| 00:08 | mal- | mk01 around? |
| 00:40 | Tenkawa | Greetings all |
| 00:40 | Tenkawa | anything new in the cubox world? |
| 00:44 | cbxbiker61__ | my cubox-i's are in the US, i should have them in a few days |
| 00:45 | cbxbiker61__ | 1 day to go from Israel to US |
| 00:46 | Tenkawa | cbxbiker61__: yay!! |
| 00:46 | Tenkawa | I still cant believe I walked into a microcenter and saw one on the shelf |
| 00:49 | Tenkawa | cbxbiker61__: mind you I'm not complaining |
| 00:50 | cbxbiker61__ | the reviews on newegg continue to be very positive |
| 00:50 | Tenkawa | you got the u4 right? |
| 00:50 | cbxbiker61__ | yep |
| 00:51 | Tenkawa | I think I'll have to add a u4 to use with my u2 |
| 00:51 | Tenkawa | then I should be done with the boxes I need |
| 00:51 | Tenkawa | in theory |
| 00:51 | Tenkawa | hehhehh |
| 00:51 | cbxbiker61__ | i usually buy top-end stuff, since it future-proofs |
| 00:51 | Tenkawa | I was going to get a u4 if I ordered but I couldnt pass up the one being in the local shop |
| 00:52 | cbxbiker61__ | i'm still using a sheevaplug, and since i do the xilka distro, there's really no need to drop support....until i get tired of building armv5 |
| 00:52 | Tenkawa | heheheh |
| 00:53 | Tenkawa | I almost bought one of those a long time back |
| 00:53 | Tenkawa | that or the guruplug I think |
| 00:53 | Tenkawa | cant remember which |
| 00:54 | Tenkawa | seems like satellit is having connection "fun" tonight |
| 00:55 | cbxbiker61__ | the cubox-i's are going to speed up my build process tremendously, since i do native builds |
| 00:55 | cbxbiker61__ | they'll build faster than my "old" i686 |
| 00:56 | cbxbiker61__ | actually i do distcc builds for most everything so some of the 16 jobs gets done on x86_64 |
| 00:56 | Tenkawa | ah |
| 00:57 | Tenkawa | yeah I distcc almost everything I build now on the arm platform |
| 00:57 | Tenkawa | although those are the 6 slowest arm boxes I have |
| 00:57 | cbxbiker61__ | even with distcc, the preprocessing is done on the arm box, so 4 cores will be a big thing |
| 00:58 | Tenkawa | yep |
| 01:05 | Tenkawa | time to run.. |
| 01:05 | Tenkawa | cheers all |
| 08:13 | _dab_ | Do we have a Google Chrome that runs on ARM (i.e. i4pro) |
| 08:13 | _dab_ | ? |
| 08:27 | jnettlet | _dab_, you can build chromium to run on ARM, but the only official Google Chrome for ARM is on Chromebooks |
| 09:07 | ralix | morning |
| 09:16 | jnettlet | ralix, is that actually you every morning or a bot? |
| 09:17 | ralix | its my :) |
| 09:17 | jnettlet | okay just checking |
| 09:17 | mk01 | heh |
| 09:17 | ralix | ;-) |
| 09:17 | mk01 | Lost 6usd to my wife |
| 09:18 | ralix | mk01, why? |
| 09:18 | jnettlet | what are you doing betting with USD? |
| 09:18 | mk01 | I was guessing bot |
| 09:18 | jnettlet | I think we are mostly in Europe here |
| 09:19 | mk01 | jnettletexactly. so how many ways are there you can 'use' some old USD ? :) |
| 09:31 | ralix | Where are you jnettlet ? |
| 09:34 | ralix | ah from Denmark, nice... |
| 09:52 | ralix | I just got a problem with my old Cubox. You will not start or will not progress at one point ... http://pastebin.com/As3iVTsY |
| 09:53 | ralix | Could use a look at it and give me a hint? |
| 09:59 | jnettlet | ralix, I am actually from the US but live in Denmark now. My wife is Danish |
| 10:01 | jnettlet | ralix, did just start happening with a new kernel? |
| 10:05 | ralix | my last sdcard was demaged,. With this old card start with the same error. At the moment i use a new card with the same error. I use http://www.solid-run.com/mw/index.php?title=Arch_Linux_ARM for installation. Sorry for my english ;) |
| 10:06 | ralix | I use this file ArchLinuxARM-cubox-latest.tar.gz |
| 10:12 | ralix | From time to time i hate my cubox. Soory@rabeeh ;) |
| 10:13 | Coolg33k | I have a heating problem with my old cubox too |
| 10:14 | ralix | my first is simply broken ... The second one have stayed until now. :) |
| 10:15 | jnettlet | Coolg33k, how so? The Armada chips run pretty cool |
| 10:16 | ralix | So I never had heat problems... with the old cubox |
| 10:16 | Coolg33k | jnettlet: I think so too, but, when it's a cold boot, it take forever to boot properly (using geexbox), after 10 or 15 min, it boot OK |
| 10:16 | Coolg33k | and when trying to play a file, after like 20min of playing, reboot |
| 10:17 | Coolg33k | and the heat sink is really hot |
| 10:18 | jnettlet | Coolg33k, I would report that to the geexbox guys. They should be able to investigate it. I am swamped with other stuff, but will probably getting back to Armada stuff next week. |
| 10:19 | jnettlet | I am hoping to merge my Armada workinto the 3.10.30 lts kernel so Cubox and Cubox-i can run off the same kernel |
| 10:19 | Coolg33k | jnettlet: it is only recently |
| 10:19 | Coolg33k | before that, it runs well for days / week |
| 10:19 | Coolg33k | so I don't think it's geexbox related |
| 10:19 | jnettlet | oh you haven't updated anything? |
| 10:19 | Coolg33k | nope |
| 10:19 | jnettlet | strange. |
| 10:19 | Coolg33k | yup |
| 10:20 | Coolg33k | I think there is somethink misconnected |
| 10:20 | Coolg33k | and, when heating up, it reconnect |
| 10:20 | Coolg33k | thermal expansion problem :/ |
| 13:00 | Tenkawa | greetings all |
| 13:02 | deniska | hello |
| 13:03 | Tenkawa | brb.. |
| 13:04 | Tenkawa | ok thats better |
| 13:11 | Tenkawa | oops |
| 13:33 | coin3d | hi |
| 16:14 | Tenkawa | time to find me a esata enclosure to move the ssd i have running my cubox-i from usb to sata |
| 16:14 | rabeeh | Tenkawa: simple enclosure or with port multiplier? |
| 16:14 | Tenkawa | rabeeh: probably simple with dc power |
| 16:14 | Tenkawa | i still need some current on the usb ports |
| 16:15 | Tenkawa | for another device i want to try |
| 16:15 | Tenkawa | i'm using a 3.14 kernel too though... been working great so far |
| 16:19 | davorin | ah rabeeh is here (o; |
| 16:20 | davorin | which port support 2160p, hdmi or lvds on i.mx6? |
| 16:20 | rabeeh | what is the resolution of 2160p? |
| 16:20 | rabeeh | i.e what is the X x Y? |
| 16:20 | Tenkaw | 16:20 * Tenkawa enjoys the bliss of headless server |
| 16:20 | davorin | as it says, double 1080p |
| 16:21 | davorin | 3840x2160 |
| 16:21 | rabeeh | lvds supports up to 160MHz pixel clock rate (afaik) |
| 16:21 | Tenkawa | no worry about the vid |
| 16:21 | Tenkawa | rabeeh: hey do you know what hz clock tick would be the most efficient to use in the kernel on the cubox-i u |
| 16:21 | Tenkawa | tra2? |
| 16:22 | rabeeh | Tenkawa: for xbmc, mk01 on xbian modifies that to 300 |
| 16:22 | rabeeh | but the default 100 should be good too |
| 16:22 | Tenkawa | i'm curre tly running it on 200 |
| 16:22 | rabeeh | for headless i doubt anyone cares about that |
| 16:22 | Tenkawa | true |
| 16:22 | rabeeh | why? |
| 16:22 | rabeeh | is there a specific reason? |
| 16:23 | Tenkawa | rabeeh: just experimenting |
| 16:23 | Tenkawa | nah |
| 16:23 | Tenkawa | got it running deadline too |
| 16:23 | rabeeh | mk01 on xbian claimed that it becomes smoother on switching the xbmc threads faster; the main target on that is rendering less than 30mSec |
| 16:23 | Tenkawa | going to run some sqlite tests on it soon |
| 16:24 | Tenkawa | rabeeh: one of my later goals is x264 transcoding |
| 16:24 | rabeeh | Tenkawa: oh |
| 16:24 | Tenkawa | really slow without gpu support |
| 16:24 | rabeeh | dv_ does that on the single processor with the new gst |
| 16:24 | Tenkawa | but i really dont want to go back to 3.10 |
| 16:25 | rabeeh | well.. vpu and gpu are really supported on 3.10 |
| 16:25 | Tenkawa | yeah i know |
| 16:25 | Tenkawa | i can wait |
| 16:25 | Tenkawa | heheh |
| 16:25 | rabeeh | he was able to do live transcoding of ~30Mbps h.264 advanced profile to base |
| 16:25 | Tenkawa | nice |
| 16:25 | rabeeh | it's impossible doing that with the a processor !!! |
| 16:26 | Tenkawa | yeah |
| 16:26 | rabeeh | well.. impossible is a big word; but tough |
| 16:26 | Tenkawa | i "might" entertain going back to 3.10 |
| 16:26 | Tenkawa | definitely want go get the esata going first |
| 16:26 | Tenkawa | (hopefu |
| 16:26 | Tenkawa | ly today or tomoorow) |
| 16:26 | Tenkawa | uggh my typing |
| 16:27 | cbxbiker61 | i'd also have to wonder about how well the quality holds up on a hardware conversion rather than sophisticated software like x264 |
| 16:27 | rabeeh | davorin: you need to check the pixel clock and if the imx6 supports that at all ! |
| 16:27 | Tenkawa | cbxbiker61: hmm.... good point |
| 16:27 | rabeeh | lvds is a no go i think; hdmi might be |
| 16:27 | Tenkawa | cbxbiker61: i wpu |
| 16:27 | Tenkawa | err |
| 16:27 | davorin | i guess some specs are wrong i found... |
| 16:27 | rabeeh | maybe on 25hz refresh |
| 16:27 | Tenkawa | would be using h.264 |
| 16:27 | davorin | on freescale it just says: 2 x 4XGA (2048x1536) or 2 x [1080p + WXGA (1280x720)] |
| 16:28 | davorin | and video core is 1080p only anyway... |
| 16:29 | rabeeh | davorin: do you have a 4k tv? |
| 16:29 | davorin | nope...my old pioneer plasma krp-500 reference tv |
| 16:29 | davorin | but ordering a 4k monitor soon.. |
| 16:29 | davorin | around us$ 600 |
| 16:29 | rabeeh | once you have it; i suggest to cat the modes file under /sys and see what it detects first of all |
| 16:30 | rabeeh | 600$ 4K monitor? where? :) |
| 16:30 | davorin | dell |
| 16:30 | davorin | well..dell sells it for us$ 699 officialy |
| 16:30 | davorin | and i get reseller price |
| 16:31 | davorin | http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=210-ACHO&baynote_bnrank=0&baynote_irrank=1&~ck=dellSearch |
| 16:31 | rabeeh | i'll buy one :) |
| 16:31 | davori | 16:31 * davorin too |
| 16:31 | davorin | and plug it to the nvidia board once it arrives... |
| 16:32 | davorin | "Tegra 4 sports video encode and decode pipelines to render 2160p at 24 FPS while Tegra K1 pushes that to 2160p at 30." |
| 16:33 | davorin | btw: hb2 arrived yesterday morning ;-) |
| 16:34 | rabeeh | good good :) |
| 16:34 | rabeeh | like? |
| 16:34 | davorin | and it is rainy weather atm...so perfect timing |
| 16:34 | davorin | showed it to a customer yesterday who picked up some stuff...rpi user... |
| 16:34 | davorin | he was really impressed |
| 16:34 | davorin | especially internal usb... |
| 16:34 | cbxbiker61 | yes that $600 4k monitor sounds good |
| 16:34 | davorin | which would then support lte usb modems |
| 16:35 | davorin | so far made no sense doing an add-on 3g/4g board for the pri and hook it up to a slow serial port ;-) |
| 16:35 | davorin | have some customers using currently the rpi for measerument and would like to have 3g/4g on-board for sending data |
| 16:35 | cbxbiker61 | i'll have to test hardware encoding when i get my cubox-i's, ultimate quality is not always important |
| 16:36 | davori | 16:36 * davorin uses adobe media encoder so far... |
| 16:36 | davorin | but then again...i just play back bluray rips... |
| 16:36 | davorin | no need to recode... |
| 16:36 | cbxbiker61 | my f9590 soaks up about 200 watts a full tilt |
| 16:37 | file | the hardware encoding is... okay |
| 16:37 | dv_ | the VPU supports h264 encoding, but apparently only the baseline profile |
| 16:37 | file | yeah |
| 16:38 | cbxbiker61 | so encoding most of my content at a few watts would be appealing |
| 16:38 | dv_ | On the other hand, with baseline the produced content is easier and faster to seek in |
| 16:39 | dv_ | I have some test videos with the high profile and extensive frame reordering |
| 16:39 | dv_ | Seeking takes a long time.. |
| 16:42 | cbxbiker61 | dv_ i set my keyint to occur once per second, seeks on high profile seem to be immediate for me |
| 16:43 | dv_ | That video has frame reordering latencies of 16 frames |
| 16:47 | davorin | rabeeh: the hb2 works out of the box with geexbox image? |
| 16:52 | jnettlet | davorin, the device-tree may need some tweaks |
| 16:53 | jnettlet | I will be getting mine next week and will get everything updated |
| 16:53 | Tenkawa | any of you running / on btrfs yet? |
| 16:53 | Tenkawa | or f2fs |
| 16:59 | Tenkawa | oh... will the cubox-i ultra boot from usb or esata by itself at all or will i always need to use a microsd? |
| 17:00 | jnettlet | Tenkawa, the bootloader is loaded from the SD card. |
| 17:01 | jnettlet | I have run with a rootfs on f2fs. |
| 17:01 | jnettlet | although f2fs has a major drawback as a filesystem if you are interested in fast booting. It is really really slow to mount. |
| 17:01 | Tenkawa | jnettlet: yeah i was worried there was no firmware/onboard ability to boot from the others |
| 17:01 | davorin | nope..doesn't work..just some strange characters in u-boot |
| 17:01 | Tenkawa | jnettlet: as long as its fast after boot then that doesnt bother mr |
| 17:02 | Tenkawa | davorin: bummer |
| 17:03 | jnettlet | davorin, which microsom do you have plugged into it? |
| 17:03 | davorin | usom-i4p |
| 17:03 | cbxbiker61 | jnettlet, f2fs slow to boot, hmmmm i havent' noticed that |
| 17:04 | davorin | https://shop.klingler.net/hb2_uboot.jpg |
| 17:04 | jnettlet | davorin, try with single or dual core |
| 17:04 | jnettlet | oh so it did boot. |
| 17:04 | davorin | power rails are fine.... |
| 17:04 | davorin | 5.02 and 3.278 on gpio pins |
| 17:05 | jnettlet | cbxbiker61, it is orders of magnitude slower to mount than ext4. |
| 17:05 | davorin | hmm..have to find the other usom modules on my messy desk (o; |
| 17:05 | cbxbiker61 | could be...i see 2.87 seconds on a cubox f2fs/usb mount |
| 17:05 | davorin | and try with the hb2-base |
| 17:06 | cbxbiker61 | although total boot time is only 10secs with systemd |
| 17:07 | jnettlet | davorin, get the new u-boot patchset rabeeh just merged from me. It looks like you are seeing some BSS corruption, which I think I fixed. |
| 17:07 | jnettlet | cbxbiker61, 10secs is so slooowwwww |
| 17:08 | jnettlet | I am working on sub-3 |
| 17:08 | jnettlet | 5 to gui |
| 17:08 | davorin | is the console on by default on gpio14/15? |
| 17:09 | jnettlet | yes |
| 17:09 | cbxbiker61 | it never hurts to improve boot time, but my 10 second time is on a router that reboots only when kernel version is updated |
| 17:09 | jnettlet | cbxbiker61, yes but the faster the reboot time the more reboots you get and still keep a 99.999 uptime :-) |
| 17:10 | jnettlet | as long as nothing breaks |
| 17:10 | cbxbiker61 | hehe, but what about the fsck's on ext? |
| 17:13 | rabeeh | booting xbmc in 5 seconds is a dream comes true :) |
| 17:14 | cbxbiker61 | Startup finished in 2.432s (firmware) + 2.243s (loader) + 1.264s (kernel) + 2.192s (userspace) = 8.132s |
| 17:14 | cbxbiker61 | that's my zotac ssd/f2fs |
| 17:14 | rabeeh | oh; f2fs ! |
| 17:14 | rabeeh | i wonder what f2fs will do for the boot time |
| 17:14 | cbxbiker61 | if you have a system crash all of that ext? gain is out the window due to fsck |
| 17:14 | davorin | jnettlet: your patches are in the solidrun git? |
| 17:17 | cbxbiker61 | i'm mostly big on f2fs because it was "designed" to respect flash devices |
| 17:19 | cbxbiker61 | i've got btrfs installed on a hybrid sshd, so far so good |
| 17:19 | rabeeh | finally i can reproduce the mysteriious 4GB micro SD issue |
| 17:20 | rabeeh | jnettlet: http://pastebin.com/jNbwffRs |
| 17:20 | rabeeh | this is the problem that MikeSeth has reported a month ago |
| 17:22 | rabeeh | imx6 is capable of loading the SPL code from the micro SD; but then the partition table is never detected with this micro SD |
| 17:23 | rabeeh | the micro SD is a Transcend 4GByte; but seems i have two versions that says "Transcend 4GByte" |
| 17:23 | rabeeh | one the works and other that doesn't; and it only doesn't work on i1 / i2 |
| 17:34 | davorin | no console output |
| 17:34 | sraue | rabeeh, ^^^ also the problem i have? |
| 17:35 | rabeeh | sraue: might turn out to be the same issue |
| 17:35 | rabeeh | in your case uImage gets corrupted |
| 17:35 | rabeeh | in the other case it's even trivial; partition table is not loaded |
| 17:35 | rabee | 17:35 * rabeeh is debugging |
| 17:36 | sraue | ok, let me know if you have a patch to try |
| 17:43 | davorin | pulled the uboot git... |
| 17:43 | davorin | still same garbage on uboot screen |
| 17:43 | davorin | this time with hb2-base and usom-i2 |
| 17:45 | davorin | ah wait...now boots into geex |
| 17:49 | davorin | # cat /sys/devices/virtual/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp |
| 17:49 | davorin | 60280 |
| 17:49 | davorin | definitively needs a heatsink (o; |
| 17:49 | davorin | okay...hb2-base and usom-i1 seems to work... |
| 17:50 | davorin | seems it was confused by the usb-console adapter |
| 17:50 | davorin | rabeeh: are you any further with cooling on hb2/3? |
| 17:50 | rabeeh | 60c is ok |
| 17:51 | rabeeh | 90c starts to throttle; i2 and beyond needs heatsink |
| 17:51 | davorin | as we say..if you can hold it with a finger for 1 second, then it is cold |
| 17:51 | rabeeh | remember this is the juntction temperature; and in the case of i1/i2 it's away from the surface of the chip |
| 17:52 | davorin | i'll build a case and cover it in oil |
| 17:52 | rabeeh | mineral oil? |
| 17:52 | davorin | dunno exactly what oil they use for cooling power transfoerms... |
| 17:52 | rabeeh | davorin: the simplest heat sink for i2 is good enough |
| 17:53 | rabeeh | the adhesive one |
| 17:53 | davorin | the small gpio header missing on base...can it just be soldered to have access to the pins? |
| 17:53 | rabeeh | oh; now please don't touch that :) |
| 17:53 | davorin | i might get a new one in my shop with matches the surface of the bga |
| 17:53 | davorin | no??? |
| 17:53 | rabeeh | no no |
| 17:53 | rabeeh | the 8 pin header was repurposed :) |
| 17:54 | rabeeh | it's not like the C1; it's used in the hb-pro as two extra usb host ports :) |
| 17:54 | davorin | so also not usable on the hb2-plus? |
| 17:54 | rabeeh | the reset function now is on board |
| 17:54 | davorin | ah only hb-pro has functions on that pins |
| 17:55 | davorin | i just thought it would be nice to use the pins... |
| 17:55 | davorin | even if it is only to make an add-on board more secure |
| 17:55 | davorin | instead of holding it just on one side as the piface.. |
| 17:55 | davorin | so 3g/4g modem only on the hb-pro then |
| 17:57 | davorin | hmm..still doesn't boot on hb-pro and usom-i4 |
| 17:57 | davorin | see shortly booting zimage..and then gone...hdmi output off |
| 17:58 | jnettlet | davorin, oh that is because we don't generate dtb files for those combo's yet. |
| 17:59 | jnettlet | the device-tree name is autogenerated, you can copy imx6dl-hummingboard.dtb to imx6q-hummingboard.dtb and it should boot but with just a single core enabled. |
| 18:00 | davorin | u-boot seems to work now with git pull... |
| 18:00 | davorin | thow no console on i4p and garbled on i1 |
| 18:00 | davorin | B-a_d: MX6-H+++i+gB-a_d |
| 18:00 | davorin | DRAM: 512 Mi????????'?--?e++i_-++e++ |
| 18:01 | davorin | and developing in 2.0/2.4 kernels was so easy (o; |
| 18:02 | davorin | curious how fast it would boot with rootfs on msata ssd |
| 18:03 | rabeeh | ok; i think i'v got into the root of this |
| 18:03 | rabeeh | after enabling CONFIG_MMC_TRACE in u-boot; the command set block size seems to fail |
| 18:04 | rabeeh | http://pastebin.com/rz4kS1ms |
| 18:04 | rabeeh | last command; any one familiar with SD protocol? |
| 18:05 | davorin | wasn't it back then you needed to have a license to use sd cards? |
| 18:05 | davorin | is the dtb the same for i2 and i2u? |
| 18:10 | davorin | hdmi stays on, but nothing else when copying over dtb |
| 18:12 | davorin | also doesn't loads bootloader correctly when just plugging in the power... |
| 18:13 | davorin | most of the times a manual reset must be done |
| 18:53 | davorin | hmm...what do i pass to have the kernel messages on console? |
| 18:58 | davorin | ah okay...usom-i4 doesn't even start the kernel.. |
| 19:13 | davorin | jnettlet; what you mean with "device-tree name is autogenerated" |
| 20:03 | rabeeh | sraue: https://github.com/SolidRun/u-boot-imx6/commit/dfb384fd31a103078b1e35dc83e53267367d4cf2 |
| 20:03 | rabeeh | this should fix MikeSeth issue too |
| 20:04 | rabeeh | but somehow the uart console became slower; needs further investigation |