| 00:00 | mk01 | freinhard: |
| 00:00 | mk01 | root@cubox:~# hdparm -tT /dev/sd{a,b} |
| 00:00 | mk01 | /dev/sda: |
| 00:00 | mk01 | Timing cached reads: 580 MB in 2.01 seconds = 289.26 MB/sec |
| 00:01 | mk01 | Timing buffered disk reads: 70 MB in 3.01 seconds = 23.28 MB/sec |
| 00:01 | mk01 | /dev/sdb: |
| 00:01 | mk01 | Timing cached reads: 574 MB in 2.00 seconds = 286.94 MB/sec |
| 00:01 | mk01 | Timing buffered disk reads: 70 MB in 3.01 seconds = 23.22 MB/sec |
| 00:01 | mk01 | this are two 2.5sata disks attached via USB HUB |
| 00:05 | kaipee | mk01 changing /boot to ext2 worked fine btw |
| 00:06 | mk01 | kaipee: oh, thanks for info |
| 00:48 | coinsen | can i do a make modules_install to install the compiled modules? |
| 00:52 | mk01 | coinsen: from kernel build tree, yes |
| 00:53 | coinsen | i had a really strange bug when i compiled my last kernel. it didnt load any modules, but it also didnt give me a error message (e.g. FATAL: module not found) |
| 00:54 | coinsen | i wasnt sure if its related to make modules_install, since i havent seen it in any guide yet |
| 00:55 | mk01 | modules_install is the standard command how to get .ko files stripped and copied out of tree |
| 00:58 | kaipee | just tried loading up a GUI environment on my Arch ARM install |
| 00:58 | kaipee | nothing lol |
| 00:58 | kaipee | xorg keeps crashing |
| 00:58 | mk01 | on what error |
| 00:58 | kaipee | can remember now, I left it in the other room |
| 00:59 | coinsen | do you have the latest kernel installed? |
| 00:59 | kaipee | it only seemed to flicker for 1-2secs with xf86-video-fbdev |
| 00:59 | kaipee | Linux alarmcbi 3.10.30-9-ARCH #1 SMP Mon Mar 24 09:59:47 MDT 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux |
| 01:00 | coinsen | i'm still on 3.0.35 |
| 01:01 | kaipee | is there an actual up-to-date Wiki page that outlines current status of the device for each OS? |
| 01:01 | kaipee | I also noticed wireless wasn't being recognised |
| 01:01 | _dab_ | Do we have any progress on stable mainline Linux drivers for ethernet and wifi? |
| 01:02 | coinsen | yea, youre probably missing the firmware files |
| 01:02 | kaipee | me? |
| 01:02 | coinsen | yes |
| 01:02 | kaipee | [root@alarmcbi ~]# sudo pacman -Ss firmware imx |
| 01:02 | kaipee | alarm/firmware-imx 3.5.7_1.0.0-1 [installed] |
| 01:02 | kaipee | Freescale proprietary firmware for i.MX6 SoC |
| 01:02 | mk01 | kaipee: probably missing firmware |
| 01:02 | kaipee | those? |
| 01:03 | coinsen | kaipee: nope, those: http://imx.solid-run.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=766&start=20#p5966 |
| 01:03 | coinsen | however wifi REALLY sucks on the cubox-i |
| 01:03 | coinsen | i dont know if its just bad hardware design, or bad drivers, but its so damn slow |
| 01:04 | coinsen | no matter if 3.10 or 3.0.35 |
| 01:04 | _dab_ | drivers |
| 01:04 | coinsen | i hope so |
| 01:04 | coinsen | :D |
| 01:05 | kaipee | is there any fully stable OS available for cubox-i yet? (full hardware support, GPU acceleration, etc.) |
| 01:06 | _dab_ | 3.10.30 is as good as it gets |
| 01:06 | kaipee | Ubuntu / Debian / Android still unstable/dev ? |
| 01:07 | _dab_ | for: no GPU accel, unstable wifi and ethernet. The rest seems ok |
| 01:08 | _dab_ | add BT to that list |
| 01:09 | kaipee | so nothing really fully works for it atm? |
| 01:09 | _dab_ | depends on what you call "work" |
| 01:09 | coinsen | kaipee: im using xbmc on archlinux at the moment (with onboard wifi) |
| 01:09 | coinsen | so gpu accel works |
| 01:10 | _dab_ | 3.10/debian and no GPU (due to xorg problem) |
| 01:10 | kaipee | coinsen do you have any thorough guides for getting it all set up? |
| 01:11 | Tenkaw | 01:11 * Tenkawa would be happy as long as headless slackware wifi+sata runs ok on it |
| 01:11 | coinsen | kaipee: nope, but i can write one |
| 01:12 | coinsen | kaipee: i think archlinux is the best choice |
| 01:12 | Tenkaw | 01:12 * Tenkawa just hopes this soc is more stable than his gk802 |
| 01:12 | Tenkaw | 01:12 * Tenkawa hasnt had great luck with the i.mx6 so far |
| 01:12 | coinsen | since it has a active arm community |
| 01:13 | kaipee | coinsen do you have a list of packages (+vers) that are currently the most stable? |
| 01:13 | kaipee | I'm not sure what I'm missing or what isn't working together |
| 01:14 | Tenkaw | 01:14 * Tenkawa notes slackware arm is also very nice for his arm boxes |
| 01:14 | kaipee | lol it's like there's a ghostly presence |
| 01:14 | coinsen | slackware? is it still alive? |
| 01:14 | Tenkawa | coinsen: thriving |
| 01:15 | Tenkawa | its on all of my boxes |
| 01:15 | coinsen | kaipee: hmm, not really. on archlinux it constantly changes |
| 01:16 | kaipee | I know, I use Arch on my desktop/laptop/home server |
| 01:16 | coinsen | but yeah, youre right. something like a stable distribution would be nice |
| 01:16 | kaipee | It's just the cubox-i forums / guides are a complete mess |
| 01:17 | coinsen | i fully agree |
| 01:17 | kaipee | so many contradictions and differences |
| 01:17 | Tenkawa | gotta run.. cheers all |
| 01:17 | kaipee | \o |
| 01:17 | coinsen | bye |
| 01:18 | _dab_ | I have simple recipe for debian jessie. It was one of the easiest things to do. The eth/wlan drivers are my sole immediate issues. |
| 01:19 | coinsen | _dab_: whats wrong with the eth driver? |
| 01:20 | _dab_ | do slow on reads (iperf). in the range of 70-130 Mbits/sec |
| 01:21 | _dab_ | and does not always start on boot. |
| 01:21 | coinsen | strange. i'm also far from 500 mbits, however i get at least 350 |
| 01:22 | _dab_ | I get 440 on send |
| 01:23 | coinsen | hmm |
| 01:25 | _dab_ | If I could get 300 RX I would be happy enough |
| 01:25 | coinsen | kaipee: i just successfully launched fluxbox with xterm :D |
| 01:26 | kaipee | how? |
| 01:26 | kaipee | what video drivers? |
| 01:26 | kaipee | what xorg version? |
| 01:26 | coinsen | latest kernel 3.0.35 |
| 01:27 | coinsen | extra/xorg-server 1.15.0-5.1 (xorg) [installed] |
| 01:27 | coinsen | and i think that dfb vivante driver. however i have no idea if gpu accel works within X |
| 01:28 | kaipee | what dfd vivante driver? |
| 01:28 | coinsen | alarm/gpu-viv-bin-mx6q-fb 3.10.17_1.0.0_beta-1 [installed] |
| 01:28 | coinsen | i mean fb, not dfb |
| 01:28 | coinsen | there is also that x11 one, but dont wanna install it since it seems to break my xbmc setup |
| 01:29 | coinsen | guys, gotta go to bed |
| 01:30 | kaipee | yeah I already had that installed |
| 01:30 | coinsen | see you tomorrow :) |
| 01:30 | kaipee | X wouldn't start with it - only seemed to start (flicker) with fbdev |
| 01:30 | kaipee | o/ |
| 01:58 | mk01 | coinsen: 2D accelerations works through FB -> EGL |
| 01:58 | mk01 | no 3D/OpenXXX whatsoever |
| 01:59 | mk01 | vivante xorg driver doesn't support DRI2 and higher |
| 01:59 | mk01 | so with 3.10.30 currently no way to get full acceleration. Vivante is working on that. |
| 01:59 | mk01 | maybe even rmk was backporting ... (no idea if remember correctly) |
| 02:17 | mk01 | _dab_: still the SWITCH problem ? |
| 03:49 | _dab_ | mk01: maybe not the switch problem, but FEC problem with the switch. I know of 3 switches which give bad results that work fine with other adaptors |
| 03:50 | _dab_ | worst case was 30Mbit/sec receive |
| 03:50 | mk01 | meaning ~3.5MB ? |
| 03:50 | _dab_ | yes |
| 03:50 | mk01 | I have such experience with RPIs |
| 03:50 | mk01 | own few |
| 03:52 | _dab_ | old cubox is starting to look pretty good |
| 03:52 | mk01 | just wanted to say, have some devices on network set to "be compatible" rather than to be "effective" or fast |
| 03:52 | mk01 | (to be able working with RPI on net) |
| 03:53 | mk01 | developers never bothered |
| 03:53 | mk01 | at least saying sorry, we won't fix ;) |
| 03:53 | _dab_ | I see the issue as a killer. I don't see people upgrading their switched/routers so they can buy a cubox-i |
| 03:54 | _dab_ | switches |
| 03:54 | mk01 | what brand / non-brand it is ? |
| 03:55 | _dab_ | 2 netgear, 1 I forget, let me go look it up |
| 03:55 | _dab_ | tp-link |
| 03:56 | mk01 | did you try such stupid hacks as running TP cable with only 2x2wires ? |
| 03:57 | _dab_ | no |
| 03:57 | mk01 | or if you have crosslink cable |
| 03:59 | mk01 | it is the same with only one pair switched in connector. but the point is even "cheap" switches should be able to understand the configuration and thanks to missing duplex signaling & stuff you can achieve some difference |
| 03:59 | mk01 | with the problem |
| 04:00 | _dab_ | The point is, these switches work fine with an infinity of other ethernet connectors |
| 04:02 | _dab_ | also direct connect to my dell laptop does 30-40Mbit/sec |
| 04:02 | mk01 | _dab_: I'm not producer of Cubox. I'm just trying making from useless device a .... black box with red led (two actually) |
| 04:02 | _dab_ | rx |
| 04:03 | _dab_ | sorry |
| 04:03 | mk01 | np |
| 04:06 | _dab_ | too light to use as door stops? |
| 04:06 | mk01 | if you have enough of them |
| 04:07 | mk01 | use a duck tape |
| 04:07 | mk01 | 4 will do |
| 04:07 | mk01 | shame you can't change the color of the led |
| 04:08 | mk01 | you could have RED as "I'm in the room, do not approach". or green, as "I left, feel free to enter" |
| 04:09 | _dab_ | and blue for somewhere in between |
| 04:10 | _dab_ | going for a walk, bye |
| 04:15 | mk01 | bye |
| 09:48 | aplund | jnettlet: Did you have any patches which enabled UHS-1? When I remove the no-v-1-8 out of the device tree, I get a -110 (timeout?) error when the card is enabled. |
| 13:39 | AKL_ | anyone successfully had a conversation with support? I haven't heard back from them in over a week |
| 15:30 | kaipee | so I got xbmc running using 3.0.35 |
| 15:30 | kaipee | looks like hardware acceleration is working also (Vivante GC2000, OpenGL ES 3.02) |
| 15:30 | kaipee | still had a few quirks, and sound wasn't working at all |
| 15:32 | kaipee | and internet connection was very flakey |
| 15:55 | jnettlet | kaipee, which distro? |
| 15:59 | kaipee | Arch ARM |
| 16:15 | kaipee | jnettlet here's some feedback about the current xbmc release on Arch (3.0.35) http://imx.solid-run.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=856&p=6456#p6456 |
| 16:16 | jnettlet | kaipee, xbmc runs against the 3.10 kernel if you are using the github version. I worked with the geexbox guys to get that fixed. |
| 16:16 | kaipee | jnettlet does hardware acceleration work? I read that it didn't |
| 16:16 | jnettlet | kaipee, it absolutely does |
| 16:16 | jnettlet | smooth as can be actually. |
| 16:17 | kaipee | what kernel? |
| 16:17 | kaipee | what video drivers? |
| 16:17 | kaipee | what firmware? |
| 16:22 | jnettlet | they are all on SolidRun's github repo |
| 16:27 | kaipee | I only see 3 projects on solidrun repo |
| 16:27 | kaipee | https://github.com/SolidRun |
| 16:29 | jnettlet | yes |
| 16:29 | jnettlet | the graphics drivers from Yocto can be used. I think they have updated to the latest. |
| 16:30 | kaipee | sorry, I'm not a system developer per se |
| 16:36 | AKL_ | jnettlet you work for SolidRun? |
| 16:41 | jnettlet | AKL_, not at all. Just a community developer |
| 16:42 | jnettlet | kaipee, okay. have you checked the forums. I thought someone had already made an Arch recipe for the 3.10 kernel and drivers |
| 16:42 | kaipee | jnettlet yeah I've read through quite a few, but they're a mess |
| 16:43 | kaipee | I followed the guide on Arch ARM site to get Arch installed |
| 16:43 | kaipee | (though it doesn't really mention anything about graphics drivers and such) |
| 16:44 | kaipee | so I don't really know in what state the system is - what are correct/compatible package version and so on |
| 16:57 | AKL_ | @jnettlet damn, trying to reach support is damn near impossible |
| 17:41 | rabeeh | AKL_: here |
| 17:41 | AKL_ | ? |
| 17:42 | rabeeh | you had questions? |
| 17:42 | AKL_ | I sent an email on the 14th and haven't received any response...my Cubox-i4Pro won't power on |
| 17:44 | rabeeh | to whom did you send that email? Elinor? |
| 17:45 | AKL_ | rabeeh sent one to support(at)solid-run.com and another through the online webform |
| 17:45 | rabeeh | ok. so the online should have got to Elinor then. |
| 17:45 | rabeeh | maybe i can help you out; what did you try to do? |
| 17:46 | rabeeh | did you order that with a micro SD? (Android) |
| 17:46 | rabeeh | are you powering it with Solidrun power supply? (5V / 3A)? |
| 17:46 | AKL_ | multiple SD cards, multiple power supplies, no lights even when plugged in with just power cord |
| 17:47 | rabeeh | is there a light on the optical SPDIF when hooking the power supply? |
| 17:47 | AKL_ | no |
| 17:47 | rabeeh | ok. so even if there is no micro SD in and the power supply is 5V; you should see a red light on the optical SPDIF |
| 17:48 | AKL_ | I don't get any lights |
| 17:48 | rabeeh | if you are not seeing that then it means that it fried; now can you look at the power supplies that you are using? |
| 17:48 | rabeeh | are those from SolidRun? or yours? |
| 17:49 | AKL_ | all mine, only thing I got from SolidRun is the cubox |
| 17:50 | rabeeh | are those +5V? |
| 17:50 | AKL_ | yes |
| 17:53 | rabeeh | if there is no light then it means that it's fried |
| 17:53 | rabeeh | i mean no light on the spdif optical out |
| 17:53 | AKL_ | rabeeh year |
| 17:53 | rabeeh | that's a base indication that the 5v to 3.3v internal conversion is there. |
| 17:53 | AKL_ | *yeah |
| 17:53 | rabeeh | i'm looking at your email |
| 17:53 | AKL_ | awesome |
| 17:55 | rabeeh | ok. sent out email |
| 17:55 | freinhard | mk01: thx for the hdparm output! |
| 17:56 | freinhard | for comparison: my beaglebone black does less than 10MB for unbuffered reads |
| 17:56 | freinhard | +1 for cubox-i |
| 17:57 | freinhard | mk01: by the way, which cubox-i did you test with? |
| 18:02 | freinhard | could someone with an harddrive connected to the esata port test the throughput? "hdparm -tT /dev/sd?"? thx! |
| 18:02 | purch | jnettlet: any howto's to do deb -> opkg conversions? |
| 18:02 | jnettlet | purch, I have no idea. |
| 18:03 | jnettlet | purch, apparently opkg can install .deb's directly |
| 18:04 | kaipee | jnettlet fancy being a good soul and looking over > http://imx.solid-run.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=897 ? |
| 18:04 | kaipee | :) |
| 18:04 | purch | so it is packaging from source to geexbox? |
| 18:04 | jnettlet | kaipee, quick look. The first problem is the xorg version. |
| 18:05 | jnettlet | Really for the best compatibility use the latest 1.13 version. I think up to 1.14.3 works though. |
| 18:05 | jnettlet | there is also a limit as to the mesa version supported. |
| 18:06 | kaipee | only xorg-server 1-15.0-5 is available in the Arch ARM repo |
| 18:07 | jnettlet | well there is your problem right there. |
| 18:07 | purch | too new |
| 18:08 | jnettlet | hopefully freescale will release some newer binaries soon |
| 18:08 | kaipee | is there somewhere that lists currently working/compatible package versions for cubox/imx ? |
| 18:09 | jnettlet | I would have figured the forums would have sorted that out. I have been too busy to keep track of all the maintainership. |
| 20:16 | kaipee | is the hummingboard similar to the cubox-i4Pro? |
| 20:16 | kaipee | can modules/drivers being interchanged? |
| 20:21 | jnettlet | kaipee, yes. |
| 20:22 | jnettlet | they are built from the same microsom (SOC and RAM) and most hardware is spec'd to be similar, although there are some differences. |
| 20:22 | Coolgeek | if there is no difference, it's the same board :) |
| 20:23 | rabeeh | there are additions in HB in some of it's versions |
| 20:23 | rabeeh | like msata :) |
| 20:23 | kaipee | ok thnx |
| 20:23 | rabeeh | mini pci express, lvds, camera interface, analog audio in/out, usb hub for up to 4 ports USB |
| 20:24 | rabeeh | oh; and SIM card for mini pci-e based cellular cards |
| 20:24 | mal- | and a jetpack |
| 20:26 | kaipee | can anyone confirm that wireless is detected and working fine with Arch 3.10 ? |
| 20:26 | kaipee | I had Arch 3.10 on it yesterday but no wireless device was shown |
| 21:13 | rabeeh | http://imx.solid-run.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=901 |
| 21:13 | davorin | you should do checkboxes, not radio buttons (o; |
| 21:16 | mal- | :) |
| 21:17 | davori | 21:17 * davorin likes them all, and maybe also the hb3.0 (o; |
| 21:17 | davorin | and of course mops board based on usom... |
| 21:20 | rabeeh | davorin: did you mean checkboxes or cuboxes? |
| 21:24 | mal- | multipl. answers |
| 21:24 | mal- | votes |
| 21:26 | rabeeh | i love them all |
| 21:27 | rabeeh | you can only change your vote; but one vote |