i'v seen those on SD and below. |
| 16:41 | Bochi | and video over nfs |
| 16:42 | Bochi | hmm weird, sd actually works here |
| 16:42 | rabeeh | the artifacts are rectangles that moves for few seconds? |
| 16:42 | Bochi | yeah |
| 16:42 | Bochi | plus the sound has glitches sometimes |
| 16:42 | rabeeh | i'v sent a patch to geexbox few days ago that fixes this issue |
| 16:42 | Bochi | also I have seen async sound quite a few times |
| 16:42 | Bochi | cool |
| 16:42 | Bochi | so i'll just wait for the next dev snapshot and try |
| 16:42 | Bochi | thanks |
| 16:43 | rabeeh | http://hg.openbricks.org/openbricks/rev/0e0ef8f869c4 |
| 16:43 | rabeeh | devel build will be there in few days |
| 16:59 | Coolgeek | it seems that geexbox is going well on cubox :) |
| 17:01 | rabeeh | Coolgeek: which build are you using? |
| 17:02 | Coolgeek | none, i use my cubox as a personnal server |
| 17:03 | Coolgeek | just saying that when people talk about geexbox as a success story |
| 17:03 | Coolgeek | i remember trying to have a functionnal xbmc on archlinux without suces |
| 17:03 | Coolgeek | and now geexbox is running quite smoothly according to some post on the forum |
| 17:04 | Coolgeek | I see there was work that as been done since that time |
| 17:04 | Coolgeek | success* |
| 17:05 | yaayaa | Coolgeek: I also failed compiling xbmc on arch on the cubox |
| 17:05 | yaayaa | too bad |
| 17:06 | yaayaa | but a very king memeber of the channel provided me with a compiled version |
| 17:06 | yaayaa | It would be great to provide updated xbmc binaries for archlinux |
| 17:07 | yaayaa | what I'm still missing under arch on cubox is a command line video player using hadware accel., like omxplayer on the pi |
| 17:07 | Coolgeek | yaayaa: get the pkgbuild and try yourself :) |
| 17:08 | yaayaa | Coolgeek: I tried. But I needed to do cross compilation |
| 17:08 | yaayaa | local build used to fail |
| 17:08 | Coolgeek | ? why ? |
| 17:08 | Coolgeek | erf |
| 17:08 | Coolgeek | because of gcc ? |
| 17:08 | yaayaa | probably not enough ram |
| 17:08 | Coolgeek | segfault ? |
| 17:08 | yaayaa | yes |
| 17:09 | Coolgeek | I think it's fixed now |
| 17:09 | yaayaa | Cool ! I'll try again then |
| 17:09 | yaayaa | Have you managed to compile and run it ?* |
| 17:10 | Coolgeek | no, didn't try it |
| 17:10 | yaayaa | but you read somewhere that the segfault problem was gone ? |
| 17:11 | Coolgeek | I have a BD Player that play HD video from a DLNA server, so I use my cubox as a personnal server |
| 17:11 | Coolgeek | yaayaa: yes, I read that |
| 17:11 | yaayaa | yes gigabit rules |
| 17:11 | Coolgeek | yup :) |
| 17:12 | yaayaa | but I would still like to find a decent command line video player |
| 17:12 | dmitrijus | mplayer?! :) |
| 17:13 | yaayaa | mplayer does not use hadware acc to my understanding |
| 17:13 | yaayaa | on cubix I mean |
| 17:13 | yaayaa | s/cubix/cubox |
| 17:14 | dmitrijus | hm, maybe, i use cubox for as a headless servah |
| 17:14 | yaayaa | same for me, but I feel guilty having and hdmi output without using it :) |
| 17:16 | dung | mplayer is very configureable. it can pass-through as shesselba demonstrated, and you can decode SD content in software on CuBox |
| 17:17 | dung | typical xvid,mp3 with 50% CPU |
| 17:17 | yaayaa | I love mplayer. But I would like to have 1080p support as well, without having to use xbmc just for that |
| 17:19 | dung | XBMC might be the favorite mediaplayer on BSD |
| 17:20 | yaayaa | with the --test option :) |
| 17:22 | yaayaa | but geekbox is using a fork of mplayer, right ? |
| 17:23 | yaayaa | wrong: not any longer |
| 17:26 | dung | it's currently the only player that can decode video hardware accelerated as hard-float binary |
| 17:26 | dung | puh |
| 17:27 | dung | on cubox |
| 17:28 | rmull | I think gstreamer players in general are supposed to work, right? |
| 17:28 | yaayaa | yes |
| 17:28 | rmull | I had some good results with h.264 stuff, not perfect, but getting there |
| 17:29 | rmull | using really basic gst playback |
| 17:29 | yaayaa | gst-launch told me that h264 was not supported |
| 17:29 | yaayaa | gst-launch-1.0 |
| 17:31 | rmull | Did you install all the cubox gst plugins? |
| 17:33 | yaayaa | I installed everything returned by pacman -Ss cubox$ and pacman -Ss marvell |
| 17:33 | dung | or 20%.. can't remember |
| 18:09 | yaayaa | byby guys. see you |
| 20:12 | dung | mplayer pass-through http://80.66.46.65/CuBox/irc/?query=shesselba*mplayer |
| 21:28 | dbsx | Methinks wiki is a mess. 3 description categories, stuff that does not work, stuff that works, stuff that we would like to work and does not. There is no indication whether an entry it is real or imaginary. |
| 21:29 | dbsx | It also needs to split between user and dev. worlds. |
| 21:44 | rmull | dbsx: I agree entirely... Last I checked the database was still locked though |
| 21:56 | dung | same Linux can be used with multiple distributions. all kernels support VFP. all distributions with GFX have DRI. currently, IPP can only be used without FPU, where applications can use GStreamer to play HD. |
| 22:00 | dung | the new table helps users choose distribution, and distributions choose their way |
| 22:03 | rmull | dung: Are you referring to the wiki? |
| 22:03 | dung | yes |
| 22:03 | rmull | The biggest problem as far as I can tell is that while you have contributed a lot of content (thanks for that) it's really unclear in many places, possibly due to non-native english |
| 22:05 | dung | the table asks questions i can't answer |
| 22:19 | dung | the history i left looks like a mess |
| 22:21 | dung | if you want it very easy, just take the compiled static kernel. it's not up-to-date and has no patches, but supports GFX. no modules to copy |
| 22:23 | dung | but there are more to choose |
| 22:23 | dung | second table |
| 22:27 | dung | i do not have spent time to provide an up-to-date all in one kernel.. it's an option, which is now clearer. extend the list of compiled kernels, but not too much - focus on differences |
| 22:32 | dung | we could provide a defconfig for distributions, which need to support each add-on device |
| 22:33 | dung | i haven't looked into kernel config for some time, i'm sure mine need polish |
| 22:36 | dv505 | how is that related to the wiki? I agree with dbsx that it look a bit messy now |
| 22:36 | dv505 | why not revert back to yesterday's version? that was a lot clearer in many ways |
| 22:38 | dung | oh my ;) |
| 22:40 | dv505 | don't take it too hard. but from a new user perspective, it's not a gentle introduction into the Cubox world |
| 22:41 | dv505 | with VFP, GFX, IPP, etc in a table on the first page |
| 22:41 | dv505 | I think that could be great for a new article 'Comparison of CuBox distributions' |
| 22:41 | dung | that's what makes them different |
| 22:42 | rmull | It's not a good idea. |
| 22:42 | dung | that helps choosing, i would love it |
| 22:43 | rmull | Maybe you would, others probably wouldn't, but it doesn't actually make sense. |
| 22:44 | dung | the simple _x_'s dont't format that ugly |
| 22:44 | rmull | For instance, all of these distros are obviously using Linux kernels, but for some reason, the Linux column is not completely full. |
| 22:45 | dung | that tells one that it isn't installable from repo |
| 22:46 | rmull | And how would anybody but you know that? |
| 22:47 | dung | and you know you can download a compiled one, but it's easy to cross-compile linux with a pastes |
| 22:47 | rmull | ugh |
| 22:48 | dung | in a few steps.. configuration? another page or two |
| 22:52 | rmull | dung: There are three people on IRC who are strongly convinced that your rearranging of the wiki is hurting, not helping |
| 22:53 | rmull | Just something to think about. |
| 22:55 | dung | i noticed that a lot like to have their pages. i created some, that i cannot fill on my own. it seems you have to like it or not |
| 22:57 | dung | let's keep it at least as long as i watched it |
| 22:58 | dung | i didn't want to hurt - no page has been removed, nor unlinked |
| 22:59 | dung | it's more whitespace on the frontpage now |
| 23:01 | dung | indeed |
| 23:01 | dung | something to think about |
| 23:02 | dv505 | a simple list on the front page can be good enough, but that that list must be well structured |
| 23:02 | dv505 | and provide some clear entry points for new users and experienced developers |
| 23:08 | dung | i've learned here that Linux is distributed via git. all we need to provide is a link to gittutorial |
| 23:09 | dung | i'm not experienced nor a developer |
| 23:10 | dmitrijus | dung: well, actually, git was originally built for linux :) |
| 23:10 | dung | am i? |
| 23:11 | dung | you can get it from kernel.org |
| 23:12 | dung | and nowadays the blob for Cubox too :) where is that explained in the wiki? |
| 23:12 | dung | it's between Linux and U-Boot |
| 23:13 | dmitrijus | yep, but those are just archived versions :) Linus wrote git, after some copyright issues, that is actually a fun story, you should read it somethere :) |
| 23:13 | dung | there's a place on the Linux page for that |
| 23:15 | dung | for the FDT |
| 23:16 | dmitrijus | fdt? |
| 23:19 | dung | as i understand, it let one use parts of the Cubox with mainline kernel |
| 23:21 | dung | each ARM can keep its FDT for that |
| 23:29 | rabeeh | dung: There are three people on IRC who are strongly convinced that your rearranging of the wiki is hurting, not helping |
| 23:29 | rabeeh | add Rabeeh to that |
| 23:29 | rabeeh | dung: can you please undo the changes? |
| 23:29 | rabeeh | Coburn: i'v found the issue with the tilted graphics plane. sent patches to GeexBox |
| 23:33 | dung | rabeeh: i've troubles to do so. i believe it's easier for you. or someone else creates the table layout again.. i don't know |
| 23:35 | dung | any suggestions? |
| 23:53 | dung | patches to GeeXboX |