| 12:25 | niteye | what a good day |
| 12:28 | _rmk_ | niteye: what are the errors? |
| 12:33 | sickness | morning all :) |
| 12:41 | niteye | i fixed it somehow |
| 12:41 | niteye | i started from scratch, make clean, blahblah, added the things i want, now iptables works |
| 12:42 | niteye | now i have an issue with fuse, but more on that after lunch ,brb |
| 12:49 | rabeeh | niteye: what is the issue with fuse? |
| 12:49 | rabeeh | which kernel are you using? |
| 13:06 | niteye | kernel 3.6.9, as suggested from the wiki, there may be something wrong with my modules but when i modprobe fuse i get: |
| 13:06 | niteye | ERROR: could not insert 'fuse': Exec format error |
| 13:08 | niteye | also unrelated, i use the cubox as NAS with an external hdd attached to it with esata; modern hdd's spin-down when inactive though i wonder whether the kernel with cubox_defconfig supports this and if not, which options i should look into to get it enabled |
| 13:09 | _rmk_ | niteye: and what are the last few lines of dmesg ? |
| 13:09 | rabeeh | niteye: if the drive spins down by itself; then any I/O should wake it up |
| 13:10 | rabeeh | typical SCSI timeout is > 15 seconds; which is more than enough for the drive to spin up back again |
| 13:10 | rabeeh | in general if you keep spinning down and up the drive all the time then you might kill the drive sooner than you think |
| 13:10 | _rmk_ | niteye: HD spindown is something that's been supported for a long time, even back to the days of PATA. It needs enabling via hdparm. |
| 13:10 | niteye | ah yeah there it is i think, since recompiling the kernel (for iptables) the random numbers after the kernel number changed, and i just renamed the folder with the modules but apparently that doesnt fly well with the modules themselves |
| 13:11 | _rmk_ | niteye: the "random numbers" are probably the short git commit ID, so you built a different kernel |
| 13:11 | _rmk_ | but as you're not giving actual information in the form of examples, it's hard for us to be sure |
| 13:12 | niteye | well the numbers are the same but now it looks for the same path but with "-dirty" appended to it |
| 13:12 | niteye | 3.6.9-36966-g1be2c76-dirty |
| 13:12 | niteye | fuse: version magic '3.6.9-36966-g1be2c76 preempt mod_unload ARMv7 p2v8 ' should be '3.6.9-36966-g1be2c76-dirty preempt mod_unload ARMv7 p2v8 |
| 13:12 | _rmk_ | -dirty means the source tree was modified (Eg, a patch was applied which isn't committed) |
| 13:12 | _rmk_ | yep. your fuse module was built for a different kernel to the one you're trying to insert it into |
| 13:13 | _rmk_ | your running kernel had some source code modification |
| 13:13 | niteye | weird, i have no recollection of getting another kernel, i suppose i better go and redownload it and recompile from scratch |
| 13:13 | _rmk_ | your fuse module was built for a kernel without that modification |
| 13:14 | niteye | okay thanks! |
| 13:16 | _rmk_ | the best thing to do is: if you rebuild the kernel, make sure the modules have also been rebuilt, and always install both the kernel and modules at the same time. |
| 13:17 | _rmk_ | if you build with 'make zImage' or 'make uImage' the modules won't automatically be rebuilt. |
| 13:17 | niteye | yep i figured, but there arent that many modules i use apparently, iptables is built-in the kernel, and everything i want seems to work and lsmod shows zero entries (at the exception of fuse which i now know how to fix) |
| 13:19 | niteye | i like how easy it is to swap kernels, delete the old, replace with the new uImage and reboot and presto, windows would nag you to death that the file is in use and cant be deleted |
| 13:20 | _rmk_ | you missed ... new uImage "and modules" and reboot |
| 13:21 | niteye | yep :-) seems like until i tried fuse im not using any modules at all heh |
| 13:31 | niteye | does rabeeh work for solidrun? |
| 13:32 | jnettlet | yep |
| 13:36 | niteye | ah i think i somehow got a kernel from kernel.org and the same version from rabeeh's git while experimenting and thats how i ended up with same versions but different patches |
| 13:39 | niteye | is support for jumbo frames necessary? transfer speed seems to already match maximum disk write speed anyways |
| 15:01 | rabeeh | niteye: what are the speeds you have? |
| 15:03 | MikeSeth | rabeeh: I got a mail saying my cubox will be shipped on 3th |
| 15:04 | MikeSeth | can't waaaaaait |
| 15:04 | rabeeh | MikeSeth: great :) |
| 15:04 | MikeSeth | http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/catalog-reveals-nsa-has-back-doors-for-numerous-devices-a-940994.html |
| 15:04 | rabeeh | remind me which model? |
| 15:04 | MikeSeth | Your market just became 10 times bigger |
| 15:04 | MikeSeth | rabeeh: the basic one |
| 15:04 | rabeeh | i1? |
| 15:04 | MikeSeth | I also ordered an sd card |
| 15:04 | MikeSeth | yeah |
| 15:04 | MikeSeth | i'll play with it a bit and then probably grab a bunch more to hack on and hand out as gifts |
| 15:05 | MikeSeth | looking for a HDMI KVM already :P |
| 15:05 | rabeeh | ? |
| 15:05 | rabeeh | VDI? |
| 15:06 | rabeeh | xfreerdp already have neon optimization |
| 15:06 | MikeSeth | no, a physical switch |
| 15:07 | MikeSeth | though yeah I guess VDI could work |
| 15:18 | niteye | i have a 1gbit network, without jumbo frames already seems fast enough (comparable to my 'real' computers) |
| 15:19 | niteye | raspberry pi is the cubox for poor people |
| 15:19 | sickness | niteye: eheh |
| 15:28 | rabeeh | niteye: cubox-i is 45$ !!! |
| 15:28 | rabeeh | cubox-i1 |
| 15:29 | niteye | what is the difference with the basic model? |
| 15:29 | niteye | or is it the basic model that went down in price? |
| 15:32 | niteye | when i got my cubox, i needed a small low-power thing to use as homeserver and looked into raspberry pi (the only one i knew of at the time) |
| 15:33 | niteye | but it didnt even have a housing, and biggest dealbreaker, only 100mbit network max, cubox was a bit more expensive but solved both my problems at once |
| 15:34 | sickness | to me the selling point of the cuboxpro over all the rest was the 2Gb ram, that's a really useful edge over other similar devices =_) |
| 15:38 | niteye | thats the amount i have on my laptop, i never manage to exceed it anyways despite watching movies etc, only virtual machines suck up lots of ram with me :) |
| 15:39 | niteye | and the virtual machines themselves dont really use much ,its just that the program claims the whole amount the virtual machine has "isntalled" |
| 15:39 | niteye | so im getting to an age where i dont understand anymore why a regular pleb buys a laptop with 8 gigs of ram in it |
| 15:40 | MarcusVinter | Only for gaming I would imagine. |
| 15:42 | niteye | all my games are still 32bit so i can put in all the rams i want, it wont help :-( |
| 15:43 | MarcusVinter | Lol age of empires. |
| 15:45 | sickness | well some mothern games are 64bit and do use ram *a lot*, for example BF3 |
| 15:46 | MarcusVinter | Yeah. I think even Minecraft can use >2GB |
| 15:46 | MarcusVinter | lol |
| 15:46 | MarcusVinter | with far render distances. |
| 15:47 | MarcusVinter | Solid run could make minecraft block shaped devices that are didicated minecraft clients. Probably make a bit of cash off that. |
| 15:47 | MarcusVinter | dedicated* |
| 15:49 | niteye | the most modern game i have are GTA4 and sims3, (2008 and 2009), both are 32bit executables |
| 15:50 | niteye | well making minecraft block shaped devices is something theyve already covered rofl |
| 15:50 | niteye | just needs some texture |
| 15:51 | MarcusVinter | I know, but they'd need to have right angled corners not rounded. lol |
| 15:51 | MarcusVinter | Thats about it. |
| 15:51 | MarcusVinter | I really think people would buy them as a dedicated minecraft client they can play in their living room. Minecraft has a huge community with a lot of cash. |
| 15:52 | MarcusVinter | With java and minecraft preinstalled. |
| 16:14 | MikeSeth | which reminds me |
| 16:15 | MikeSeth | is the wifi module something that can be added to a wifiless cubox later? |
| 16:15 | MarcusVinter | Anyone got any advice? I wrote a u-boot-cubox-i2u.imx file that jon gave me onto the sd card with dd but its still not booting on my i2u... |
| 16:15 | MarcusVinter | Any ideas why? |
| 16:16 | MarcusVinter | The geexbox image worked. |
| 16:28 | rabeeh | MarcusVinter: which u-boot are you using? |
| 16:28 | rabeeh | sources? |
| 16:29 | MarcusVinter | One jnettlet built and gave me,. |
| 16:30 | rabeeh | you can build yours from github |
| 16:30 | rabeeh | there is a script that builds all variants |
| 16:31 | MarcusVinter | Oh nice. cheers. |
| 16:31 | MarcusVinter | Strange... I just built geexbox to test it and the cubox didnt boot. |
| 16:31 | MarcusVinter | And it worked previously.. |
| 16:32 | MarcusVinter | The front light doesnt come on. |
| 16:32 | MarcusVinter | But some dimmer light is on inside. |
| 16:32 | rabeeh | no front light means no u-boot |
| 16:32 | MarcusVinter | Ah... |
| 16:32 | rabeeh | how do you flash your u-boot? |
| 16:32 | MarcusVinter | with dd |
| 16:32 | rabeeh | how? |
| 16:33 | rabeeh | http://imx.solid-run.com/wiki/index.php?title=Building_the_kernel_and_u-boot_for_the_CuBox-i_and_the_HummingBoard#U-Boot |
| 16:33 | rabeeh | sudo dd if=u-boot.imx of=/dev/sdX bs=512 seek=2 |
| 16:33 | rabeeh | like that? |
| 16:33 | MarcusVinter | dd if=uboot.imx of=/dev/sdb bs=512 seek=2 conv=vsync |
| 16:33 | MarcusVinter | But i wrote this on from the geexbox image that i for from here http://cubox-i.com/install-os-on-micro-sd-flash-card/ with win32diskimg |
| 16:33 | MarcusVinter | Yeah, like that. |
| 16:34 | MarcusVinter | but run logged in a root so no sudo. |
| 16:34 | rabeeh | hmm... i wonder |
| 16:34 | rabeeh | want to try my u-boot? |
| 16:34 | MarcusVinter | Yes please! |
| 16:35 | rabeeh | http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/72661517/tbr/u-boot_mx6_cubox-i2ultra.imx |
| 16:35 | rabeeh | soon we will get rid of the four u-boots for the different machines. |
| 16:36 | MarcusVinter | All in one? |
| 16:36 | rabeeh | yes |
| 16:36 | rabeeh | like the kernel |
| 16:36 | rabeeh | there is one kernel for all |
| 16:36 | MarcusVinter | Oh nice. that will be a lot easier. |
| 16:36 | MarcusVinter | You going to include c1 in that? |
| 16:38 | MarcusVinter | Oh I think my sd might be corrupt. That could be why. |
| 16:38 | MarcusVinter | dmesg spewed out some errors. |
| 16:39 | MarcusVinter | I hope its nothing to do with me writing /dev/zero to the whole thing. |
| 16:48 | _unreal_ | I'm trying to figure out how to get my cubox updated |
| 16:48 | _unreal_ | I dont know if I want to run the ubuntu, geexbox, or fedora builds |
| 16:48 | _unreal_ | I have a cubox developers platform |
| 16:53 | niteye | personally i'm against ubuntu |
| 16:55 | MarcusVinter | How come? |
| 16:57 | niteye | the UI changes too often, its impossible to really learn and be proficient at it like windows or linux commandline (or simpler gui's), also in my exerience ubuntu users are the linux version of apple worshippers, trying to convert everyone to "try linux" and only know ubuntu because it was the most user friendly but dont know other distros also have caught up in terms of user friendliness |
| 16:58 | niteye | but the biggest dealbreaker for me is that for a long time, the default ubuntu desktop background looked like a macro-image of brown fecal matter |
| 16:59 | niteye | then in the next update, it was more runny brown matter |
| 16:59 | niteye | and then they finally made it purple and orange, but the image is still burned in my memor |
| 17:14 | MarcusVinter | I know what you mean there. But it is one of the best maintained so its a bit of a toss-up/. |
| 17:37 | niteye | cloning from github is so slow |
| 17:37 | _unreal_ | ubuntu I dont mind but I dont use it mainly. I prefer fedora |
| 17:37 | _unreal_ | or I modify ubuntu to have a fedora style gnome gui |
| 17:39 | niteye | time for my bath |
| 17:39 | MarcusVinter | anual bath |
| 17:40 | niteye | something like that, if it were regular i wouldnt bother announcing it :D |
| 17:40 | MarcusVinter | Thats what I thought. hahaha. |
| 19:18 | MarcusVinter | Thanks Rabeeh. That u-boot version worked. |
| 19:18 | rabeeh | great |
| 19:21 | MarcusVinter | does the I2 still have self powered USB to serial port RS-232 controller? |
| 19:21 | MarcusVinter | Because I connected it via usb to my laptop and its not detected? |
| 19:22 | rabeeh | i2 doesn't have usb to rs-232 |
| 19:22 | MarcusVinter | is there any way to debug on it? |
| 19:27 | MarcusVinter | Oh sorry. found the drivers now. |
| 19:35 | MarcusVinter | There must be something wrong with my cable, its not detected as hardware when i plug it in. |
| 20:09 | niteye | the next cubox should have a casing made of lead. when i put it on my desk the mere weight of the cable can pull the cubox off the desk, i have to put something heavy on it |
| 20:32 | niteye | are there any differences between using the latest official kernel and rabeeh's git? |
| 20:34 | niteye | http://www.solid-run.com/mw/index.php/Debian_ArmHardFloatPort_on_CuBox#1GB_Ram the 1GB_Ram entry seems to be gone from this page on the wiki, how come? is adjusting defconfig no longer the recommended way of disabling the framebuffer ? |