| 23:59 | MikeSeth | if you want to experiment, manually write the SPL and uboot image to the card and see if that helps, maybe something funny with android image, as almost nobody uses those |
| 23:59 | nikitis_ | Is there like xbmc image? |
| 00:00 | MikeSeth | I don't know, but there's geexbox one |
| 00:00 | MikeSeth | I only do debian |
| 00:01 | MikeSeth | http://imx.solid-run.com/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Distribution |
| 00:02 | MikeSeth | my suggestion, get an okay from solidrun to open the case and check for loose connectors, and failing that, replacement :( |
| 00:02 | nikitis_ | naw i'm not opening it |
| 00:02 | nikitis_ | I'll just request a replacement |
| 00:03 | nikitis_ | Who do I send to? |
| 00:03 | MikeSeth | [email protected] |
| 00:03 | nikitis_ | to request replacement |
| 00:03 | nikitis_ | I'm downloading debian image |
| 00:03 | nikitis_ | gonna try that |
| 00:04 | MikeSeth | worked for me no problem |
| 00:05 | nikitis_ | If the debian works for me then it may be android/card |
| 00:06 | xraxor | Re: GeexBox lastest builds |
| 00:06 | xraxor | try this build, its working better then OE |
| 00:07 | xraxor | although i cant cigure out how to set up SAMBA |
| 00:07 | xraxor | http://imx.solid-run.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=335&start=10#p2735 |
| 00:07 | MikeSeth | I used to run domain controllers on samba |
| 00:07 | MikeSeth | fun times |
| 00:08 | xraxor | cool, i heard i have to install the package, not sure, im waiting on XBian image |
| 00:09 | MikeSeth | oh, usually just installing the samba package works, or smbclient if you dont need to run a server |
| 00:09 | MikeSeth | i dunno about geexbox shell integration etc |
| 00:10 | nikitis_ | how do I extract .xz in linux? |
| 00:10 | nikitis_ | tar doesn't do it by default |
| 00:10 | MikeSeth | install unxz |
| 00:10 | xraxor | yep, im not used to GBox, i installed samba server but no luck, will try again soon |
| 00:10 | xraxor | i want to make my hdd available for my pc |
| 00:11 | MikeSeth | oh, you need to create a share in samba config |
| 00:12 | MikeSeth | and you need to make sure the broadcast address on the network interface is correct |
| 00:12 | MikeSeth | otherwise samba goes doodoo |
| 00:15 | nikitis_ | Writing debian img now |
| 00:17 | xraxor | thnks |
| 00:35 | nikitis_ | debian didn't work |
| 00:35 | nikitis_ | I'm going to try using my microSD Card that's class 4 that is used in my RaspberryPi |
| 00:35 | MikeSeth | well, sorry to hear that |
| 00:35 | nikitis_ | Backing it up first |
| 00:36 | nikitis_ | sudo dd if=/dev/sdc conv=sync,noerror bs=512K | gzip -c > RaspberryPi.img.gz |
| 00:36 | nikitis_ | Cause i know this card works in my Pi, so this way I can rule out bad card |
| 00:39 | MikeSeth | wish you luck, I'm hitting the sack |
| 00:40 | nikitis_ | ok |
| 00:40 | nikitis_ | Thanks for the help |
| 00:41 | nikitis_ | I will RMA this if this card does not work |
| 00:43 | _rmk_ | okay, that's my cubox (== original dove) running 3.13 |
| 04:37 | [1]Mav | Hi. I'm not sure if I'm in the right channel, but I'm looking for really basic noob help :) |
| 04:41 | _dab_ | can i use linaro gcc4.8 to build uboot as armhf? |
| 09:41 | MikeSet | 09:41 * MikeSeth pokes rabeeh |
| 09:47 | jnettlet | MikeSeth, rabeeh is not going to be very available on IRC for the next couple of days. If it is sales/support and needs immediate attention emailing solidrun would probably be best. |
| 09:49 | jnettlet | dv_, how is your Yocto work being accepted? |
| 09:49 | dv_ | slowly |
| 09:49 | jnettlet | :-) |
| 09:49 | dv_ | a few small issues are still left to do. oneliners. |
| 09:49 | MikeSeth | jnettlet: no, I just wanted to throw him a bit of news |
| 09:50 | MikeSeth | friend in comcast says comcast ordered a bunch of cuboxes for evaluation |
| 09:50 | MikeSeth | they are going to be playing with them today |
| 09:50 | dv_ | comcast? |
| 09:50 | jnettlet | really? |
| 09:50 | MikeSeth | yeah |
| 09:50 | dv_ | what are they doing with the cubox-i ? |
| 09:50 | MikeSeth | no idea, apparently something network related |
| 09:50 | dv_ | hopefully the cuboxes will help their customer care :) |
| 09:51 | jnettlet | dv_, right now US cable providers are bleeding customers due to "cord cutting" My guess is they are looking for something to sell as an IPTV only |
| 09:52 | dv_ | ah, cord cutting is this phenomenon where more and more people get rid of cable and watch streaming video instead? |
| 09:52 | jnettlet | yep. |
| 09:53 | MikeSeth | I haven't had a TV for a decade, local cable/satellite companies in Israel are unbelievable twats |
| 09:53 | dv_ | well... the cubox-i would make a great netflix client ... :P |
| 09:53 | jnettlet | MikeSeth, encourage your friend to tell the comcast guys that they should join this channel if they have questions. |
| 09:53 | MikeSeth | jnettlet: already did ;) |
| 09:53 | jnettlet | thanks |
| 09:54 | jnettlet | dv_, I am still stress testing but yesterday I ran the entire day with my HB powered by my computers USB port |
| 09:54 | jnettlet | haven't tried the TV yet. |
| 09:54 | MikeSeth | I'm hanging on a private IRC network with these fellows that I've known for many many years, and suddenly one says, finally comcast cuboxes arrived |
| 09:54 | MikeSeth | my jaw dropped a bit |
| 09:54 | dv_ | and what was running on the HB? |
| 09:54 | jnettlet | xbmc at 720p |
| 09:54 | dv_ | playing some video |
| 09:54 | dv_ | MikeSeth: actually, the form factor of the cubox-i would make for a great set top box |
| 09:55 | jnettlet | played some but didn't sit down and watch yet. |
| 09:55 | dv_ | only problem: hard drive |
| 09:55 | jnettlet | dv_, everything is "cloud" now |
| 09:55 | MikeSeth | dv_: true, though I still insist on dressing them like Portal companion cubes |
| 09:55 | jnettlet | so your storage/pvr is upstream |
| 09:55 | dv_ | jnettlet: recorded transport streams can get very large very quickly |
| 09:55 | MikeSeth | I very much liked the idea somebody threw here of a 'docking station' for a cubox |
| 09:55 | dv_ | MikeSeth: hah, companion cube is a splendid idea |
| 09:56 | dv_ | perhaps rabeeh should talk to valve, to dress the cubox-i as a steam machine :) |
| 09:56 | MikeSeth | dv_: I suggested the same |
| 09:56 | dv_ | for casual games of course ... I doubt it would be able to handle any recent games |
| 09:56 | jnettlet | dv_, you obviously haven't seen what qualifies as "HD" for cable companies in the US. They compress the hell out of the stream, to the point it looks awful. |
| 09:57 | dv_ | jnettlet: so, few mbps? |
| 09:57 | MikeSeth | jnettlet: no such problem with torrents though :P |
| 09:57 | dv_ | here the signal is mpeg2, and rather large bitrate |
| 09:57 | dv_ | a few are using h264 afaik |
| 09:57 | dv_ | and many of them use interlacing, unfortunately |
| 09:57 | jnettlet | dv_, I think 3Mbps is Max |
| 09:58 | dv_ | nah, I get much bigger bitrates here |
| 09:58 | jnettlet | but that is super compressed mpeg2 |
| 09:58 | dv_ | funny thing is, they could get away with 3 Mbps if they were using h264.. |
| 09:59 | dv_ | even typical run-of-the-mill set top box hardware like the STM SoCs can handle h264 |
| 10:00 | jnettlet | that is probably what they are looking to do. Comcast mostly uses horrendous motorola boxes that are terribly inefficient. |
| 10:00 | jnettlet | they throw out lots of heat. |
| 10:00 | dv_ | it is a pity that the set top box sector is almost entirely made of cheap and low-grade products |
| 10:00 | jnettlet | It is also possible that with Google owning Motorolla, Google is trying to push chromecast/Android TV their way and Comcast wants to do their own thing to keep control of the install platform |
| 10:02 | jnettlet | That would be a major step for SolidRun if Comcast is interested. That is a huuuuuge install base. |
| 10:03 | dv_ | it would also expose the cubox-i more |
| 10:03 | dv_ | or at least the microsom |
| 10:03 | dv_ | my wish is that comcast does something more or less open |
| 10:03 | jnettlet | _rmk_, in the latest errata FSL acknowledges the horrible product of scaling with the 2D stretchblit. |
| 10:04 | jnettlet | dv_, bwahahahaha |
| 10:04 | jnettlet | US cable companies don't do anything open. |
| 10:05 | jnettlet | dv_, when you were playing around with your sync'd audio streaming did you try out the RT PREEMPT patchset at all? |
| 10:06 | jnettlet | I am wondering if I should merge that into a separate branch on my 3.10 kernel |
| 10:06 | jnettlet | seems like it could be useful for some Cubox-i developers |
| 10:09 | davorin | even a microsd slot is too open... |
| 10:10 | davori | 10:10 * davorin has a similar plan... |
| 10:10 | davorin | here in .ch one of the major cabletv and internet provider also offers iptv |
| 10:11 | jnettlet | don't want hackers to slurp their horrible compressed streams off the box and pirate it on the torrent sites |
| 10:11 | davorin | which is included in the subscription... |
| 10:11 | davori | 10:11 * davorin has a cbale receiver which stores the movies decrypted on harddrive and are extractable via ftp (o; |
| 10:11 | jnettle | 10:11 * jnettlet is interested to see if we can get widevine to work with the HBO nordic app on the CBi |
| 10:11 | davorin | soi want to use the cubox-i as iptv receiver for their service... |
| 10:12 | davorin | yes, widevine... |
| 10:12 | davorin | got the libs and shitlaods of sources... |
| 10:12 | davorin | but for documentation freescale asks now for a premium, platin, gold-coated support contract with silver linings.. |
| 10:13 | davorin | don't even know what level 1 and level 3 means in widevine drm... |
| 10:14 | davorin | the old days in finland it was easy...just needed a pic16c54 to de-invert the color-signal for the nordic premium channels (o; |
| 10:14 | davori | 10:14 * davorin has to bug the freescale representitive again.. |
| 10:14 | jnettlet | that is probably for the certificate's. The library is useless without the widevine signed cert |
| 10:15 | davorin | well..in the browser you just have the plugin... |
| 10:23 | davorin | which company r u working for jnettlet? |
| 10:24 | jnettlet | davorin, my own. Cubox-i is just a nice community project. |
| 10:24 | davorin | (o; |
| 10:24 | jnettlet | When I got involved I was consulting for OLPC and Cubox/Cubox-i share the same graphics drivers. |
| 10:25 | jnettlet | We have been slowly building up a great community for supporting Marvell/FSL chipsets here. |
| 10:28 | davorin | i started this stuff when the uCsimm came out, remember? (o; |
| 10:29 | jnettlet | barely :-) |
| 10:29 | davorin | then i did some stuff on arc cpu on the fujitsu mb86h20 |
| 10:30 | davorin | some u-boot stuff for analog devices for their bf533 uclinux board.... |
| 10:30 | davorin | as the company frmo india fecked it up totally (o; |
| 10:30 | davorin | you could enter a command and the whole flash was wiped clean (o; |
| 10:31 | davorin | then went back to .ch when internet industry picked up again... |
| 10:32 | davorin | in the old eunet days it was fun...work during day... |
| 10:32 | davorin | and in the evening the backbone was our playground ;-) |
| 10:35 | jnettlet | right now I am kind of fishing around for new work. I ended up moving to Denmark with my wife and this country is not exactly a hotbed of innovation. |
| 10:35 | davorin | been in copenhagen once... |
| 10:36 | davorin | was disappointed as only a small street looks like what you see everywhere on postcards... |
| 10:36 | davorin | amsterdam was better |
| 10:36 | jnettlet | it is kind of like going back in time 20 years. |
| 10:36 | dv_ | the big reveal: all these postcards depict the same street |
| 10:36 | davorin | and fecking expensive in denmark..the only country where we swiss people can say it is expensive (o; |
| 10:37 | jnettlet | tell me about it. |
| 10:37 | davorin | and the fecking mermaid is hard to find 'cause so small (o; |
| 10:37 | davorin | we should start together a kickstarter or indiegogo project.. |
| 10:38 | davorin | collecting money for supporting linux platforms (o; |
| 10:38 | davorin | think a guy did collect money for just porting kivy to rpi |
| 10:38 | dv_ | kickstarter is overkill for that |
| 10:38 | dv_ | just set up something for donations |
| 10:38 | dv_ | like wikipedia |
| 10:38 | davorin | they struggle i thought with donations.. |
| 10:39 | dv_ | well, kickstarter is no magic wand that gives you more money either :) |
| 10:39 | dv_ | ok, the project may be more visible |
| 10:39 | dv_ | but kickstart stuff has a defined goal |
| 10:39 | jnettlet | dv_, it seems like all you need is a video with lots of zooming and multi-racial people smiling |
| 10:39 | dv_ | cubox-i development is more like an ongoing effort |
| 10:39 | davorin | ah bountysource... |
| 10:39 | dv_ | jnettlet: you mean the same 5 stock people I see everywhere? |
| 10:40 | jnettlet | dv_, yep :-) |
| 10:40 | jnettlet | no white men |
| 10:40 | davorin | https://www.bountysource.com/fundraisers/143-kivy-on-raspberry-pi |
| 10:40 | dv | 10:40 * dv_ thinks about html5 when it comes to zooming |
| 10:41 | jnettlet | oh these people have sent me emails. |
| 10:41 | davorin | bounty? |
| 10:42 | jnettlet | yeah, I think most OSS developers have gotten an email asking to participate |
| 10:42 | davorin | not me...though i admit i sometimes encrypt php (o; |
| 10:42 | davorin | not only it runs faster then... |
| 10:45 | davori | 10:45 * davorin wonders if freescale rep answers my complain.... |
| 10:46 | jnettlet | dv_, are you finding the ipu is the bottle-neck decoding on the MX6? |
| 10:46 | jnettlet | mk01, did that image finish up last night? |
| 10:47 | davori | 10:47 * davorin coffe and :-! |
| 10:47 | dv_ | hm I did not test the IPU in terms of performance yet |
| 10:48 | dv_ | didnt bottleneck during regular use though (= deinterlacer & color space conversion) |
| 11:03 | davorin | any1 got a miipc in their hands? |
| 11:06 | davorin | xbmc should have a nntp client to directly watch movies from giganews (o; |
| 11:07 | davorin | how is regulation in denmark? |
| 11:07 | davorin | are you allowed to download movies? |
| 11:08 | jnettlet | only if you own them. But it is not actively monitored |
| 11:08 | jnettle | 11:08 * jnettlet off to walk the dogs |
| 11:08 | davorin | here it is allowed...if you don't own them... |
| 11:09 | davorin | just uploading is a no-go |
| 12:37 | _dab_ | can i use linaro gcc4.8 to build uboot as armhf? |
| 12:37 | davorin | uboot as armhf? |
| 12:38 | davorin | not sure uboot has any math code which makes sense to accelerate... |
| 12:38 | davorin | but you can use armhf toolchain to build everything... |
| 12:38 | _dab_ | ok |
| 12:39 | davorin | i'm using gcc version 4.7.2 (Debian 4.7.2-5) |
| 12:42 | _dab_ | this machine is ubuntu. with linaro installed. I am having trouble getting rabeehs uboot to build. 'fatal error: stdint.h: No such file or directory' |
| 12:43 | davorin | can you give the last gcc line when this error is thrown? |
| 12:43 | davorin | something fecked with makefile settings |
| 12:43 | davorin | why you want to build uboot yourself? |
| 12:43 | _dab_ | gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -include /home/cubox/i4pro/u-boot-imx6/include/libfdt_env.h -idirafter /home/cubox/i4pro/u-boot-imx6/include -idirafter /home/cubox/i4pro/u-boot-imx6/include2 -idirafter /home/cubox/i4pro/u-boot-imx6/include -I /home/cubox/i4pro/u-boot-imx6/lib/libfdt -I /home/cubox/i4pro/u-boot-imx6/tools -DCONFIG_SYS_TEXT_BASE=0x17800000 -DUSE_HOSTCC -D__KERNEL_STRICT_NAMES -D_GNU_SOURCE -pedan |
| 12:43 | _dab_ | tic -o bmp_logo.o bmp_logo.c -c |
| 12:48 | _rmk_ | I think it should be picking stdint.h up from the compiler |
| 12:48 | _rmk_ | which'll be something like /usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabihf/4.7/include/stdint.h |
| 12:48 | davorin | yes it should... |
| 12:48 | _dab_ | I want to build it so I can pxe boot by default |
| 12:49 | davorin | not arm |
| 12:49 | davorin | your hostcc |
| 12:49 | _dab_ | I want to build it so I can pxe boot by default |
| 12:49 | davorin | bmp_log is compiled with host compiler... |
| 12:50 | _rmk_ | _dab_: what machine are you building on? |
| 12:50 | _dab_ | mintlinux 16, x86 |
| 12:51 | _rmk_ | there's nothing on that gcc command line which would prevent it searching standard paths |
| 12:51 | _rmk_ | do you have /usr/include/stdint.h ? |
| 12:53 | _dab_ | _rmk_: yes, but (new machine) let me check something else |
| 12:55 | _rmk_ | if you get really stuck... there's always strace -f -e open gcc ... :) |
| 12:55 | _rmk_ | or if that doesn't enlighten, strace -f -e open,access gcc ... |
| 12:56 | _dab_ | _rmk_: thanks |
| 13:03 | davorin | try compile a simple hello world... |
| 13:03 | davorin | #include |
| 13:03 | davorin | #include |
| 13:03 | davorin | int main() |
| 13:03 | davorin | { |
| 13:03 | davorin | printf("Hello world..."); |
| 13:03 | davorin | } |
| 13:03 | davorin | gcc -o test test.c |
| 13:03 | davorin | ./test |
| 13:14 | _dab_ | _rmk_ davorin thanks it finding it now, my stupid error |
| 13:17 | davorin | well..still sort of monday (o; |
| 13:17 | _rmk_ | things only start getting better after Wednesday when the weekend approaches :) |
| 14:07 | davorin | hmm...need to redesign my uclinux website...and fpga as well... |
| 14:20 | _rmk_ | your uclinux website runs on a fpga? :) |
| 14:21 | mhoney_work | will drilling holes in the top of the cubox i4pro help with the heat? |
| 14:23 | davorin | no....not on fpga...i could though.... |
| 14:23 | davorin | have to revive fpga.ch again....some time...and redesign uclinux.net |
| 14:24 | davorin | drill a hole? it certainly doesn't help warranty... |
| 14:24 | davorin | and btw: my i4p is luke warm...even doing movie playback... |
| 14:24 | davorin | old electronics rule: if you can touch a component for 1 seconds, then it's cold enough (o; |
| 14:26 | davorin | what are you running it gets so hot? |
| 14:32 | jnettlet | mhoney_work, no! |
| 14:32 | jnettlet | mhoney_work, the cubox-i is designed so the outer plastic will get a bit warm |
| 14:34 | jnettlet | If you are doing full on wifi/ethernet/video decoding/3d and stressing all the cores of the soc it will feel warm on the outside but that is fine. |
| 14:35 | davorin | if it gets warm/hot it is a good sign heat can escape ;-) |
| 14:47 | davorin | hmm...people still looking for round lcd on my site (o; |
| 15:13 | _dab_ | for those worried about heat, my i4pro has been working ok in 30-35C ambient. |
| 16:13 | jnettlet | mk01, let me know when you have an image ready. I have some time laid out for testing later this evening |
| 16:26 | xraxor_ | jnettlet: when he kinda disappears hes hard working at something :) |
| 17:09 | davorin | welcome rabeeh (o; |
| 17:15 | _rmk_ | Rabeeh won't be around for a few days, that's probably just his client reconnecting |
| 17:16 | davorin | ah right..he's soldering new hb (o; |
| 17:17 | jnettlet | dv_, have you seen this patch for doing low latency intra-refresh h264 with the vpu https://community.freescale.com/message/342913#342913 |
| 19:44 | MikeSeth | apparently there's an imx6 based DYI laptop |
| 19:50 | davorin | hmm.... |
| 19:51 | davorin | as ugly as the rpi laptop? |
| 20:13 | jnettlet | MikeSeth, yep I will be getting my dev board in a couple of weeks. |
| 20:28 | Bluerise | jnettlet: Oh, how? |
| 20:28 | Bluerise | jnettlet: Did you ask someone to print/assemble it for you? |
| 23:51 | jnettlet | Bluerise, it is just the dev boards, no screen or case. I have worked with Bunnie before on his Chumby project and he is looking to tap into the MX6 community |
| 23:52 | jnettlet | they just want to move the prototype's forward before starting their crowd-funding campaign |
| 23:52 | Bluerise | jnettlet: I wasn't expecting much more actually |
| 23:53 | Bluerise | I was already expecting that the cases/screen stuff is being done during the crowd-funding campaign |
| 23:57 | _rmk_ | jnettlet: at least we get the basic support into mainline... hopefully Linus should pull sometime in the next 48 hours |
| 23:57 | jnettlet | _rmk_, saw your G+ post that is exciting. I was worried that was all going to get stuffed until .14 |
| 23:58 | _rmk_ | I kind'a made sure it went in... I'm not sure whether the rest of Shawn's stuff will do, but we're relatively independent of it |