| 14:55 | airac | hi there, anybody at the keyboard? |
| 14:58 | airac | AFK |
| 15:46 | troulouliou_dev | hi is it the official chan for the tiny cuboxdevice ? |
| 15:52 | dv505 | troulouliou_dev: yes, it is |
| 15:52 | troulouliou_dev | dv505, is flash suported under linux on the cubox ? |
| 16:26 | dv505 | I believe the big package contains a flash package for Debian/Ubuntu |
| 16:26 | dv505 | but it would be a bit outdated |
| 16:26 | dv505 | download here: http://download.solid-run.com/pub/solidrun/cubox/packages/cubox-packages-source/ |
| 20:57 | steev | wow, that is a big package |
| 20:57 | stee | 20:57 * steev downloads, might as well get things set up in gentoo |
| 21:02 | steev | oh wow, you aren't kidding, most of that stuff is from 2011 |
| 22:30 | dv_ | yes, be careful, some of it is there twice |
| 22:30 | dv_ | or more times |
| 22:30 | dv_ | also, soft and hardfp are mixed, and for some libraries, the hardfp versions are not inside. |
| 22:31 | dv_ | if you want to set things up for gentoo, and want to find good package sources for hard/softfp, I recommend you look at my yocto recipes: https://github.com/dv1/meta-cubox |
| 22:31 | dv_ | I had a "fun" time finding these out.. |
| 23:10 | steev | dv_: oh nice, thanks for that, will do so |
| 23:10 | steev | anything that allows me to be a bit more lazy |
| 23:35 | Vooloo | How does this little box stack up against raspberry? I need it for web browsing with linux. |
| 23:37 | _rmk_ | my experience with firefox on it with ubuntu 12.04.1 is... I'd rather use my laptop. It's usable, but I wouldn't say its responsive. |
| 23:37 | Goophy | You should buy something with a bit more CPU-power then. |
| 23:37 | Goophy | The big advantage with the cubox is the graphics and decoders. |
| 23:37 | _rmk_ | much like how I remember mozilla on the StrongARM some 13 years ago. |
| 23:38 | Goophy | The hardkernel odroids are awesome for general purpose. |
| 23:39 | _rmk_ | people seem to use the cubox for two things - either as a server type thing and they don't care about the video/audio on it, or as a video player |
| 23:41 | _rmk | 23:41 * _rmk_ wonders if shesselba played with any of the stuff I pointed him at |
| 23:43 | bencoh | maybe because other uses can be quite a pain sometimes :( |
| 23:44 | bencoh | (like, porting vmeta to your own video/multimedia framework to do interesting stuff ...) |
| 23:45 | _rmk_ | bencoh: one of the problems there is the closed source nature of that stuff, and the forced pipelining that vmeta does. |
| 23:45 | _rmk_ | that more or less precludes it from properly using any of the standard interfaces like va or vdpau |
| 23:46 | _rmk_ | the best I can get out of vmeta plugged into libva is mpeg4 and mpeg2 decoding (not h264) |
| 23:47 | _rmk_ | libva is very much centred around "here is a picture-worth of data, here's the reference frames, give me the decoded picture for this data" |
| 23:48 | Vooloo | Oh well, if it doesnt work for my project I could always use it to stream movies from my PC to my LCD? But that requires wired ethernet right? |
| 23:48 | _rmk_ | I have to fight vmeta by stuffing additional data into it to persuade it to produce a decoded picture - otherwise it will hold on to the decoded frame until it has received the next frame of mpeg data |
| 23:48 | _rmk_ | cubox has two USBs, so you could stick a USB wifi stick in |
| 23:49 | Vooloo | You think the video can keep up? |
| 23:49 | Vooloo | On wireless |
| 23:50 | _rmk_ | depends how good your wireless is. :) |
| 23:50 | bencoh | _rmk_: which means that vmeta is meant to always work with a 1-frame delay ? |
| 23:50 | _rmk_ | bencoh: I would say at least a 1 frame delay :( |
| 23:51 | Vooloo | What do you use to control the xbmc interface? |
| 23:51 | bencoh | isn't it because it doesn't want to output frames it stil needs to decode the following ? |
| 23:51 | bencoh | +frames |
| 23:51 | _rmk_ | bencoh: but then video/audio desyncs seem to be quite common in this age of digital media though, especially broadcast stuff :( |
| 23:52 | bencoh | (uhoh, looks like I can't write properly tonight) |
| 23:52 | _rmk_ | bencoh: I don't think so - vmeta seems to internally want its own reference frames too. |
| 23:52 | bencoh | well, av-syncing an pts/dts stuff can get pretty awfull :) |
| 23:53 | _rmk_ | I don't know why it has this behaviour, because all I can do is observe the behaviour :( |
| 23:53 | bencoh | quite sad :/ |
| 23:53 | _rmk_ | and then try and bash it into being sensible |
| 23:53 | bencoh | yeah |
| 23:54 | _rmk_ | my main focus with the cubox is mostly SD quality stuff - which is why I haven't been that bothered with H264 not working - I've tried several times but I think I'm missing something. |
| 23:55 | _rmk_ | note: this isn't to say other solutions (like gstreamer!) don't work, because people use them! |
| 23:57 | _rmk_ | I run ubuntu 12.04.1 on mine, with rhythmbox for my audio collection and vlc for video stuff - but you need hacks to vlc to get it to run nicely |
| 23:57 | _rmk_ | I hope one day to get those merged up though... |