| 00:08 | taz_ | good night |
| 10:37 | tazou | hello :) |
| 10:41 | tazou | hi rabeeh , can I ask you about my u-boot install please ? I'm blocked at kernel compilation (details here http://www.solid-run.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1566&start=10#p8367) thanks a lot |
| 11:42 | jnettlet | _rmk_, yes I enjoyed the movie thoroughly. |
| 13:00 | _rmk | 13:00 * _rmk_ has audio via pulseaudio working... having given the driver S24_LE support (because its then easy to stuff the IEC958 bits into the buffer) |
| 13:01 | _rmk_ | it seems that pulse's IEC958 conversion is buggy |
| 13:02 | jnettlet | shocking...NOT! |
| 13:02 | jnettle | 13:02 * jnettlet apologizes long standing PA angst still lingers |
| 13:03 | _rmk_ | maybe this is why many of the howtos say about setting alsa up to encode to ac3 before squirting out via spdif |
| 13:05 | _rmk | 13:05 * _rmk_ needs to talk to shesselba about the clock setup on the si5351 on cubox... can we arrange for both audio and video clocks to run off the same PLL but with different multisynth settings... |
| 13:06 | _rmk_ | jnettlet: the kernel code for HDMI audio output is... a massive... 487 lines (plus a small number of hooks into imx-hdmi.c) |
| 13:07 | jnettlet | very nice. |
| 13:08 | _rmk_ | freescale's solution: 1755 lines. |
| 13:10 | _rmk_ | that's 1437 lines in imx-hdmi-dma.c, 131 in imx-hdmi-dai.c and about a hundred each in imx-hdmi.[ch] in sound/soc/imx/ |
| 13:11 | tazou | _rmk_, jnettlet are how in the project cubox please ? |
| 13:17 | jnettlet | tazou, I am fine but don't have much time to answer questions right now. |
| 13:17 | jnettlet | is it something quick? |
| 13:21 | MikeSeth | tazou: -lcrypt |
| 14:26 | tazou | jnettlet, ok i understand. it's about this : http://www.solid-run.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1566&start=10#p8367 |
| 14:27 | tazou | si MikeSeth ok I must try : make -lcrypt ? |
| 14:27 | tazou | so* |
| 14:29 | tazou | MikeSeth, " make -lcrypt" go to the same error :x |
| 14:30 | MikeSeth | tazou: not make, pass it to gcc as an option |
| 14:30 | MikeSeth | just google the error message |
| 14:33 | tazou | MikeSeth, yes I google it, but I try to write in the Makefile it "export CFLAGS=-lcrypt" but i have the same error |
| 14:44 | tazou | i try to add "LIBS += -lcrypt" in the Makefile, but same result |
| 14:46 | jnettlet | tazou, that would be LDFLAGS="-lcrypt" |
| 14:51 | tazou | jnettlet, i put : export LDFLAGS="-lcrypt" in the Makefile but, i have the same error :( i'm trying a "make clean && make" to see if it change |
| 15:41 | tazou | jnettlet, i put export LDFLAGS="-lcrypt" in the Makefile, then try "make" , but i have the same result :/ |
| 15:41 | tazou | do you have an idea please ? :) |
| 15:41 | jnettlet | tazou, then obviously that Makefile is not bringing in the LDFLAGS |
| 15:42 | tazou | ah |
| 15:42 | jnettlet | you should probably pass --debug or -d to make to get debug output and see what link command it is actually running |
| 15:42 | tazou | ok |
| 17:16 | jnettlet | so my capacitors finally show up. I soldered them in, mounted the board, turned on the power heard the hard drive spin up. Look at the front and the lcd is busted :-( |
| 17:17 | jnettlet | My guess is that after it "died" from the blown caps the owner kicked it out of frustration as there is no external damage just a spidered crack from the middle out. |
| 17:18 | jnettlet | well for 100 dkk it was worth a shot. |
| 17:23 | _rmk_ | ok, new feature... now have the hdmi audio driver parsing the SADs so it knows what the HDMI sink is capable of supporting. |
| 17:24 | jnettlet | oh nice. |
| 17:25 | _rmk_ | and I'm not calling this imx-hdmi-audio.c, but dw-hdmi-audio.c... calling the hdmi interface on this "imx" is insane given that the documentation talks in places about this being a Synopsis DesignWare IP block. |
| 17:26 | _rmk_ | plus, dw is less characters to type :) |
| 17:26 | _rmk_ | <-- lazy |
| 18:01 | dv_ | _rmk_: can the hdmi interface handle 3D? |
| 18:01 | dv_ | I know the VPU can |
| 18:03 | tazou | i'll be back |
| 18:04 | tazou | but i don't find why LDFLAGS is not take in count |
| 18:04 | tazou | :/ |
| 18:04 | tazou | see you soon :) |
| 18:04 | _rmk_ | dv: yes it can, I'm not able to test that though |
| 18:05 | _rmk_ | let me correct that... the hardware claims it is capable of supporting 3d. |
| 18:45 | jnettle | 18:45 * jnettlet is glad 3d is dying a quick death |
| 18:46 | _rmk_ | hdmi audio is still working :) |
| 18:49 | jnettlet | what is the testing material of choice? |
| 18:50 | jnettlet | also, can it do audio only or do you need to video to accompany it. |
| 18:53 | _rmk_ | the testing material has been a selection of Moby, a load of movie themes followed by some Iron Maiden, and currently Blackmore's Night Ghost of a Rose. |
| 18:54 | _rmk_ | and yes, like any HDMI, you need the HDMI link running to get audio... I've told the TV to turn off the LCD so I don't know if it's tried to blank (it probably has) but because imx-drm is rather crappy, it never actually shuts video output down properly |
| 19:02 | jnettlet | well some hdmi phy's have the ability to fill the video with dummy frames |
| 19:04 | _rmk_ | depends whether the idea of turning video off is to tell the attached device to power down or not... |
| 19:13 | _rmk_ | jnettlet: yep it just shut video down and audio stopped |
| 19:53 | jas-hacks_ | rabeeh: Many thanks got the C1 |
| 20:03 | taz_ | hi , back :) |
| 20:21 | tenedos | hi all |
| 20:22 | tenedos | jas-hacks: are you there? |
| 20:24 | jas-hacks_ | jas-hacks_: yes |
| 20:25 | tenedos | jjas-hacks_: just started a private chat so i will ask there as i half typed it anyway |
| 20:30 | tenedos | basically looking for a ubuntu or arch image for the C1 |
| 20:32 | jas-hacks_ | tenedos: You should be able to take my ubuntu rootfs and run against the 4.1.0 kernel. |
| 20:33 | jas-hacks_ | tenedos: It should boot to console mode. |
| 20:34 | tenedos | sadly i need the xwindows. seems no one is there yet for the C1 |
| 20:35 | jas-hacks_ | tenedos: I'll work on that, once I get uboot + kernel running. |
| 20:35 | jas-hacks_ | tenedos: Is your C1 the imx6s? |
| 20:36 | tenedos | jas-hacks_:i have not done that much development on linux and never tried to port an OS to new hardware but why is it so hard with the C1 when many other imx6s images are out there for other boards. I thought it would have been similar or the same or is that an ARM thing where they need everything done from scratch for each ARM board? |
| 20:37 | tenedos | jas-hacks_:It is a imx6solo |
| 20:38 | _rmk_ | jas-hacks: if you've been following either here or on the g+ carrier1 stuff... I have v3.12 running on the carrier-1, using imx-drm and as of today, hdmi audio, with my cubox (armada) xorg driver running unaccelerated against that. |
| 20:38 | tenedos | jas-hacks_: I have a CuBox-i4pro on order as my target box but i just want to test some software can run on arm first |
| 20:41 | sver | 20:41 * svere expects a german customs limbo: Leipzig - Germany Clearance delay |
| 20:41 | svere | :-( |
| 20:42 | jas-hacks_ | tenedos: The board is fairly new, but it is nots that difficult to get what you want. However GPU stuff might not be that poweful on the imx6solo. |
| 20:44 | jas-hacks_ | _rmk_: That's good progress, I going to test the fsl kernel first to test how good/bad the GPU stuff is under X on the solo. |
| 20:45 | tenedos | jas-hacks_:Yea the GPU stuff i am not super worried about just yet as my target is a more powerful box but i am attempting to write an application that uses video and an embedded web browser. The video i want to check more that the app runs not that it plays ok as i don't really expect that on this hardware but the embedded browser i am trying to use is fine on linux but not sure it will work on ARM |
| 20:47 | jas-hacks_ | tenedos: From previous testing on my other mx6 boards, firefox and chromium did work well the gstreamer plugin. |
| 20:50 | tenedos | jas-hacks_: Thanks for that info i was looking at something else but gstreamer was also on my radar and something i am planning to play with as well as possibility a better solution. In my case i am trying to make the embedded browser the UI and it fully controls the player. I don't think a standard browser will let me do that |
| 20:52 | tenedos | can we take advantage of http://boundarydevices.com/linaro-raring-images-4-1-0-kernels-mx6/ and http://boundarydevices.com/mx6-video-acceleration-raring-debian/ at all. I know it is a different board but they are the same chip for GPU and CPU. I cna understand why you need to custom program other things on the board but don't really get why you can't use others work on hte CPU and GPU when they are the same CHIP |
| 20:54 | tenedos | i stupidly thought i could just boot them uo lol. quickly found out i had no idea how to get the C-1 uboot to boot that let alone get it to boot into xwindows |
| 20:59 | _rmk_ | I don't think anyone has looked at porting the video/gpu stuff forward yet. |
| 21:00 | _rmk_ | as far as the gpu stuff goes, at some point soon (once I've finished the hdmi audio stuff) I'll yank the vivante gpu driver I cleaned up for the dove cubox across, and see whether it behaves with my userspace. |
| 21:01 | jas-hacks_ | tenedos: The boundary stuff works, but it's not a solution for you as it stands. |
| 21:02 | tenedos | _rmk_: Nice. sorry to ask but are you Russell King? If so i have been following you on G+ |
| 21:02 | _rmk_ | /whois works wonders :) Yes. |
| 21:02 | tenedos | jas-hacks_: why is that? |
| 21:02 | Bluerise | svere: I had one too, with the Carrier-One... |
| 21:03 | jas-hacks_ | tenedos: it only works with the simple fsl app 'gplay' on that rootfs. |
| 21:03 | Bluerise | svere: In the end I sent them link to the raspberrypi and said "it's similar to that one". |
| 21:03 | tenedos | _rmk_: sorry i don't think i have been on IRC in 20 years and i am really having a heard time remembering how to do everything :) |
| 21:03 | Bluerise | svere: Still like 20 Euro customs... |
| 21:07 | tenedos | jas-hacks_: ok well i will have to keep waiting for now and trying to learn as much as i can. I have to go to work now but thanks for answering my questions |
| 21:23 | svere | Bluerise: did you get a notice of what to do next? |
| 21:24 | Bluerise | svere: I did get a mail (not email) from them, telling me to send them the "real" offer |
| 21:24 | Bluerise | or, order confirmation |
| 21:24 | Bluerise | the one in the letter is about 0.01$, which they somehow don't believe... |
| 21:24 | Bluerise | you're getting a C1, right? |
| 21:24 | svere | Bluerise: maybe i ask rabeeh for an invoice over 0 EUR |
| 21:25 | Bluerise | They don't believe that. |
| 21:25 | svere | Bluerise: yeah /me gets a C1 |
| 21:25 | Bluerise | I send them two links http://cubox-i.com/carrier-one/ and http://www.watterott.com/de/Raspberry-Pi-Model-B |
| 21:26 | Bluerise | told them, it's that one, it's not a real product, but it's similar to the raspberry |
| 21:26 | svere | Bluerise: but to be honest, I'd rather pay 50EUR to solidrun then pay 20EUR to those buggers |
| 21:26 | Bluerise | Heh |
| 21:26 | Bluerise | You'll still have to |
| 21:26 | Bluerise | or, let's say, 50 * 0.19 + somethingsomething |
| 21:27 | jas-hacks_ | svere: which country are u in? |
| 21:27 | svere | well 19% on 50 EUR = 9.50EUR |
| 21:27 | svere | jas-hacks_: germany |
| 21:27 | Bluerise | I was donated a Utilite. $219 for the product, $67 shipping, 55 Euro customs |
| 21:27 | svere | lol |
| 21:27 | svere | what a wonderful world |
| 21:28 | jas-hacks_ | svere: I got a C1 shipped to the uk, no customs :) |
| 21:28 | Bluerise | customs in Germany really really sucks. |
| 21:28 | svere | jas-hacks_: so i tell them to send it to you as a proxy *g* |
| 21:28 | Bluerise | at least for us |
| 21:28 | svere | Bluerise: true |
| 21:28 | jas-hacks_ | svere: ;) |
| 21:28 | Bluerise | of course, Germany itself gets the money ;) |
| 21:29 | svere | and spends it very.... ahh let's not start this discussion :-) |
| 21:30 | sver | 21:30 * svere will wait for his mail (on paper) and expects quite some delay :-( |
| 21:31 | Bluerise | hehe |
| 21:31 | Bluerise | it was like 10EUR "handling" of customs (for UPS) |
| 21:31 | Bluerise | took a day or two |
| 21:32 | Bluerise | another 4 years of merkel, hooray |
| 21:33 | svere | :-) |
| 22:15 | jas-hacks_ | jnettlet: nice uboot , it outputs to hdmi |
| 22:21 | jas-hacks_ | rabeeh: why no reset / on switch? |
| 23:18 | _rmk_ | damn, the carrier-1 has stopped giving me output |
| 23:19 | _rmk_ | ... at 1080p |
| 23:20 | svere | _rmk_: hardware? |
| 23:20 | _rmk_ | don't know yet. 1080p @30Hz works |
| 23:20 | _rmk_ | but not at 50Hz |
| 23:20 | _rmk_ | nor 60Hz |
| 23:21 | svere | is this a clock thingie again? |
| 23:22 | _rmk_ | don't know yet... let me dig out the freq counter and check what the tmds clock is generating |
| 23:22 | _rmk_ | I had problems which looked very similar up in edinburgh... 1080p @ >= 50Hz stopped working |
| 23:22 | _rmk_ | but that was on the cubox not the carrier-1 |
| 23:27 | _rmk_ | 1080p @30Hz: 74.24496MHz 1080p @50Hz: 148.48993MHz (though the ovened crystal in the counter hasn't had time to properly warm up yet) |
| 23:28 | svere | looks reasonable |
| 23:29 | _rmk_ | yea, it's certainly within acceptable tolerance |
| 23:35 | svere | time to go to bed. CU |
| 23:44 | _rmk_ | and now it's stopped producing any video at any resolution, but audio works. |
| 23:45 | _rmk | 23:45 * _rmk_ thinks... IPU lockup. |
| 23:45 | _rmk_ | thankfully, I can now unload imx-drm and reload it |
| 23:47 | _rmk_ | ... assuming I haven't broken it with my audio hacking of course :) |