IRC log of #cubox of Thu 30 Jan 2014. All times are in CET < Back to index

00:49 Coburn alright so
00:49 Coburn another day at the office and time to try to get HDMI output on the cubox
00:49 Coburn if _rmk_ is around, I would appreciate his advice
02:57 Coburn okay, so compiling the amanda patches seems to be ok, but now I got configure: error: Package requirements (libdrm_armada >= 2.0.0) were not met:
02:57 Coburn
02:57 Coburn No package 'libdrm_armada' found
02:57 Coburn hmm
03:14 Coburn fixed that, got another error
03:14 Coburn ../../src/vivante_accel.h:57:14: error: field 'batch_list' has incomplete type
03:14 Coburn ../../src/vivante_accel.h:99:14: error: field 'batch_node' has incomplete type
03:21 Coburn shot rmk an email... hope I get this fixed, otherwise it's game over for the cubox, I'd rather go intel atom
05:14 _dab_ question: uboot only sees my usb kbd if it is in the top slot, is this expected behaviour?
05:37 Coburn _dab_: there's a bug in stock uboot
06:04 jnettlet _dab_, that is fixed in the rabeeh's repo. I can build you a new set of binaries if you want.
06:09 jnettlet Coburn, _rmk_'s drivers are built against the old V2 version of the vivante driver. It is on my list to the latest vivante drivers working on both the old and new platforms so we can upgrade.
06:17 _dab_ Coburn: I am using rabeeh's repo
06:19 jnettlet _dab_, what does usb tree report?
06:20 _dab_ when it works I can tell you, when it does not I cannot because I don't have a keyboard to interrupt
06:20 jnettlet _dab_, are you using a boot.scr? you can add it there.
06:20 Coburn _dab_: there's a bug in the usb logic in uboot that a person called dbsx fixed. He supplied me with a patched bootloader.
06:21 Coburn what happens with the bug is anything on port 1 hangs usb startup
06:21 _dab_ Sorry, talking cubiox-i
06:21 Coburn oh
06:21 Coburn jnettlet: please save my sanity and suggest me a kernel that has a working xorg driver ;)
06:21 Coburn I'm *this* close of saying nope to the cubox and going intel atom
06:22 _dab_ jnettlet: +-2 Human Interface (1.5 Mb/s, 100mA) ...
06:22 jnettlet Coburn, 3.0.35 for now. I am working on getting my 3.10 kernel out but my time has been limited this week.
06:22 Coburn alright. can you provide me with links, jnettlet?
06:23 Coburn if so I'll download and get the sucker working
06:25 jnettlet https://github.com/SolidRun/linux-imx6
06:25 Coburn jnettlet: I'm talking about CuBox Dove.
06:26 Coburn Not imx6, unless your kernel is a hybrid compatible with both, jnettlet
06:26 jnettlet Coburn, oh then you want to use _rmk_'s kernel tree.
06:27 jnettlet just make sure you add it to an existing linux-stable repo or else it crushes his bandwidth.
06:27 Coburn jnettlet: where is rmk's kernel tree? I need a tarball
06:27 Coburn I'm not a git user as per such
06:28 jnettlet there is no tarball available for it.
06:28 _dab_ jnettlet: verfied problem by inserting two usb keyboards and after turning the cubox the right way up, it is the top one that never works
06:28 jnettlet _dab_, okay that makes more sense.
06:28 Coburn jnettlet: is it on github or can I git clone it?
06:29 _dab_ other than that and no GUI cursor, uboot seems pretty good
06:29 Coburn wait, uboot has a GUI now?
06:29 _dab_ on cubox-i
06:29 jnettlet Coburn, his latest changes are here. http://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/cgit/linux-cubox.git/?h=drm-armada-fixes
06:29 jnettlet but like I said add that as a remote for a clone of linux-stable. You can mirror that repo from github
06:30 Coburn uh
06:30 jnettlet _dab_, don't let it fool you. u-boot is pure evil
06:31 Coburn I'm not sure if I follow.
06:31 Coburn So what do I clone, and then what do I add as a remote?
06:31 jnettlet You clone linux-stable from github. Then add _rmk_'s repo as a remote
06:32 _dab_ jnettlet: like the link it just needs to be handled very carefully http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_snake
06:33 jnettlet _dab_, barebox will be much nicer. Including booting direct to linux so we aren't initializing devices twice.
06:34 jnettlet should cut 3-5 seconds off the boot time
06:34 Coburn jnettlet: I really am confused.
06:34 Coburn I'm trying to reread your instructions, but I'm getting lost.
06:34 _dab_ I ventured in barebox sometime ago on sheevaplugs and gave up and went back to uboot. I hope it has improved
06:35 jnettlet Coburn, I am pretty busy right now and can't give you my full attention. I will try and get back to you in an hour or so.
06:35 Coburn jnettlet: ok, I'll be around.
08:23 Coburn jnettlet: you still busy?
08:29 jnettlet Coburn, yeah a lot going on this morning
08:29 Coburn ok
08:29 Coburn well, could you email instructions to me?
10:59 _rmk_ and they're in. :)
11:01 Bluerise :o
11:05 dv_ cubox-i patches got accepted into meta-fsl-arm , so now cubox-i and HB are supported in OE \o/
11:05 dv_ many thanks to otavio
11:10 MikeSeth nice
11:11 _rmk_ Coburn: I do need to push out some updates for the dove drm Xorg driver which should resolve that build error (caused by stuff changing in X)
11:11 Coburn _rmk_??
11:13 _rmk_ ... and now pushed
11:13 _rmk 11:13 * _rmk_ wonders if that "_rmk_??" was an auto-response
11:23 xraxor_ what does that mean dv_ ?
11:25 dv_ xraxor_: cubox-i rootfs cann now be built with yocto and openembedded
11:25 dv_ and openembedded is big
11:26 xraxor_ thanks, i almost thought was OpenELEC you meant
11:28 _rmk 11:28 * _rmk_ fails to find Coburn's email
11:56 jnettlet _rmk_, I think Coburn needs help getting a Cubox kernel greater than 3.10 going. My morning has been too busy to give detailed instructions.
11:56 Coburn jnettlet??
11:56 jnettlet _rmk_, I take that back it does look like a horrible auto-responder
11:57 jnettlet very annoying
11:57 xraxor_ Coburn
11:58 jnettlet or maybe not
11:58 jnettle 11:58 * jnettlet is just confused
11:58 xraxor_ lol maybe hes drunk
11:58 _rmk_ it does look like an autoresponder - probably needs more than just the nick though
11:59 xraxor_ wend is near, it sucks tho i have sore throat dont think will be having beers at the wend
11:59 _rmk_ jnettlet: well, when Coburn is around...
11:59 Coburn _rmk_??
11:59 _rmk_ yep, definitely an autoresponder
11:59 xraxor_ lol
12:00 jnettle 12:00 * jnettlet will not address Coburn any longer then
12:00 jnettlet interesting it does not pick that up.
12:00 _rmk_ xraxor: honey and vinegar to help sooth that
12:00 _rmk_ jnettlet: I think it's timed so it doesn't respond too often
12:00 _rmk_ because if I mention something else with Coburn in...
12:00 Coburn _rmk_??
12:00 _rmk_ hmm.
12:01 _rmk_ let's try that again, Coburn
12:01 _rmk_ yep Coburn doesn't respond now
12:01 Coburn _rmk_??
12:01 _rmk_ hmm.
12:01 jnettlet is it every other Coburn
12:01 jnettlet or Coburn
12:01 jnettlet and Coburn
12:01 _rmk_ Coburn must have something following maybe?
12:01 Coburn _rmk_??
12:01 jnettlet strange
12:01 _rmk_ Coburn
12:01 _rmk_ Coburn .
12:01 Coburn _rmk_??
12:02 Coolgeek Coburn hello
12:02 Coburn Coolgeek??
12:02 _rmk_ Coburn.
12:02 Coburn _rmk_??
12:02 _rmk_ yep, definitely needs something following.
12:02 Coolgeek it's so useless
12:03 _rmk_ yep, and I can't see the point of saying "nick??"
12:03 jnettle 12:03 * jnettlet loves the fact we just spent 5 minutes trying to reverse engineer what a stupid autoresponder was doing
12:04 Coolgeek so refreshing jnettlet :p
12:04 _rmk_ but we still haven't answered the biggest question of all: will coburn's autoresponder blend?
12:04 Coburn _rmk_??
12:07 Coolgeek can we make an autoresponder to the Coburn's one ?
12:07 Coburn Coolgeek??
12:07 _rmk_ jnettlet: the errors he posted last night looked like trying to build it against a newer Xorg, and the version he has doesn't have the compat-api stuff in
12:07 jnettlet _rmk_, yeah but he doesn't even have a kernel with galcore included best as I can tell
12:08 _rmk_ yea, I still need to sort out the last reminants of the non-gpl'd headers in that
12:08 jnettlet I am definitely going to start another repo that allows galcore to be built outside the kernel as a module. It will make integration with upstream kernels a bit easier
12:09 jnettlet _rmk_, don't bother. I am testing the latest galcore release across the platforms today and will then re-implement my mrvl/fsl specific changes
12:09 lioka jnettlet: that would be great
12:10 _rmk_ jnettlet: that's whta I'm hoping for :)
12:10 jnettlet My end of Jan kernel push date is upon me and I need to just get stuff out.
12:10 _rmk_ what
12:10 dv_ jnettlet: just tested the newer drivers. they seem to have a similar issue like the one fixed by your CEA mode patch
12:10 dv_ that is, in X11 I get 1024x768 at most with a DVI monitor
12:11 jnettlet dv_, the KMS drivers?
12:11 dv_ are they kms?
12:11 jnettlet which kernel?
12:11 dv_ I am talking about the 4.6.9 ones
12:11 dv_ kernel is 3.0.35 with backported patches
12:11 jnettlet oh, yeah the galcore changes don't effect it. It is the IPU/HDMI/EDID code that is restricting that.
12:12 dv_ this: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/meta-freescale/2014-January/006720.html
12:12 dv_ ah perhaps its the backported patches then that cause this
12:12 jnettlet yeah that is just supporting the latest Vivante userspace binaries
12:17 otavio dv_: jnettlet: I think this is a regression of X11 driver
12:17 otavio I pinged someone internal at FSL and he is looking at it
12:18 otavio I think they broke it when added XRandR support to X11
12:19 dv_ okay
12:20 dv_ so I just point my finger at them :)
12:27 jnettlet dv_, hopefully over the weekend you can switch to my 3.10 kernel and the KMS driver.
12:35 otavio jnettlet: are you using 3.10.17?
12:36 jnettlet My kernel is based on the linaro 3.10 with 3.10.17 merged and then patches of my own and upstream
12:36 otavio dv_: when I have something real (which I can share) I let you know.
12:36 otavio jnettlet: oh
12:36 otavio any special reason to not base on 3.10.17?
12:36 otavio I mean, FSL one.
12:37 otavio There are some fixes which were not merged yet in 3.10.17 (the ones from 3.10.z stable tree) but apart from that it is really FSL fixes and drivers.
12:40 jnettlet yeah, lsk will get maintenance from upstream for 2 years. I would much rather trust Linaro to do that then just let FSL pile on patches upon patches.
12:40 jnettlet If I base on lsk I can cherry-pick relevant fixes from FSL, or upstream depending which one is better.
12:41 jnettlet I have already found multiple patches in the FSL 3.10.17 that are just wrong.
12:46 _rmk 12:46 * _rmk_ pulls cubox-i stuff forward now that some more patches have been merged
13:03 MikeSeth 11:33 [freenode] CTCP VERSION reply from Coburn: KVIrc 4.2.0 svn-6190 'Equilibrium' 20120701 - build 2012-07-04 14:48:08 UTC - Windows 7 Professional (x64) Service Pack 1 (Build 7601)
13:03 Coburn MikeSeth??
13:03 MikeSeth some people..
13:04 dv_ jnettlet: and communication with freescale about these issues isnt exactly easy, correct?
13:05 dv_ I tried to get some more contacts regarding the vpu wrapper library, but only got very confusing replies
13:07 jnettlet dv_, I am not sure what the proper channels are to report bugs and submit patches to fsl.
13:07 dv_ community.freescale.com could be one. perhaps you can also post them on meta-freescale
13:07 jnettlet I think maybe their forums, but anything I have seen reported against 3.10.17 always gets brushed off because it is not the supported release yet.
13:07 dv_ but yeah, a clear channel isnt designated
13:09 jnettlet I am just not a big fan of community.freescale.com, I would rather have a mailing list or something else a little easier to track progress of a bug.
13:10 dv_ I think the meta-freescale mailing list would be suitable for this
13:10 jnettlet actually if they could enable the bug-tracker and do pull requests from github that would be excellent.
13:10 jnettlet yeah but meta-freescale is OE specific right?
13:10 dv_ hmm yeah, but I guess talking about kernel patches is ok too
13:11 dv_ otavio: what do you think?
13:13 otavio jnettlet: dv_: yes, we can pick kernel patches there. I can also work as a proxy for this.
13:14 dv_ this would be cool, it would make the work of jnettlet and _rmk_ more visible
13:14 dv_ btw whats the relation between jnettlets 3.10 kernel and rmk's 3.13 (or 3.14? ) one?
13:16 _rmk_ dv_: my patch set is now based on this morning's tip of Linus' tree
13:17 jnettlet dv_, _rmk_ is putting things upstream, I am backporting and merging to a long term stable kernel
13:17 otavio _rmk_: :)
13:18 otavio _rmk_: does the ethernet DT thing been fixed?
13:18 otavio dv_: I can help but I need jnettlet to help me as well doing the patchesets as clean and as documented as possible.
13:18 jnettlet because my stuff isn't going upstream I can do things like patch galcore, figure out what patches are in the FSL that can fix problems upstream
13:18 _rmk_ dv_: I'm doing the "let's get stuff sorted out and into mainline", jnettlet is doing the "let's provide something complete with all the bells and whistles for you guys to use"
13:19 _rmk_ ... and more modern :)
13:20 wbx _rmk_: where is your stuff accessible?
13:20 _rmk_ otavio: ethernet is fine for AR8035... I don't think SolidRun have made any boards with the AR8030 fast ethernet chip on.
13:20 otavio _rmk_: I second both.
13:20 MikeSeth somebody posted this screenshot on the forums, http://imx.solid-run.com/forums/download/file.php?id=12
13:21 MikeSeth are those ethernet phy error messages on top normal?
13:21 _rmk_ so all boards have the gigabit AR8035 phy on, which is now fully supported in mainline :)
13:21 _rmk_ as of last night
13:21 _rmk_ urgh, jpeg.
13:21 jnettlet MikeSeth, yeah that is do the PFD errata. I was testing a u-boot patch for that.
13:22 _rmk_ wbx: latest set of patches aren't pushed out yet (it's building) but there's previous sets at http://www.home.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/cubox/
13:22 jnettlet s/do/due/
13:22 _rmk_ wbx: but... that doesn't cover all the fun bits like gpu and vpu yet
13:22 jnettlet _rmk_, does your latest round include eSATA and wifi fixes?
13:23 _rmk_ I want to get imx-drm sorted out in mainline, and then hopefully jnettlet will have the vivante stuff in shape :)
13:23 _rmk_ eSATA yes, wifi... still a no on that
13:23 _rmk_ eSATA is still a hack though
13:24 _rmk_ the ahci_imx driver has at least had some attention recently, so post merge window I'll look at sorting it out better
13:24 wbx _rmk_: so someone want to follow your develop line, needs to apply patches from here hummingboard-cubox-i-v3.13-20140120/ ? you have no git repo online?
13:25 jnettlet wbx, I can start mirroring _rmk_'s repo to my github account
13:25 jnettlet _rmk_, are you okay with that?
13:25 _rmk_ wbx: I'm trying not to for stuff which changes frequently - as I'm intending to track mainline, updating the patches as things happen, git doesn't make that much sense
13:26 wbx my devie is not yet delivered, but I do not want to start with the old kernel.
13:26 wbx _rmk_: but how you manage then the patches? without git?
13:27 _rmk_ wbx: my work-flow is to provide clean and simple patches suitable for merging into mainline - last thing I want is lots of historical baggage behind them.
13:27 wbx _rmk_: okay. I understand.
13:28 _rmk_ wbx: I do keep them in git, but I have additional tools on top of git which facilitate keeping the patches clean, which has the effect of (from an external point of view) lots of rebasing.
13:28 _rmk_ that basically means anyone trying to take a git version and build upon it will find the history has changed when they update to a later version
13:30 _rmk_ given that some of my patches are down-right hacks which break other stuff (like the eSATA one)... that certainly is not be upstreamable in it's current form, so it will eventually be replaced.
13:30 wbx _rmk_: what devices you develop for? i1, i2, i2ultra or i4pro?
13:31 _rmk_ hb and i4pro, but I've been mindful of the i1-i2ultra
13:31 _rmk_ what's just gone into mainline is the basic support for all the imx6 solid-run platforms
13:32 Coolgeek is there still someone who work on the first cubox ?
13:32 wbx _rmk_: okay, good to know.
13:32 _rmk_ Coolgeek: Linux cubox 3.13.0+ #799 PREEMPT Mon Jan 27 22:56:18 GMT 2014 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
13:32 jnettlet besides some basic bootstrapping most the boards should behave relatively similar.
13:32 jnettlet unfortunately we have recently found a couple of differences but nothing major
13:33 dv_ Coolgeek : there are some things that need fixing in my Vmeta Gstreamer plugins, but Cubox-i has priority atm
13:33 Coolgeek thought so dv_ :)
13:33 wbx i ordered i2ultra and my college i4pro.
13:33 jnettlet Coolgeek, where it matters yes. It will benefit from the new Vivante driver work
13:33 _rmk_ most differences are at the SoC level post boot-strapping, which is taken care of using the right DT include :)
13:34 jnettlet _rmk_, did you see that Armv8 is growing ACPI support?
13:35 _rmk_ so.. mainline has three DT files: one for the hummingboard, one for the imx6s/dl cubox-i, and one for the imx6q
13:35 _rmk_ jnettlet: yep, I'm aware of that
13:36 jnettlet so all this work on DT we get to do again with UEFI and ACPI...hurray!!!
13:36 _rmk_ it's more meant for server, not for embedded
13:37 Coolgeek the fun is not in the straight line !
13:37 wbx _rmk_: are all cubox-i models imx6s?
13:37 dv_ No
13:37 _rmk_ I believe embedded will stick with DT
13:38 wbx ah, s for single cpu and q for quad.
13:38 jnettle 13:38 * jnettlet wonders what will distinguish ARMv8 server vs embedded/mobile
13:38 jnettlet yeah s/dl d/q are the two distinctions
13:38 jnettlet solo/dual-lite dual/quad
13:39 wbx but what is used inside cubox-i2 and cubox-i2ultra?
13:39 wbx jnettlet: ah. okay.
13:39 wbx now I got it.
13:40 wbx cubox-i1 and cubox-i2 are s/dl and cubox-i2ultra and cubox-i4pro are d/q
13:40 _rmk_ well, that eventually built :)
13:40 _rmk_ I'll try it out in a bit
13:40 _rmk_ back later.
14:12 jnettlet #cubox is slowly working its way up to 100 lurkers
14:13 MikeSeth they're waaaatching
14:15 jnettlet _Adik_, I dug up that patch for you to test. Do you need me to build you new u-boot binaries?
14:16 _Adik_ jnettlet: hi
14:16 _Adik_ would be great if you could build it for me
14:17 jnettlet _Adik_, okay let me clean up my tree.
14:17 matoking Any people here who've had their Cuboxes shipped recently
14:18 matoking Mine is supposed to be shipped by the end of the month and I'm becoming more anxious every moment :P
14:18 _Adik_ is here any special howto about updating uboot or is it a matter of dd onto cd card?
14:18 _Adik_ *sd card
14:20 jnettlet _Adik_, just a couple of dd commands
14:28 _rmk_ well, it boots, and the annoying warning and backtrace which pops up when no displays are connected is gone :)
14:29 _rmk_ or... are connected but are powered off
14:31 jnettlet _Adik_, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/736509/i4pro/u-boot/SPL https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/736509/i4pro/u-boot/u-boot.img
14:31 jnettlet you can get the dd commands from http://imx.solid-run.com/wiki/index.php?title=Building_the_kernel_and_u-boot_for_the_CuBox-i_and_the_HummingBoard
14:31 _rmk_ eurgh, maybe not
14:31 _rmk_ looks like NFS is broken
14:32 jnettlet ???
14:32 _rmk_ # touch test
14:32 _rmk_ touch: cannot touch `test': Operation not supported
14:32 _Adik_ jnettlet: the one with SPL is correct?
14:32 _Adik_ I cannot download it
14:33 jnettlet try this. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/736509/i4pro/u-boot/SPL
14:33 jnettlet looks the same
14:34 _Adik_ maybe it is the proxy here
14:34 _Adik_ Ill try later from home, will flash it and report you back
14:34 jnettlet okay good luck
15:57 dv_ jnettlet: nice to hear about 3.10
15:58 dv_ I am not sure whether or not to follow up with meta-fsl patches for it though
16:03 dv_ if I understand otavio correctly he'd prefer it to use the 3.10 fsl one with your patches on top
16:13 jnettlet dv_, he is more than welcome to rebase and maintain the patches on top of the fsl kernel. Since I am maintaining patches for multiple platforms that is just not an option.
16:15 jnettlet For me fsl is not upstream. They are a fork of upstream. Linaro is as well but they are a much more qualified maintainer of a a long term fork, which is what I am interested in.
16:16 dv_ I find this parallel development of linaro and fsl curious
16:17 dv_ so linaro is doing something similar to what you are doing. rolling up the fsl changes in a better way.
16:22 jnettlet not really. Linaro, and really GKH, has agreed to a long term support kernel. Where they will pick a kernel version based on features and stability and then maintain it with security and bugfixes for 2 years.
16:23 jnettlet I am basing my work on that since I want something relatively stable for a while because my time and patience for chasing after bugs introduced by new features is limited right now.
16:24 jnettlet 3.10 lks is a good balance for me.
16:24 dv_ ah okay
16:24 jnettlet I am then taking all the work done on Mrvl/FSL and merging that into a single kernel repo, maybe on different branches I am not sure.
16:25 dv_ and _rmk_ then works on taking your patches and mainlining them
16:25 jnettlet On top of that I am backporting features that I think developers need, or the platforms need that are upstream.
16:25 dv_ thats actually a pretty nice workflow
16:26 jnettlet those features are _rmk_'s patches, and also things like zswap which is a great feature for the HB1/CBi's with limited RAM
16:26 dv_ it produces a full-featured kernel (yours), and one which mainlines more and more parts over time (_rmk_'s)
16:26 jnettlet that is hope
16:26 jnettlet the hope
16:27 jnettlet and as we find ways to get more and more patches upstream, my kernel is needed less and less. Hopefully by the time the 2 years is up everything will be upstream.
16:27 dv_ yeah
16:30 jnettlet since I am not being paid by any company to do any of this, I am doing it my way :-P
16:31 jnettlet oh 88 users. I think that is the highest count I have seen
16:51 _rmk_ yea, NFS in Linus' tip is busted
16:54 jnettlet get out the pitchforks
16:54 jnettlet Someone in Japan has reviewed the CBi. http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fgigazine.net%2Fnews%2F20140114-cubox-i1-review%2F&act=url
16:55 jnettlet provided the English translated link
17:00 hste jnettlet: did u read it in Japaneese? :)
17:01 jnettlet hste, not at all. Would love to be able to, but I am having a hard enough time with Danish
17:01 jnettlet Actually I bet Japanese is easier than Danish
17:01 hste jnettlet: Danish is easy to read :) at least for me
17:03 hste jnettlet: but counting in Danish is difficult
17:03 kuguar-tsk I have successfully connected the mouse to android. third. and it works.
17:03 jnettlet yeah yeah. Do you watch the Netflix show LilyHammer?
17:03 hste jnettlet: yes. Its were I was borned :)
17:03 hste +h
17:04 jnettlet hste, ha. Pretty accurate?
17:04 hste nope :)
17:04 kuguar-tsk need
17:04 kuguar-tsk to add to the list of incompatibilities mouse
17:05 kuguar-tsk a4tech glaser series
17:05 jnettlet kuguar-tsk, so one mouse works and the other doesn't?
17:05 kuguar-tsk two mouse not works
17:05 hste jnettlet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk this one is about the difficult Danish
17:06 kuguar-tsk but in debian they works fine
17:06 jnettlet hste, I have seen that, and that is not far from the truth
17:06 jnettlet kuguar-tsk, could be the android kernel config is missing a driver needed.
17:07 jnettlet can you post the dmesg output of a debian boot with the mouse connected?
17:07 kuguar-tsk yes
17:13 kuguar-tsk jnettlet, http://paste.org.ru/?vducdb
17:16 jnettlet kuguar-tsk, hmmm strange seems like a normal usb hid device
17:16 _rmk_ hste: what can be really difficult is opening a packet of danish blue :)
17:17 _Adik_ jnettlet: just tested the u-boot that you compiled for me earlier
17:17 jnettlet and?
17:17 _Adik_ works really good, 20 boots = 20 succesfull
17:17 jnettlet excellent!
17:17 _Adik_ compleatly different experience than before!
17:18 jnettlet rabeeh, looks like my pfd patch may be a winner.
17:19 _Adik_ so, the only problem that persists is the kernel...
17:22 hste _rmk_: I like danish blue :)
17:23 _rmk_ so do I... up to the point where it takes knives and scissors to get into the packet because they've sealed it soo well
17:28 jnettlet the Danes are ridiculous with their packaging.
17:37 _rmk_ found he-who-has-an-autoresponder-on-his-nick's email
17:37 _rmk_ sent from an IP with no DNS
17:38 _rmk_ certain ISPs reject outright for that offence
17:41 jnettlet as they should
17:42 jnettlet tlw come back we need your for 90
20:08 MikeSeth a thought just occurred to me
20:08 MikeSeth I can write a simple php script to collect and compare uboot/dmesg output
20:09 MikeSeth would that be useful?
20:19 mpd_guy hi, I've just setup archlinux on my cubox. I've setup mpd and am streaming the sound through hdmi to my hifi equip. that is working pretty well. but the cubox is going to disable the hdmi output after about 5 minutes of inactivity. do you have an idea how to fix that?
20:21 mpd_guy i've no X server installed. so it is nox X/ DPMS related
20:21 _rmk_ does that mean you're using a normal virtual console or something graphical?
20:21 _rmk_ that was going to be my question :)
20:21 _rmk_ TERM=linux setterm -blank 0 >/dev/tty1
20:23 _rmk_ that disables the virtual console blank timeout
20:24 mpd_guy ooh cool. that worked well :-)
20:27 _rmk_ you'll need to do that at each boot, so you may want to consider putting it in the rc.local startup script... which'll be somewhere under /etc
20:27 mpd_guy yeah, sure :-)
20:28 mpd_guy I am just wondering about the TERM variable. the value linux seems to link to the kernel, doesn't it? because usually there is something like xterm in it
20:28 MikeSeth oh this is actually an annoyance in debian too
20:29 MikeSeth good idea
20:30 _rmk_ mpd_guy: well, it's a linux-specific control code sequence
20:31 _rmk_ The linux console based upon the vt100 standard plus a number of extras
20:31 _rmk_ one of them is the ESC [ 9 ; ] sequence which sets the blank timeout
20:32 _rmk_ so, I could've told you this instead: echo -en '\033[9;0]' >/dev/tty1
20:33 mpd_guy well... that is... nothing I am going to use :D
20:35 mpd_guy I had a look for the man page of setterm before going to ask here. And I got really no idea or breadcrumb that I've to reference to a term "linux".
20:36 mpd_guy but that is working pretty good. thx again!
20:47 _rmk_ yea, it's not that well documented, because most people just tend to run it from the console
20:48 _rmk_ it doesn't make sense to run it from within xterm or similar (and may do something unexpected)
21:15 jnettlet you can add consoleblank=0 to the kernel command line as well
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