| 02:11 | Coburn | overheard from another channel: |
| 02:11 | Coburn | [11:11:08] when i run a mount command I lose my ability to use wget on a pogoplug |
| 02:12 | Cobur | 02:12 * Coburn facepalms |
| 05:07 | DHowett | my god i cannot take the interminable waiting on "origin post preparing shipment" |
| 05:07 | DHowett | I need to forget my cubox exists so that I'm surprised by it when it shows up :/ |
| 05:41 | Coburn | dbsx: is the hash acceleration engine code in the 3.5.x kernel tree for the h/w hashing chip? |
| 05:41 | Coburn | because I've been tinkering with bitcoin mining (very hash intensive) and thought cubox might be interesting with it's hashing chip |
| 05:52 | dbsx | Coburn: ask Rabeeh, I am not sure |
| 06:57 | `jpi | Coburn: you must be kidding |
| 06:57 | Coburn | `jpi: Sorta. |
| 06:57 | Coburn | The ODROID does 2Mhash/s on the CPU alone |
| 06:57 | `jpi | cesa is not to help you mine all the bitcoins |
| 06:58 | Coburn | What do you mean? |
| 06:58 | Coburn | I thought it would boost Hash rate? |
| 06:58 | `jpi | yes but think about the cpu frequency |
| 06:58 | Coburn | I only tried it as a proof of concept |
| 06:58 | `jpi | your pc can do better |
| 06:58 | `jpi | way better |
| 06:58 | Coburn | sure, but I want to see what it can do |
| 06:58 | Coburn | ODROID does 2Mhash/s |
| 06:59 | `jpi | what is ODROID ? |
| 06:59 | Coburn | quad core 1.7Ghz ARM board |
| 06:59 | Coburn | but |
| 06:59 | Coburn | answer me this |
| 06:59 | Coburn | will cesa have any role in making bitcoin hashes faster |
| 06:59 | Coburn | or will it just be bypassed |
| 06:59 | `jpi | what do you mean bypassed ? |
| 07:00 | `jpi | if your bitcoin software uses /dev/crypto or something it will certainly perform better "on cubox" |
| 07:00 | Coburn | looks like cgminer can |
| 07:00 | `jpi | i guess it uses openssl ? |
| 07:01 | `jpi | then just build openssl to use /dev/crypto |
| 07:03 | Coburn | No, it doesn't |
| 07:03 | Coburn | Hmmm.... Might as well compile and try this sucker out |
| 07:04 | `jpi | your kernel has ces acode ? |
| 07:04 | `jpi | cat /proc/crypto |
| 07:05 | Coburn | w/e was in vDorst's tree is in my kernel build |
| 07:06 | `jpi | rabeeh's linux tree also has cesa |
| 07:06 | `jpi | if you see any mv-* algo in output then you can use /dev/crypto :) |
| 07:09 | Coburn | driver : mv-hmac-sha1, mv-sha1, mv-cbc-aes, mv-ecb-aes |
| 07:11 | Coburn | `jpi: for the record, see: http://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=295 |
| 07:15 | `jpi | good |
| 07:15 | `jpi | it requires me to login :) |
| 07:15 | `jpi | hold on googlecahce |
| 07:16 | `jpi | no |
| 07:21 | Coburn | it does? |
| 07:21 | Coburn | oh |
| 07:22 | Coburn | hang on `jpi |
| 07:22 | Coburn | `jpi: There. >> http://puu.sh/2clGc |
| 07:24 | `jpi | ok |
| 07:24 | `jpi | it has crypto extensions ? |
| 07:24 | `jpi | this odroid ? |
| 07:30 | `jpi | Coburn: this cgminer has it's own hash implementations |
| 07:31 | `jpi | it can be told to use gpu/fpga and stuff also |
| 07:32 | Coburn | the odroid doesn't have crypto hash extensions |
| 07:32 | Coburn | it's basically a embedded CPU board that uses a galaxy note II CPU |
| 07:32 | Coburn | for $85 |
| 07:34 | `jpi | yes as far as i see your cgminer can not use cesa |
| 07:36 | Coburn | let's find out |
| 07:39 | Coburn | Job done |
| 07:40 | Coburn | http://puu.sh/2cowC |
| 07:40 | Coburn | cgminer on my cubox :) |
| 07:40 | `jpi | but it doesn't use ces a:p |
| 07:40 | Coburn | write a driver for it :) |
| 07:40 | dmitrijus | Coburn: hehe, 168kh/s |
| 07:41 | `jpi | ok |
| 07:41 | Coburn | I guess I'm obsessed with Bitcoin at the moment |
| 07:41 | Coburn | give it time and I'll get over it |
| 07:42 | Coburn | Just want my coins!!!!11 |
| 07:42 | dmitrijus | Coburn: by generating them? at 168kh/s? :) |
| 07:42 | `jpi | build an awesome gpu based computer |
| 07:42 | Coburn | I could do that, but I don't need all that power... :-| |
| 07:42 | Coburn | plus power consumption |
| 07:43 | Coburn | I odon't like the idea of sucking up 1 kilowatt |
| 07:44 | `jpi | actually i have quadrofx good idea to start mining :p |
| 07:44 | dmitrijus | Coburn: but why not just buy bitcoin? :) even if you have a proper 1kilowatt sucking box, it will still take weeks or months to return you a single bitcoin |
| 07:45 | Coburn | > nVidia |
| 07:45 | Coburn | :-| |
| 07:45 | Coburn | I would rather make money than buy it |
| 07:46 | Coburn | plus, I don't think a lot of places here in AU are adopting BTC |
| 07:46 | Coburn | > Ubuntu is an African word that means "I can't configure Debian" |
| 07:46 | Coburn | I chuckled |
| 07:46 | dmitrijus | true though |
| 07:46 | dmitrijus | :D |
| 07:46 | Coburn | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/03/04/1716213/gamer-rewrites-valves-steam-installer-for-debian?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed |
| 07:47 | Coburn | I thank you, gamer, for supporting the OS that I grew up with |
| 07:47 | Coburn | Debian is in my blood. |
| 07:48 | Coburn | Let's see how well my AltiVec PowerPC Mac Mini likes dem coinz |
| 07:48 | Coburn | http://idle.slashdot.org/story/13/03/04/1434205/drm-furniture-chair-self-destructs-after-8-uses?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed |
| 07:48 | Coburn | DRM Furniture |
| 07:49 | Coburn | Oh come on, Debian. Stop apt-getting |
| 07:54 | dmitrijus | "Not free enough, 2/10 would not install." :D:D |
| 07:54 | dmitriju | 07:54 * dmitrijus always had the hatred of ubuntu |
| 08:26 | Coburn | Wow |
| 08:26 | Coburn | CuBox just did it's first share |
| 14:35 | ian____ | hello, I'm having trouble reimaging my cubox -- is this the right place ot come for help? |
| 14:47 | dv505 | ian___: this or the forums, your choice |
| 14:51 | rabeeh | ian___: what is the issue? |
| 14:53 | dv505 | ian____ with 4 underscores… use the correct name, just to get his IRC client beeping |
| 14:55 | ian____ | I accidentaly upgraded over the default linux install, so the box stopped working and I was having trouble following the wiki directions for reimaging |
| 14:56 | ian____ | @rabeeh: but it looks like the wiki has been updated since I last tried, and it's working now |
| 14:56 | rabeeh | great. |
| 14:56 | rabeeh | unbricking issue? |
| 14:56 | rabeeh | which issue was that? |
| 14:56 | ian____ | @rabeeh: what is the recomended distrobution at this point? |
| 14:57 | rabeeh | ian____: are you trying to start a flamewar at #cubox? :) |
| 14:59 | ian____ | @rabeeh: the issue was that I couldn't get the serial connection nor the hdmi installer working, the updated directions on flashing u-boot helped out |
| 15:05 | rabeeh | if there is anything missing please update the wiki accordingly. |
| 15:08 | captainigloo | angstrom is the best one |
| 15:08 | captainigloo | but not recommended :) |
| 16:25 | rabeeh | captainigloo: i see that you add the graphics stuff? |
| 16:28 | captainigloo | rabeeh: it's not working yet |
| 16:28 | rabeeh | X? |
| 16:28 | captainigloo | yes |
| 16:28 | rabeeh | why? |
| 16:28 | captainigloo | no Mir :P |
| 16:28 | rabeeh | which Xorg version are you using? |
| 16:29 | rabeeh | there is a patch for the dovefb for Xorg versions >= 13 |
| 16:29 | captainigloo | good question let me check |
| 16:30 | captainigloo | xserver 1.11.2 |
| 16:30 | captainigloo | this version makes sens ? |
| 16:31 | rabeeh | yes |
| 16:31 | rabeeh | xorg server dovefb should work as-is |
| 16:31 | captainigloo | ok |
| 16:31 | rabeeh | have an Xorg.0.log? |
| 16:32 | captainigloo | it uses fbdev for now |
| 16:32 | captainigloo | i need to tweak it |
| 16:32 | captainigloo | and build dovefb |
| 16:33 | captainigloo | well in fact i never tried to plug an hdmi screen :) |
| 16:33 | captainigloo | i would like opengles acceleration as well |
| 16:34 | captainigloo | is vlc working with video hardware acceleration ? |
| 16:35 | rabeeh | nop |
| 16:36 | rabeeh | vlc not accelerated. |
| 16:36 | captainigloo | ok |
| 16:36 | rabeeh | there isn't dri2 support too |
| 16:36 | captainigloo | i would like to try enna also |
| 16:36 | rabeeh | :) |
| 16:36 | rabee | 16:36 * rabeeh likes enna |
| 16:36 | rabeeh | i like it's simplicity |
| 16:36 | captainigloo | hehe, so you will happy to know that they will be a release soon ... |
| 16:37 | captainigloo | which video backend is accelerated ? |
| 16:42 | rabeeh | gstreamer |
| 16:42 | rabee | 16:42 * rabeeh hates gstreamer |
| 16:42 | rabeeh | are you familiar with vlc internals? |
| 16:47 | captainigloo | no |
| 17:20 | captainigloo | rabeeh: i just tried Xorg and it works out of the box |
| 17:21 | rabeeh | :) |
| 17:22 | rabeeh | dovefb? fb? |
| 17:22 | captainigloo | fbdev |
| 17:22 | captainigloo | i guess dovefb is better ? |
| 17:22 | rabeeh | dovefb would be better (besides you will get edid stuff) |
| 17:23 | rabeeh | there are few patches from the olpc team (jnettlet) that has iwmmxt acceleration for pixman and other things. |
| 17:23 | rabee | 17:23 * rabeeh searching his emails |
| 17:23 | rabeeh | captainigloo: i'm trying to build some thin client stuff on buildroot |
| 17:24 | rabeeh | i'm getting ~25MB uImage that has a kernel and initial ramfs that includes X + freerdp + other stuff |
| 17:24 | rabeeh | how would Angstrom compare to that? |
| 17:24 | rabeeh | Angstrom or OE |
| 17:24 | captainigloo | should be the same |
| 17:25 | captainigloo | for minimal initramfs i'm arround 10MB |
| 17:25 | rabeeh | does Angstrom install selected binaries to the destination rootfs? or installs everything? |
| 17:25 | rabeeh | what does it include? |
| 17:25 | captainigloo | only what's necessary |
| 17:25 | captainigloo | it's close to buildroot |
| 17:25 | captainigloo | doc, dbg, dev is in seperated packages |
| 17:26 | captainigloo | that you can installed if you want |
| 17:26 | captainigloo | efl-nodm-image is 44M for the rootfs compressed |
| 17:27 | captainigloo | and it includes X + e17 + ssh server + avahi |
| 17:27 | captainigloo | look here http://82.227.130.131/updates/deploy/images/cubox/ |
| 17:28 | captainigloo | i get similar results between buidroot and oe |
| 17:28 | rabeeh | it's already bigger |
| 17:28 | rabeeh | i'm on ~25MB uImage+X+freerdp+gtk |
| 17:28 | captainigloo | maybe 5% bigger for oe |
| 17:28 | rabeeh | are you sure? |
| 17:28 | captainigloo | i can check :) |
| 17:28 | rabeeh | maybe you have more stuff like fonts and other things |
| 17:29 | captainigloo | yes because i ask for |
| 17:29 | captainigloo | i have also wireless tools, connman |
| 17:29 | captainigloo | and all kernel modules |
| 17:29 | captainigloo | which is a big part of the image |
| 17:30 | captainigloo | well maybe not on cubox |
| 17:30 | captainigloo | but on x86 it's huge :) |
| 17:40 | rabeeh | Processing meta-angstrom: Current branch angstrom-v2012.05-yocto1.2 is up to date. |
| 17:40 | rabeeh | ??!! |
| 17:40 | rabeeh | captainigloo: i'v just 'git pull' from your repo |
| 17:40 | captainigloo | wich repo ? |
| 17:41 | rabeeh | git://github.com/naguirre/meta-cubox.git |
| 17:42 | captainigloo | i don't understant what angstrom... branch is doing here |
| 17:42 | captainigloo | rabeeh: http://82.227.130.131/updates/deploy/images/cubox/Angstrom-test-image-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-cubox.rootfs.tar.gz |
| 17:43 | captainigloo | this rootfs contains kernel + x + freerdp |
| 17:43 | captainigloo | 20MB |
| 17:43 | captainigloo | compressed |
| 17:43 | rabee | 17:43 * rabeeh checks |
| 17:44 | captainigloo | freerdp seems to depends on pulseaudio |
| 17:44 | captainigloo | and on cups |
| 17:45 | rabeeh | freerdp can do both pulseaudio or alsa |
| 17:45 | rabeeh | aaaargh. another build system to learn |
| 17:46 | rabeeh | how do i check ALL available packages in Angstrom? |
| 17:47 | captainigloo | you can check here http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/ |
| 17:48 | captainigloo | but arch for cubox is not present |
| 17:48 | captainigloo | it's why i added my own mirror for packages |
| 17:48 | captainigloo | http://82.227.130.131/enna-os/ |
| 17:49 | captainigloo | all packages for cubox is in armv7ahf-vfp |
| 17:49 | captainigloo | and in cubox of course |
| 17:49 | captainigloo | it's the packages i build for my images, so it's not exhaustive |
| 17:54 | rabeeh | captainigloo: you date is wrong on the build machine? |
| 17:54 | rabeeh | you are 17177.609445648 seconds in the future :) |
| 18:01 | captainigloo | oh |
| 18:01 | rabeeh | hmm... |
| 18:01 | rabeeh | nop; it's me |
| 18:01 | captainigloo | mardi 5 mars 2013, 18:01:16 (UTC+0100) |
| 18:01 | captainigloo | haha :) |
| 18:02 | captainigloo | Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:02:01 +0100 |
| 18:02 | captainigloo | more readable for you ;) |
| 18:06 | rabeeh | my rtc battery was disconnected. |
| 18:06 | rabeeh | i was on 2062 |
| 18:06 | captainigloo | rabeeh: https://github.com/enna-project/enna-os |
| 18:06 | captainigloo | i keep a trace of all meta-* i need to build my images |
| 18:07 | captainigloo | in src there is gitsubmoules |
| 18:07 | captainigloo | of all meta-* |
| 18:07 | captainigloo | and i override a lot of things in meta-enna btw |
| 18:28 | rabeeh | i tried it. boots and runs freerdp |
| 18:28 | rabeeh | but still it's way too big than buildroot |
| 18:28 | rabeeh | but i think the comparison is not ok; since i'm using uclibc |
| 18:28 | captainigloo | ah yes indeed |
| 18:28 | rabeeh | that's alone 5MB difference |
| 18:29 | captainigloo | for the whole image ? |
| 18:29 | rabeeh | for the uncompressed image, 5MB difference |
| 18:29 | rabeeh | the reason i'm cheap in size is that i want to keep it tftpable |
| 18:29 | rabeeh | the reason i'm cheap in size is that i want to keep it tftpeable |
| 18:30 | captainigloo | ah yes i see |
| 18:31 | rabeeh | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/ doesn't seem to be complete |
| 18:31 | rabeeh | for instance i'm searchig for freerdp but can't find it |
| 18:31 | captainigloo | yep |
| 18:31 | captainigloo | it's maybe too old |
| 18:32 | captainigloo | i'm using angstrom for only few packages |
| 18:32 | captainigloo | i could remove it |
| 18:32 | captainigloo | oe does all the stuff |
| 18:36 | captainigloo | rabeeh: there is no direct link for xserver-xorg-video-dove_0.3.4-1.tar.gz ? |
| 18:38 | rabeeh | http://download.solid-run.com/pub/solidrun/cubox/packages/xserver-xorg-video-dove/ |
| 18:38 | rabeeh | there isn't one |
| 18:38 | rabeeh | i can extract it and place it online |
| 18:38 | captainigloo | it would be easier to make a recipe if you do that :) |
| 18:39 | rabeeh | ok. hold on |
| 18:40 | rabeeh | ok. online |
| 18:40 | rabeeh | http://download.solid-run.com/pub/solidrun/cubox/packages/xserver-xorg-video-dove/xserver-xorg-video-dove-0.1.0/xserver-xorg-video-dove_0.3.4-1.tar.gz |
| 18:40 | captainigloo | thanks a lot ! |
| 18:43 | rabeeh | np |
| 18:43 | rabee | 18:43 * rabeeh already likes Angstrom |
| 18:45 | rabeeh | captiainigloo: which would you say more maintained, buildroot or Angstrom? |
| 18:46 | captainigloo | in fact angstrom is not verry active |
| 18:46 | captainigloo | but OE and yocto are |
| 18:46 | captainigloo | tehre is a release each 6 month |
| 18:46 | captainigloo | and buildroot is also maintained verry well |
| 18:46 | captainigloo | both are a good options |
| 18:47 | captainigloo | i'm using buildroot, for small devices when i don't need X and that fb is enough |
| 18:47 | captainigloo | in other case for bigger distro i'm using OE/yocto/Angstrom |
| 18:49 | rabeeh | to build a custom distro in yocto you need a virtual machine? |
| 18:49 | rabeeh | wtf? are they gone mad? |
| 18:49 | rabeeh | they call it build appliance. sounds like for Windows users? |
| 18:54 | captainigloo | hum, my machine is good enough :) |
| 22:26 | Vegar | how's the CPU usage while playing back video? |
| 22:26 | Vegar | or rather, how much is offloaded to the GPU? |