IRC log of #cubox of Sat 16 Nov 2013. All times are in CET < Back to index

10:19 rabeeh ok. things config failed on 566MHz
10:19 rabeeh that's about 40% more than it was configured for.
10:28 rabee 10:28 * rabeeh reruns with configuration optimized for 533MHz DDR as a starting point.
10:53 rabeeh reached 600MHz and still running
11:00 rabeeh reached 621MHz and still running
11:04 suihkulokki ricing ;)
11:06 rabeeh didn't fail yet. passed 635MHz :)
11:11 rabeeh ok. failed now on 654 MHz
11:12 rabeeh this means on 400MHz we have about 60% up to 648MHz for overclockers to play with :)
11:17 _rmk_ rabeeh: so why did it fail at 566MHz?
11:18 _rmk_ rabeeh: also, how are you testing it?
11:21 rabeeh the first configuration that failed on 566mhz is because it was configured to run at 400MHz (all the cas latency and other parameters) and i was able to stretch it to 566MHz
11:22 rabeeh _rmk_: the second configuration was for 528MHz and I was able to stretch it to 648MHz
11:23 rabeeh so for overclockers we have a huge place to work with
11:23 rabeeh it will help a bit on the processor side; but the huge difference will be on the GPU and VPU
11:24 rabeeh mainly on the GPU since in xbmc main gui with dirty regions disable i measured around 2GB/sec transfer which is almost the maximum phyiscal limitation of DDR 32bit when running at 400MHz clock rate (800Mbps)
11:24 jnettlet rabeeh, how much extra power are you chewing up in those configurations?
11:25 rabeeh jnettlet: from 400MHz to 648MHz the addition was 288mW
11:25 jnettlet not too bad
11:25 rabeeh sorry. 388mW
11:26 rabeeh if you run at 400MHz and stretch it out; this is pure GPU performance
11:26 rabeeh i mean this is pure performance addition that increments to fps
11:27 jnettlet does xbmc run the fps uncapped?
11:28 rabeeh yes
11:28 rabeeh they have some cap in low power mode
11:30 jnettlet too bad the ipu couldn't handling 1920x1080 then we could have xbmc render to a lower res and scale it up
11:32 rabeeh jnettlet: that's what most 32bit ddr based xbmc machines do
11:33 jnettlet makes sense.
11:33 rabeeh we have tried that also on first CuBox; but the upscaler was so crappy
11:47 _rmk_ rabeeh: you're talking about the upscaler in the LCD controller?
11:47 rabeeh yes.
11:48 _rmk_ hmm, I find that it fine if you turn on vertical interpolation
11:48 _rmk_ I think the framebuffer driver doesn't (or didn't)
11:48 rabeeh it has both linear and bilnear interpolation; but they didn't look good enough
11:50 jnettlet how much are you scaling also? Large scales may require dual pass scaling.
11:50 _rmk_ well, it is better than watching broadcast SD upscaled HD
11:56 jnettlet rabeeh, should I put the new ddr config you sent out yesterday into u-boot?
12:00 rabeeh 720p to 1080p
12:01 rabeeh jnettlet: yes please
12:01 rabeeh if you don't have time i'll take it
12:01 jnettlet I can probably get it done this weekend.
12:02 rabeeh jnettlet: if you would like to spend some time; i think spl is more important
12:03 rabeeh i'll take the ddr configuration (and prepare and ifdef for overclockers)
12:03 jnettlet okay I will poke at that a bit later.
17:18 rabeeh jnettlet: i have the patch ready on your u-boot
17:18 rabeeh i'll push it through github
17:25 hste rabeeh: got the device. thanks. Havn't had time to play with it yet. Can't find my usb-sdcaBut it looks cool.
17:26 hste rabeeh: is it oc-friendly without heatsink?
17:27 rabeeh yes.
17:27 rabeeh should work without issues
17:28 rabeeh the product cubox-i1 power is even lower :)
17:29 hste :) my quad-dongle got hot on heavy gpu work. cpu at 1.2Ghz was no problem but heavy gpu usage I got temp warnings
19:37 rabeeh hste: did you upgrade the heatsink on the processor?
19:38 hste rabeeh: on my gk802 I addede
19:38 hste rabeeh: on my gk802 I added a heatsink
19:39 rabeeh hste: have a picture?
19:42 hste rabeeh: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7RFDJW3q4H9YzFVaWtCMDlnYVk/edit?usp=sharing
19:43 rabeeh hste: is it really touching the imx?
19:44 rabeeh do you have thermal grease?
19:44 hste rabeeh: yes but I kept the foam tape between
19:44 rabeeh hehe
19:44 rabeeh that foam is an insulator
19:45 rabeeh you need minimum thermal resistance
19:45 rabeeh try putting the heatsink directly over the imx6
19:45 rabeeh if there is a short then put another metal in between and make sure thermal greese is really filled
19:46 rabeeh or you can buy online thermal pads that are electrically isolators but conduct thermal
19:46 rabeeh (typically in the z-axes; which is where you want it to conduct)
19:47 hste yes I know :)
19:48 hste but it was just an easy hack and way better than it was before mod :)
19:49 hste before it ws just the foam that connected to the case...
19:50 jas-hacks_ rabeeh: how was ddr3 testing? manage to reduce heat dissipation
19:51 hste rabeeh: does the solo run under 1.2Ghz ?
19:52 rabeeh jas-hacks_: depends how you measure and which benchmark
19:52 rabeeh hste: i run on 1ghz
19:52 rabeeh i haven't overclocked the processor
19:52 rabeeh only memory :)
19:54 jas-hacks_ can imx6q be over-clocked on ddr?
19:54 rabeeh i haven't tried that yet.
19:54 rabeeh imx6q clock is already 533Mhz
19:55 hste rabeeh: how high have u clocked it stable?
19:55 rabeeh jas-hacks_: any idea how to change screen resolution on the ubuntu image you have sent?
19:55 rabeeh it doesn't look like xrandr is working
19:56 jas-hacks_ only way is to pass value in uboot
19:56 rabeeh hste: around 650mhz clock rate
19:56 jas-hacks_ using boot.scr
19:58 jas-hacks_ gk802 used samsung memory, so interesting to see how they perform in cubox-i
19:59 hste rabeeh: do u think 650 would be stable on most of the c1 devices?
20:00 rabeeh hste: no
20:01 rabeeh jas-hacks_: do you have exact model?
20:01 rabeeh we are using samsung too (not on the C1 you have)
20:01 rabeeh the C1 you have is hynix but we switched to samsung
20:01 rabeeh (production version)
20:02 hste ok
20:03 jas-hacks_ K4B2G1646C-HCH9 DDR3-1333
20:08 jas-hacks_ there were/are lots of thermal problems with gk802 but I think was more related to the CPU model
20:09 rabeeh what do you mean?
20:09 rabeeh you mean SoC version?
20:11 rabeeh jas-hacks_: those are crappy ddr chips too
20:11 rabeeh idd7 is ~250mA
20:12 jas-hacks_ Soc version
22:05 _rmk 22:05 * _rmk_ wonders what the maximum temp of the imx6s is
22:19 jas-hacks_ i think it's 105
22:20 jas-hacks_ but kernel should stop it going over 90
22:20 _rmk_ only if you have a kernel which can do throttling which mine can't
22:21 _rmk_ it sits around 75C while rhythmbox runs (with no gpu)
22:21 jas-hacks_ it should get hotter through GPU throttling