| 08:26 | NotRelevant | http://minipute.com/2013/09/12/new-radxa-rock-single-board-computer-runs-rockchip-rk3188-90/3246 |
| 08:29 | jnettlet | after my mk808 board imploded I will be steering clear of rockchip soc's for the near future. |
| 08:30 | jnettlet | not to mention their kernel support is limited at best. |
| 08:37 | NotRelevant | Who is behind the radxa project? Radxa is a startup by Tom Cubie and his friends based in Shenzhen. |
| 08:38 | NotRelevant | Tom Cubie=cubieboard, cubieboard2, cubietrack |
| 08:39 | NotRelevant | cubietruck |
| 08:40 | jnettlet | not here. Here we are developing for the Cubox and Cubox-i |
| 08:56 | dv_ | jnettlet: also, mk808 support was pulled from meta-fsl-arm afiak |
| 08:56 | dv_ | *afaik |
| 08:56 | jnettlet | dv_, yeah rockchip is not embracing the Open part of opensource. They also have that horrendous image format. |
| 08:57 | dv_ | hmm not sure if that was in meta-fsl-arm , oe-core , or meta-oe |
| 08:57 | dv_ | but yeah, its a clear warning sign |
| 08:57 | jnettlet | that is only for their internal nand, if you were booting off sdhc it wasn't required. |
| 08:57 | dv_ | in the company I work at, there were some thoughts about getting a rockchip platform |
| 08:58 | dv_ | I now have a clear indication why this is a bad idea |
| 08:59 | dv_ | hmmm |
| 08:59 | jnettlet | I think they are trying to get better. I know they just released some kernel source for one of their SOC's but it is all based on a 3.0.xxx kernel |
| 08:59 | dv_ | how about the solidrun micro-som as a basis for a chromecast-like device? |
| 09:01 | jnettlet | Getting one of the chromecast compatible servers up and running on the C1 or Cubox-i was on my list once we get things stable. |
| 09:01 | dv_ | I actually mean a product |
| 09:01 | dv_ | imagine the microsom in a chromecast-like case |
| 09:01 | dv_ | it is small enough.. |
| 09:04 | jnettlet | I think it could be cool. Just make sure that the hdmi port is at a right angle instead of straight out of the end like a usb fob |
| 09:04 | dv_ | because? |
| 09:05 | jnettlet | it will fit nicer against the television when plugged in. |
| 09:05 | jnettlet | or if plugged in the side will point towards the back of the tv instead of out the side |
| 09:06 | jnettlet | they do make adapters that can be used but having it built into the case would be a nice feature. |
| 09:06 | dv_ | ah. right. |
| 09:07 | dv_ | well, gotta run. ttyl |
| 09:07 | jnettlet | ttyl |
| 10:14 | dv_ | strange to see rabeeh offline |
| 10:15 | dv_ | at some point I thought he somehow evolved into a new type of human being that does not need sleep :) |
| 10:15 | dv_ | but in all seriousness, its good to stay away for a while, to avoid burnout |
| 10:33 | jnettlet | dv_, I think he is doing production bringup for the Cubox-i. Internet access in most those fab plants is very spotty at best. |
| 12:11 | dbsx7 | Jnettlet are you in Edinburgh? |
| 12:25 | jnettlet | dbsx7, nope couldn't make it. |
| 13:13 | lioka | jnettlet: wrt solidrun-imx_3.10.9_1.0.0_alpha -- are you using some out-of-tree dtc ? mine barfs on duplicate labels 'hdmi' |
| 13:14 | jnettlet | lioka, it should be built from the same commits. Let me make sure I didn't miss a commit |
| 13:15 | jnettlet | lioka, nope just test compiled it and worked fine. You are doing. make imx6dl-cubox-i-carrier-1.dtb |
| 13:16 | lioka | make dtbs |
| 13:18 | jnettlet | oh that could break. I have only tested against the cubox-i-carrier-1 config |
| 13:18 | lioka | ouch |
| 13:18 | jnettlet | why ouch? |
| 13:19 | liok | 13:19 * lioka has hope to have one kernel for all imx's |
| 13:19 | lioka | or at least not for just cubox-i* |
| 13:20 | jnettlet | well my personal dev branch is just for the cubox-i/carrier-1 right now because that is all I have. |
| 13:21 | lioka | i see |
| 13:22 | jnettlet | patches are always welcome. |
| 13:25 | lioka | jnettlet: while at it, could you please look at http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=eK89Kkwk ? |
| 13:26 | lioka | include/linux/platform_data/dma-imx.h contains dma_request0/1 although |
| 13:34 | liok | 13:34 * lioka .oO IMX_DMA=y was bad idea |
| 13:44 | Bluerise | solidrun-imx_3.10.9_1.0.0_alpha -- where can I find that? |
| 13:46 | lioka | git://github.com/linux4kix/linux-imx6.git |
| 13:46 | Bluerise | Ah, ok. |
| 16:07 | jnettlet | dbsx7, are you in Edinburg? |
| 16:08 | dbsx7 | Yes |
| 16:09 | jnettlet | how is it? |
| 16:10 | dbsx7 | Good and bad |
| 16:11 | jnettlet | sounds like most conferences |
| 16:12 | dbsx7 | Yeah, Edinburgh is nice though, whiskey, beer |
| 16:12 | jnettlet | sounds like my kind of place |
| 16:13 | dbsx7 | You are close to it, took me 2 days to get here. 35 hours of aeroplanes |
| 16:14 | jnettlet | yeah I have done the Australia flights before. It is a lot of plane |
| 16:15 | dbsx7 | Shesselba is here |
| 16:17 | jnettlet | have you run into _rmk_? he is there also |
| 16:17 | dbsx7 | I have not found him, yet |
| 16:18 | jnettlet | I am sure he is quite busy |
| 16:19 | dbsx7 | How is uboot on the new board? |
| 16:20 | jnettlet | pretty good. wireless keyboards don't like the usb polling used in u-boot, but cabled ones are fine. |
| 16:20 | jnettlet | I am trying to get other testers to tell me if reset is broken or it is just my board. |
| 16:21 | jnettlet | I know that _rmk_ has reboot working which my board won't do either so I think it is my hardware. |
| 16:21 | jnettlet | or maybe something needs to be changed because I have a hardware reset button hooked up. |
| 16:22 | ashemta | bonjour :) |
| 16:22 | jnettlet | hi |
| 16:22 | shesselba | dbsx7, jnettlet: _rmk_ is probably at the kernel summit and not at elce directly |
| 16:23 | dbsx7 | Back to conferring, bye |
| 16:23 | jnettlet | later |
| 16:23 | ashemta | I'm looking for an ARM card compatibe PXE and TFTP client |
| 16:23 | jnettlet | shesselba, I think he was going to hit both. I may be mistaken though |
| 16:24 | shesselba | jnettlet: they are both located here, but I doubt he will be visiting any conference talks |
| 16:25 | jnettlet | ashemta: PXE is a x86 bios thing. I am currently netbooting my Carrier-1 board via tftp |
| 16:25 | jnettlet | shesselba, been to any good talks yet? |
| 16:25 | jnettlet | hopefully they will post some online. |
| 16:25 | ashemta | Carrier-1 board ? |
| 16:26 | jnettlet | ashemta: the developer board for the Cubox-i coming out next month. |
| 16:26 | jnettlet | http://cubox-i.com |
| 16:28 | jnettlet | but most ARM boards run u-boot so support network booting |
| 16:30 | ashemta | jnettlet: for pxe ? |
| 16:31 | ashemta | I failed with u boot. |
| 16:31 | ashemta | you have 'how to for u-boot' -> exemple raspberry pi |
| 16:34 | jnettlet | ashemta: this channel is for cubox development and support. I would recommend you ask for help on a raspberry pi related channel. sorry |
| 16:34 | jnettle | 16:34 * jnettlet goes to feed the dog |
| 16:37 | ashemta | thank yo |
| 16:37 | ashemta | you |
| 16:43 | shesselba | jnettlet: yeah, there are some interesting ones. A lot is about DT and its future handling. |
| 16:43 | shesselba | I'll be visiting a talk about CDF later hopefully |
| 16:47 | jnettlet | shesselba, oh great. Maybe you can talk some sense into them |
| 17:08 | shesselba | jnettlet: DT or CDF? |
| 17:16 | _rmk_ | shesselba: are you in Edinburgh? |
| 17:21 | shesselba | _rmk_: yes |
| 17:22 | _rmk_ | oh... where? :) |
| 17:22 | shesselba | currently at Tim Bird's talk in Tinto, CDF talk from 5.30 on |
| 17:23 | shesselba | if you'll be at the booth crawl later, I can ask JasonC to show me who you are :) |
| 17:24 | _rmk_ | I do have my name badge on :) |
| 17:24 | shesselba | yeah, but possibly some hundred others too ;) |
| 17:25 | _rmk_ | shesselba: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FjbXCAZ4kVg/UlRL-UStZ6I/AAAAAAAAAGM/CbzN3vVgK6k/s207-p-no/google-profile.JPG |
| 17:27 | shesselba | honestly, I constantly fail to recognize people from photos ;) if you are there, I'll find you |
| 17:27 | shesselba | (or let you find) |
| 17:54 | _rmk_ | 15mins break now. |
| 18:03 | ashemta | my is finish |
| 18:28 | jnettlet | rabeeh, how are things going? |
| 18:28 | rabeeh | jnettlet: great |
| 18:28 | rabeeh | finally the two boards are at manufacturing facillity |
| 18:28 | rabeeh | took longer than expected |
| 18:28 | jnettlet | congratulations |
| 18:29 | rabeeh | thanks. |
| 18:29 | rabeeh | we added few features too on the way; if they work fast and we can validate them in a fast manner we will release them in the CuBox-i batches |
| 18:29 | rabeeh | one of them is uhs-i support |
| 18:29 | rabeeh | with 3.3v / 1.8v switchover |
| 18:30 | jnettlet | at some point I may need you to scope out the reset problems I am having on my board. |
| 18:30 | rabeeh | what is this problem? |
| 18:30 | jnettlet | oh that is great. The 3.10 kernel should have support for that. |
| 18:31 | jnettlet | the problem is it isn't working :-) The board goes all the way down...I think, at least the ethernet link light turns off. Then it just sits there. |
| 18:31 | rabeeh | dv_, I just reproduced your u-boot hang. Just typing reset at the prompt will make the board all sorts of unhappy. Hitting the reset button clears it up. |
| 18:31 | jnettlet | nobody else has reported a problem. I am wondering if it is because I have the hardware reset wired up. |
| 18:31 | jnettlet | ah I missed that one. |
| 18:32 | rabeeh | on the older u-boot; reset works |
| 18:32 | rabeeh | actually on your u-boot reset command works too |
| 18:32 | jnettlet | see that isn't working on mine. I wonder if this has been introduced recently. |
| 18:33 | rabeeh | reset works for me; just tried back again |
| 18:33 | rabeeh | there is no special circuitry for resetting the imx6; it's all done internally with in it |
| 18:33 | jnettlet | okay and you don't have a hardware reset button wired up. |
| 18:34 | jnettlet | yeah it is all done with the watchdog. |
| 18:34 | rabeeh | nop |
| 18:34 | rabeeh | i have a wire that i manually short :) |
| 18:34 | rabeeh | but is it the 'reset' u-boot command that doesn't work? |
| 18:34 | jnettlet | I actually have a button soldered between it and ground. |
| 18:35 | jnettlet | yep the reset u-boot command. And reboot under linux which calls similar functionality. |
| 18:35 | rabeeh | pin 7 on the 8pin header? |
| 18:35 | jnettlet | yep pin 7 to pin 6 which should be ground |
| 18:36 | jnettlet | the button works so I assume everything is good. |
| 18:37 | jnettlet | if things are working for everyone else, and I am the only one then I don't care that much. No problem hitting the reset button. Just want to make sure it isn't something that needs fixing. |
| 18:38 | rabeeh | well; it caught my eyes |
| 18:39 | rabeeh | i wonder how this would happen; i'm rebuilding latest u-boot image |
| 18:39 | jnettlet | let me know what you find out. |
| 18:45 | rabeeh | jnettlet: works with latest |
| 18:45 | rabeeh | what do you have else on the board? |
| 18:46 | rabeeh | is it simply 'reset' u-boot command doesn't work? |
| 18:49 | rabeeh | ok. i'm running a reset test every 3 seconds for an hour; let see if it hangs |
| 18:50 | jnettlet | I have my usb wireless dongle, ethernet, and hdmi all plugged in. Serial console and reset button on their pins. Both reset in u-boot and reboot in linux bring the board down to just a single power led and then it just sits there. |
| 18:51 | jnettlet | I have left it like that for about an hour and there is no change. Hitting the hard reset button causes the board to come right back up. |
| 18:51 | jnettlet | as I was telling _rmk_ earlier. I may just have "that board" The one problem child in the lot. |
| 18:52 | jnettle | 18:52 * jnettlet will test your u-boot now to see if it resets |
| 18:54 | jnettlet | rabeeh, okay your 2009 u-boot hangs on this board also. |
| 18:55 | rabee | 18:55 * rabeeh is worried |
| 18:55 | rabeeh | i hate those one problem child in the lot |
| 18:55 | rabeeh | btw - your blown fuse also was reproduced by tomlohave |
| 18:56 | jnettlet | oh really?!?! |
| 18:56 | rabeeh | yeah |
| 18:56 | rabeeh | what we have on the board is 2A fuse; which should be enough fully running the imx6 and 2 usb drives |
| 18:57 | rabeeh | but in his case; it was really weird |
| 18:57 | rabeeh | he unplugged some wifi usb dongle and blown the fuse |
| 18:57 | jnettlet | I didn't unplug anything. |
| 18:57 | rabeeh | even an esd discharge shouldn't blow a fuse |
| 18:58 | jnettlet | although I think even after soldering my usb power connector was janky. |
| 18:58 | rabeeh | if it's 5V then it's 5V |
| 18:58 | jnettlet | it sheared off the board this past week. Just the repetition of lifting up the board popping out the sdhc card, put it down, pick itup put it back in. |
| 18:59 | rabeeh | i mean there is a circuitry on the C1 that beyond 6-7V it will short the DC-in circuit and force blowing the fuse |
| 18:59 | rabeeh | this is a protection for someone putting a power supply that is not 5V (typically the next step is 9V) |
| 19:00 | jnettlet | yeah. I actually have a couple of random boards that have 6v power supplies |
| 19:00 | rabeeh | 6V should work too |
| 19:00 | rabeeh | well... it might blow your USB drives though :) |
| 19:00 | rabeeh | but the micro som and all the power supplies on it will work with 6V |
| 19:03 | jnettlet | Well I have gotten yocto to boot. And am running a Linaro 12.04 image on my board. Sorting out vivante graphics. They are being problematic but should have that done tomorrow. |
| 19:04 | rabeeh | jnettlet: are you planning to have accelerated X too? |
| 19:05 | rabeeh | is it armhf? |
| 19:14 | jnettlet | rabeeh, yep accelerated X |
| 19:14 | rabeeh | jnettlet: it would be great if you can have a wiki page about the steps |
| 19:14 | jnettlet | I am merging Vivante, Marvell, my and _rmk_'s works into a single driver |
| 19:15 | rabeeh | there will be tons of distro porters that want that information |
| 19:15 | jnettlet | it will apply to the Cubox, Cubox-i, and XO 1.75 and 4 |
| 19:15 | rabeeh | jnettlet: the kernel driver? |
| 19:15 | jnettlet | kernel and userspace. |
| 19:15 | jnettlet | with ifdef's where necessary |
| 19:15 | jnettlet | :-) |
| 19:16 | jnettlet | and this will be temporary until we write a proper opensource kernel driver to replace galcore. |
| 19:17 | jnettlet | busy busy busy. |
| 19:17 | jnettle | 19:17 * jnettlet has to grab dinner now. ttyl |
| 19:17 | rabeeh | bon apetit |