IRC log of #cubox of Tue 25 Mar 2014. All times are in CET < Back to index

00:00 mk01 freinhard:
00:00 mk01 root@cubox:~# hdparm -tT /dev/sd{a,b}
00:00 mk01 /dev/sda:
00:00 mk01 Timing cached reads: 580 MB in 2.01 seconds = 289.26 MB/sec
00:01 mk01 Timing buffered disk reads: 70 MB in 3.01 seconds = 23.28 MB/sec
00:01 mk01 /dev/sdb:
00:01 mk01 Timing cached reads: 574 MB in 2.00 seconds = 286.94 MB/sec
00:01 mk01 Timing buffered disk reads: 70 MB in 3.01 seconds = 23.22 MB/sec
00:01 mk01 this are two 2.5sata disks attached via USB HUB
00:05 kaipee mk01 changing /boot to ext2 worked fine btw
00:06 mk01 kaipee: oh, thanks for info
00:48 coinsen can i do a make modules_install to install the compiled modules?
00:52 mk01 coinsen: from kernel build tree, yes
00:53 coinsen i had a really strange bug when i compiled my last kernel. it didnt load any modules, but it also didnt give me a error message (e.g. FATAL: module not found)
00:54 coinsen i wasnt sure if its related to make modules_install, since i havent seen it in any guide yet
00:55 mk01 modules_install is the standard command how to get .ko files stripped and copied out of tree
00:58 kaipee just tried loading up a GUI environment on my Arch ARM install
00:58 kaipee nothing lol
00:58 kaipee xorg keeps crashing
00:58 mk01 on what error
00:58 kaipee can remember now, I left it in the other room
00:59 coinsen do you have the latest kernel installed?
00:59 kaipee it only seemed to flicker for 1-2secs with xf86-video-fbdev
00:59 kaipee Linux alarmcbi 3.10.30-9-ARCH #1 SMP Mon Mar 24 09:59:47 MDT 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux
01:00 coinsen i'm still on 3.0.35
01:01 kaipee is there an actual up-to-date Wiki page that outlines current status of the device for each OS?
01:01 kaipee I also noticed wireless wasn't being recognised
01:01 _dab_ Do we have any progress on stable mainline Linux drivers for ethernet and wifi?
01:02 coinsen yea, youre probably missing the firmware files
01:02 kaipee me?
01:02 coinsen yes
01:02 kaipee [root@alarmcbi ~]# sudo pacman -Ss firmware imx
01:02 kaipee alarm/firmware-imx 3.5.7_1.0.0-1 [installed]
01:02 kaipee Freescale proprietary firmware for i.MX6 SoC
01:02 mk01 kaipee: probably missing firmware
01:02 kaipee those?
01:03 coinsen kaipee: nope, those: http://imx.solid-run.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=766&start=20#p5966
01:03 coinsen however wifi REALLY sucks on the cubox-i
01:03 coinsen i dont know if its just bad hardware design, or bad drivers, but its so damn slow
01:04 coinsen no matter if 3.10 or 3.0.35
01:04 _dab_ drivers
01:04 coinsen i hope so
01:04 coinsen :D
01:05 kaipee is there any fully stable OS available for cubox-i yet? (full hardware support, GPU acceleration, etc.)
01:06 _dab_ 3.10.30 is as good as it gets
01:06 kaipee Ubuntu / Debian / Android still unstable/dev ?
01:07 _dab_ for: no GPU accel, unstable wifi and ethernet. The rest seems ok
01:08 _dab_ add BT to that list
01:09 kaipee so nothing really fully works for it atm?
01:09 _dab_ depends on what you call "work"
01:09 coinsen kaipee: im using xbmc on archlinux at the moment (with onboard wifi)
01:09 coinsen so gpu accel works
01:10 _dab_ 3.10/debian and no GPU (due to xorg problem)
01:10 kaipee coinsen do you have any thorough guides for getting it all set up?
01:11 Tenkaw 01:11 * Tenkawa would be happy as long as headless slackware wifi+sata runs ok on it
01:11 coinsen kaipee: nope, but i can write one
01:12 coinsen kaipee: i think archlinux is the best choice
01:12 Tenkaw 01:12 * Tenkawa just hopes this soc is more stable than his gk802
01:12 Tenkaw 01:12 * Tenkawa hasnt had great luck with the i.mx6 so far
01:12 coinsen since it has a active arm community
01:13 kaipee coinsen do you have a list of packages (+vers) that are currently the most stable?
01:13 kaipee I'm not sure what I'm missing or what isn't working together
01:14 Tenkaw 01:14 * Tenkawa notes slackware arm is also very nice for his arm boxes
01:14 kaipee lol it's like there's a ghostly presence
01:14 coinsen slackware? is it still alive?
01:14 Tenkawa coinsen: thriving
01:15 Tenkawa its on all of my boxes
01:15 coinsen kaipee: hmm, not really. on archlinux it constantly changes
01:16 kaipee I know, I use Arch on my desktop/laptop/home server
01:16 coinsen but yeah, youre right. something like a stable distribution would be nice
01:16 kaipee It's just the cubox-i forums / guides are a complete mess
01:17 coinsen i fully agree
01:17 kaipee so many contradictions and differences
01:17 Tenkawa gotta run.. cheers all
01:17 kaipee \o
01:17 coinsen bye
01:18 _dab_ I have simple recipe for debian jessie. It was one of the easiest things to do. The eth/wlan drivers are my sole immediate issues.
01:19 coinsen _dab_: whats wrong with the eth driver?
01:20 _dab_ do slow on reads (iperf). in the range of 70-130 Mbits/sec
01:21 _dab_ and does not always start on boot.
01:21 coinsen strange. i'm also far from 500 mbits, however i get at least 350
01:22 _dab_ I get 440 on send
01:23 coinsen hmm
01:25 _dab_ If I could get 300 RX I would be happy enough
01:25 coinsen kaipee: i just successfully launched fluxbox with xterm :D
01:26 kaipee how?
01:26 kaipee what video drivers?
01:26 kaipee what xorg version?
01:26 coinsen latest kernel 3.0.35
01:27 coinsen extra/xorg-server 1.15.0-5.1 (xorg) [installed]
01:27 coinsen and i think that dfb vivante driver. however i have no idea if gpu accel works within X
01:28 kaipee what dfd vivante driver?
01:28 coinsen alarm/gpu-viv-bin-mx6q-fb 3.10.17_1.0.0_beta-1 [installed]
01:28 coinsen i mean fb, not dfb
01:28 coinsen there is also that x11 one, but dont wanna install it since it seems to break my xbmc setup
01:29 coinsen guys, gotta go to bed
01:30 kaipee yeah I already had that installed
01:30 coinsen see you tomorrow :)
01:30 kaipee X wouldn't start with it - only seemed to start (flicker) with fbdev
01:30 kaipee o/
01:58 mk01 coinsen: 2D accelerations works through FB -> EGL
01:58 mk01 no 3D/OpenXXX whatsoever
01:59 mk01 vivante xorg driver doesn't support DRI2 and higher
01:59 mk01 so with 3.10.30 currently no way to get full acceleration. Vivante is working on that.
01:59 mk01 maybe even rmk was backporting ... (no idea if remember correctly)
02:17 mk01 _dab_: still the SWITCH problem ?
03:49 _dab_ mk01: maybe not the switch problem, but FEC problem with the switch. I know of 3 switches which give bad results that work fine with other adaptors
03:50 _dab_ worst case was 30Mbit/sec receive
03:50 mk01 meaning ~3.5MB ?
03:50 _dab_ yes
03:50 mk01 I have such experience with RPIs
03:50 mk01 own few
03:52 _dab_ old cubox is starting to look pretty good
03:52 mk01 just wanted to say, have some devices on network set to "be compatible" rather than to be "effective" or fast
03:52 mk01 (to be able working with RPI on net)
03:53 mk01 developers never bothered
03:53 mk01 at least saying sorry, we won't fix ;)
03:53 _dab_ I see the issue as a killer. I don't see people upgrading their switched/routers so they can buy a cubox-i
03:54 _dab_ switches
03:54 mk01 what brand / non-brand it is ?
03:55 _dab_ 2 netgear, 1 I forget, let me go look it up
03:55 _dab_ tp-link
03:56 mk01 did you try such stupid hacks as running TP cable with only 2x2wires ?
03:57 _dab_ no
03:57 mk01 or if you have crosslink cable
03:59 mk01 it is the same with only one pair switched in connector. but the point is even "cheap" switches should be able to understand the configuration and thanks to missing duplex signaling & stuff you can achieve some difference
03:59 mk01 with the problem
04:00 _dab_ The point is, these switches work fine with an infinity of other ethernet connectors
04:02 _dab_ also direct connect to my dell laptop does 30-40Mbit/sec
04:02 mk01 _dab_: I'm not producer of Cubox. I'm just trying making from useless device a .... black box with red led (two actually)
04:02 _dab_ rx
04:03 _dab_ sorry
04:03 mk01 np
04:06 _dab_ too light to use as door stops?
04:06 mk01 if you have enough of them
04:07 mk01 use a duck tape
04:07 mk01 4 will do
04:07 mk01 shame you can't change the color of the led
04:08 mk01 you could have RED as "I'm in the room, do not approach". or green, as "I left, feel free to enter"
04:09 _dab_ and blue for somewhere in between
04:10 _dab_ going for a walk, bye
04:15 mk01 bye
09:48 aplund jnettlet: Did you have any patches which enabled UHS-1? When I remove the no-v-1-8 out of the device tree, I get a -110 (timeout?) error when the card is enabled.
13:39 AKL_ anyone successfully had a conversation with support? I haven't heard back from them in over a week
15:30 kaipee so I got xbmc running using 3.0.35
15:30 kaipee looks like hardware acceleration is working also (Vivante GC2000, OpenGL ES 3.02)
15:30 kaipee still had a few quirks, and sound wasn't working at all
15:32 kaipee and internet connection was very flakey
15:55 jnettlet kaipee, which distro?
15:59 kaipee Arch ARM
16:15 kaipee jnettlet here's some feedback about the current xbmc release on Arch (3.0.35) http://imx.solid-run.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=856&p=6456#p6456
16:16 jnettlet kaipee, xbmc runs against the 3.10 kernel if you are using the github version. I worked with the geexbox guys to get that fixed.
16:16 kaipee jnettlet does hardware acceleration work? I read that it didn't
16:16 jnettlet kaipee, it absolutely does
16:16 jnettlet smooth as can be actually.
16:17 kaipee what kernel?
16:17 kaipee what video drivers?
16:17 kaipee what firmware?
16:22 jnettlet they are all on SolidRun's github repo
16:27 kaipee I only see 3 projects on solidrun repo
16:27 kaipee https://github.com/SolidRun
16:29 jnettlet yes
16:29 jnettlet the graphics drivers from Yocto can be used. I think they have updated to the latest.
16:30 kaipee sorry, I'm not a system developer per se
16:36 AKL_ jnettlet you work for SolidRun?
16:41 jnettlet AKL_, not at all. Just a community developer
16:42 jnettlet kaipee, okay. have you checked the forums. I thought someone had already made an Arch recipe for the 3.10 kernel and drivers
16:42 kaipee jnettlet yeah I've read through quite a few, but they're a mess
16:43 kaipee I followed the guide on Arch ARM site to get Arch installed
16:43 kaipee (though it doesn't really mention anything about graphics drivers and such)
16:44 kaipee so I don't really know in what state the system is - what are correct/compatible package version and so on
16:57 AKL_ @jnettlet damn, trying to reach support is damn near impossible
17:41 rabeeh AKL_: here
17:41 AKL_ ?
17:42 rabeeh you had questions?
17:42 AKL_ I sent an email on the 14th and haven't received any response...my Cubox-i4Pro won't power on
17:44 rabeeh to whom did you send that email? Elinor?
17:45 AKL_ rabeeh sent one to support(at)solid-run.com and another through the online webform
17:45 rabeeh ok. so the online should have got to Elinor then.
17:45 rabeeh maybe i can help you out; what did you try to do?
17:46 rabeeh did you order that with a micro SD? (Android)
17:46 rabeeh are you powering it with Solidrun power supply? (5V / 3A)?
17:46 AKL_ multiple SD cards, multiple power supplies, no lights even when plugged in with just power cord
17:47 rabeeh is there a light on the optical SPDIF when hooking the power supply?
17:47 AKL_ no
17:47 rabeeh ok. so even if there is no micro SD in and the power supply is 5V; you should see a red light on the optical SPDIF
17:48 AKL_ I don't get any lights
17:48 rabeeh if you are not seeing that then it means that it fried; now can you look at the power supplies that you are using?
17:48 rabeeh are those from SolidRun? or yours?
17:49 AKL_ all mine, only thing I got from SolidRun is the cubox
17:50 rabeeh are those +5V?
17:50 AKL_ yes
17:53 rabeeh if there is no light then it means that it's fried
17:53 rabeeh i mean no light on the spdif optical out
17:53 AKL_ rabeeh year
17:53 rabeeh that's a base indication that the 5v to 3.3v internal conversion is there.
17:53 AKL_ *yeah
17:53 rabeeh i'm looking at your email
17:53 AKL_ awesome
17:55 rabeeh ok. sent out email
17:55 freinhard mk01: thx for the hdparm output!
17:56 freinhard for comparison: my beaglebone black does less than 10MB for unbuffered reads
17:56 freinhard +1 for cubox-i
17:57 freinhard mk01: by the way, which cubox-i did you test with?
18:02 freinhard could someone with an harddrive connected to the esata port test the throughput? "hdparm -tT /dev/sd?"? thx!
18:02 purch jnettlet: any howto's to do deb -> opkg conversions?
18:02 jnettlet purch, I have no idea.
18:03 jnettlet purch, apparently opkg can install .deb's directly
18:04 kaipee jnettlet fancy being a good soul and looking over > http://imx.solid-run.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=897 ?
18:04 kaipee :)
18:04 purch so it is packaging from source to geexbox?
18:04 jnettlet kaipee, quick look. The first problem is the xorg version.
18:05 jnettlet Really for the best compatibility use the latest 1.13 version. I think up to 1.14.3 works though.
18:05 jnettlet there is also a limit as to the mesa version supported.
18:06 kaipee only xorg-server 1-15.0-5 is available in the Arch ARM repo
18:07 jnettlet well there is your problem right there.
18:07 purch too new
18:08 jnettlet hopefully freescale will release some newer binaries soon
18:08 kaipee is there somewhere that lists currently working/compatible package versions for cubox/imx ?
18:09 jnettlet I would have figured the forums would have sorted that out. I have been too busy to keep track of all the maintainership.
20:16 kaipee is the hummingboard similar to the cubox-i4Pro?
20:16 kaipee can modules/drivers being interchanged?
20:21 jnettlet kaipee, yes.
20:22 jnettlet they are built from the same microsom (SOC and RAM) and most hardware is spec'd to be similar, although there are some differences.
20:22 Coolgeek if there is no difference, it's the same board :)
20:23 rabeeh there are additions in HB in some of it's versions
20:23 rabeeh like msata :)
20:23 kaipee ok thnx
20:23 rabeeh mini pci express, lvds, camera interface, analog audio in/out, usb hub for up to 4 ports USB
20:24 rabeeh oh; and SIM card for mini pci-e based cellular cards
20:24 mal- and a jetpack
20:26 kaipee can anyone confirm that wireless is detected and working fine with Arch 3.10 ?
20:26 kaipee I had Arch 3.10 on it yesterday but no wireless device was shown
21:13 rabeeh http://imx.solid-run.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=901
21:13 davorin you should do checkboxes, not radio buttons (o;
21:16 mal- :)
21:17 davori 21:17 * davorin likes them all, and maybe also the hb3.0 (o;
21:17 davorin and of course mops board based on usom...
21:20 rabeeh davorin: did you mean checkboxes or cuboxes?
21:24 mal- multipl. answers
21:24 mal- votes
21:26 rabeeh i love them all
21:27 rabeeh you can only change your vote; but one vote