| 18:19 | bencoh | ohmy ... cubox-i is shipped with android :( |
| 18:20 | bencoh | how did this endded as default distrib ? |
| 18:20 | deniska | still better than windows |
| 18:20 | bencoh | woops, can't even write proper english |
| 18:20 | deniska | But it makes me a bit sad |
| 18:20 | bencoh | it's definitely sad |
| 18:20 | deniska | bencoh: since when android is all over the place... |
| 18:20 | bencoh | :/ |
| 18:21 | deniska | normal desktop linux on non-x86 devices gets support nowadays just because it happened to use the same kernel as android |
| 18:21 | bencoh | yeah :/ |
| 18:47 | Guest97829 | You can install easily a new distribution |
| 18:52 | jnettlet | bencoh more than anything I think it is because people that want Linux can generally figure out how to install Linux, people that want Android not so much |
| 20:26 | iz | hi, anyone here playing with bsd on i4pro? |
| 20:29 | iz | trying to install openbsd armv7 |
| 21:20 | jnettlet | iz, Bluerise is the bsd guy |
| 21:46 | dxtr | I'd like *bsd on the original/classic/whateverit'scalled cubox :p |
| 21:48 | jnettlet | dxtr, I don't think there is anything that stopping that from happening. |
| 21:50 | dxtr | jnettlet: Probably not. I'm not sure if they're ported, though. And I don't have the time to do that right now |
| 21:51 | dxtr | Depending on how much freetime I have this summer I might give it a go |
| 21:52 | jnettlet | I am sure we can answer any hardware questions you might have. |
| 21:55 | dxtr | jnettlet: The first question I'd have to answer is "what hardware is it anyway?". Been so long since I bought it that I can't remember :P |
| 21:58 | dxtr | jnettlet: Could it be "cubox-i1" I'm running? |
| 21:58 | dxtr | Hmm |
| 21:58 | dxtr | It wasn't called that back then |
| 21:59 | dxtr | i2ex at least seems to be equivalent |
| 22:00 | dxtr | dual core, 1GB ram and gigabit ethernet |
| 22:32 | iz | so with the SPL and uboot on the cubox-i, can I just put a partition at 1 Mb offset and put whatever into a file called uEnv.txt? what partition types can that be? ext4? ext2? |
| 22:33 | Bluerise | [21:21:00] iz, Bluerise is the bsd guy |
| 22:33 | Bluerise | Well, the former OpenBSD, now Bitrig guy, yup. |
| 22:34 | iz | hey, okay, so i tried just flashing miniroot-imx-55.fs from openbsd's armv7 and that didn't even get past the bootloader |
| 22:35 | iz | so now i'm thinking I need to flash the SPL and u-boot.img in the first part of the card |
| 22:35 | Bluerise | that has two reasons: 1) the mini root doesn't incorporate SPL and u-boot for cubox and 2) the board isn't supported at OpenBSD |
| 22:35 | Bluerise | yeah |
| 22:35 | iz | and then put a partition at 1Mb offset |
| 22:35 | iz | and then can i just put bsd.rd.IMX.umg in that partition? |
| 22:36 | Bluerise | exactly. you still need to manually load and boot it (fat/ext2load + bootm), but that should work. |
| 22:36 | Bluerise | still, not with the openbsd one |
| 22:36 | iz | and then a uEnv.txt that says like bootfile=/bsd.rd.IMX.umg |
| 22:36 | Bluerise | http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/~checkout~/src/sys/arch/armv7/armv7/armv7.c?rev=1.3;content-type=text%2Fplain |
| 22:36 | Bluerise | this is basically the list of supported boards there,... |
| 22:37 | Bluerise | I tried to get to work as much as possible on the humming board I got -> https://github.com/bitrig/bitrig/blob/master/sys/arch/armv7/imx/imx.c#L35 |
| 22:38 | Bluerise | sd card didn't work, not sure what the issue is there. might be due to i.MX6 solo vs. quad |
| 22:39 | Bluerise | I wish my todo list was smaller... |
| 22:41 | dxtr | Bluerise: You work at conformal? |
| 22:42 | Bluerise | dxtr: No, I do not. Working for some OpenBSD firm in Germany. |
| 22:42 | dxtr | Right |
| 22:42 | Bluerise | Conformal != Bitrig, it's just that a few of those conformals work at Bitrig, too. ;) |
| 22:42 | Bluerise | :) |
| 22:43 | dxtr | Oh, right |
| 22:43 | dxtr | I haven't cared much for Bitrig |
| 22:45 | Bluerise | Well, it's a niche. |
| 22:45 | dxtr | I never even quite understood what the point of it is :P |
| 22:46 | Bluerise | It's basically OpenBSD trying to be a bit more modern. Ripping out gcc and replacing it with llvm and libc++, getting ARM to a more usable state, remove outdated architectures. |
| 22:47 | Bluerise | A colleague is working on a new... "SMP architecture" |
| 22:47 | Bluerise | basically, catching up to what other OSes have done for a few years, following a bit on dragonflybsd's approach |
| 22:47 | dxtr | Sounds neat |
| 22:48 | Bluerise | We're a small team, but it's still fun to work on that stuff. Slow but steady progress. |
| 22:48 | Bluerise | We actually ripped out libstdc++ a few weeks ago. |
| 22:48 | dxtr | I'm still waiting for OpenBSD for AVR |
| 22:48 | Bluerise | heh :) |
| 22:51 | dxtr | Bluerise: How's bitrigs rpi support? |
| 22:51 | dxtr | I have a couple of those lying around. I wanna decomission one of my servers and use something more.. Power effective |
| 22:52 | Bluerise | We decided not to support it. I know that really everyone has one, but dale and I wanted to focus on the newer machines. NEON support, vfp, armv7 |
| 22:52 | Bluerise | atomic operations |
| 22:53 | Bluerise | I wish the rPi had a more current cpu :/ |
| 22:53 | dxtr | So Beaglebone is my best bet if I want it cheap? :P |
| 22:54 | Bluerise | or some i.MX6 device |
| 22:54 | Bluerise | or sunxi/allwinner/cubieX |
| 22:54 | dxtr | Yeah, well, I hae my cubox |
| 22:54 | dxtr | have* |
| 22:54 | dxtr | (duh) |
| 22:54 | Bluerise | I have two ARM Chromebooks which I want to support... but that's still a long road. |
| 22:55 | Bluerise | I get keyboard input, I have some frame buffer, but it's not multiuser (probably just frame buffer set up only for early init) |
| 22:55 | dxtr | I want to build my own little device |
| 22:56 | Bluerise | I would've loved... www.crowdsupply.com/kosagi/novena-open-laptop |
| 22:56 | Bluerise | But that's just not my price range... |
| 22:56 | Bluerise | student life, eh |
| 22:57 | dxtr | I'd like a bigger monitor on that one |
| 22:57 | Bluerise | I think they had a retina one even |
| 22:58 | Bluerise | but had to overclock the chips for it... |
| 22:59 | dxtr | I want >=15" 1920x1080. Then I'm good |