| 06:40 | m_anish | Hi, does anybody know if the wifi module onboard the HB/Cubox supports hostapd, and somebody has gotten it to work. (in fedora preferably) |
| 07:18 | jnettlet | m_anish, oh I tracked you down. It is supposed to support hostapd and I have gotten it to work without encryption. |
| 07:18 | m_anish | jnettlet, nice! |
| 14:39 | paulk-collins | hey |
| 14:39 | paulk-collins | is HDMI audio output working well on the cubox-i |
| 14:40 | paulk-collins | also, what's its mainstream status? |
| 15:13 | jnettlet | paulk-collins, the upstream support exists for everything but the GPU and VPU (although some VPU support is landing), and I have some outstanding patches I need to submit |
| 15:14 | jnettlet | HDMI audio output is working really well. I am currently waiting on a new round of patches for HDMI and SPDIF that I will integrate in my 3.14 kernel |
| 16:35 | paulk-collins | jnettlet, very nice to hear that from you -- I know you're the guy when it comes to imx :) |
| 16:35 | paulk-collins | jnettlet, basically, I'm looking for a fully free software setup |
| 16:35 | paulk-collins | that I may use as a media center in the course of the year |
| 16:36 | paulk-collins | jnettlet, what do you think is the best regarding u-boot/linux upstream status? |
| 16:36 | paulk-collins | options seem to be: wandboard, cubox-i, utilite |
| 16:50 | jnettlet | paulk-collins, I wouldn't really say "the guy" but I have my hands dirty. Of course I am biased and would definitely recommend the Cubox-i, but that is partly because you are on #cubox |
| 16:51 | jnettlet | Really any are fine choices and most the platforms benefit from the work the community does. I will say that the Cubox-i tends to get a slight performance edge because of the speed and stability of the DDR memory which is important for graphics and media |
| 16:52 | jnettlet | A lot of the work being done is also being developed on and tested on the CBi and HB platforms because SolidRun is working hard to get their hardware in the hands of developers. |
| 16:59 | jnettlet | as for the media-center stuff, well that is a toss up. Some good process is being made on the GPU and most the other bits are pretty under control. |
| 17:00 | jnettlet | But for video decoding you are really going to want to use a hardware decoding engine and I don't know of any existing OSS ARM based decoding engines. |
| 17:00 | jnettlet | at least firmware free ones |
| 17:01 | jnettlet | and even if you do find one, the codecs are still patent encumbered in most countries. |
| 17:02 | jnettlet | that kind of drops you into NEON accelerated hardware decoding. Which works well for 720p, but anything more and you are going to run out of horsepower pretty quick. |
| 17:02 | jnettlet | not to mention the heat generated, and power used. |
| 17:04 | paulk-collins | jnettlet, people at linux-sunxi are working on free software for hardware video decoding on allwinner, but it comes with other issues |
| 17:04 | paulk-collins | jnettlet, what's the status of hardware video decoding on imx6? I can cope with a loaded non-free firmware, but I don't want a proprietary userspace blob |
| 17:06 | jnettlet | paulk-collins, no proprietary userspace blob and dv is working to create a more free licensed abstraction library |
| 17:07 | paulk-collins | so the current abstraction library is proprietary or not? |
| 17:07 | paulk-collins | or is it only a firmware? |
| 17:07 | paulk-collins | (that is non-free) |
| 17:07 | jnettlet | it is OSS but there are restrictions for patching and redistribution |
| 17:08 | jnettlet | the firmware is free to use but EULA protected |
| 17:08 | paulk-collins | ok then |
| 17:08 | jnettlet | so you can go and download it right now from Freescale's site. |
| 17:08 | paulk-collins | nice |
| 17:09 | jnettlet | it has the same openness as the firmware for most wifi cards. It is open enough and firmware enough that code running against it is accepted in the upstream kernel |
| 17:13 | jnettlet | paulk-collins, there are a lot of ARM chipsets right now, and SolidRun, Novena, Yocto, Pengutronix, and Boundary, etc are all really embracing the community spirit and moving the platform forward. |
| 17:14 | paulk-collins | yeah, that's really great |
| 17:14 | jnettle | 17:14 * jnettlet +1 |
| 17:14 | paulk-collins | sometimes, ARM platforms are promising but just lack a community of developers, it's great that i.MX has that |
| 17:16 | jnettle | 17:16 * jnettlet +1 |
| 17:17 | paulk-collins | I guess I'll buy a cubox-i quad; at first I was a bit put off by the lack of analog audio and the lack of usb ports, but I'll manage |
| 17:17 | paulk-collins | how many amps can each usb port provide? |
| 17:17 | jnettlet | paulk-collins, you can get a HummingBoard it has both |
| 17:17 | paulk-collins | mhh |
| 17:17 | paulk-collins | good point |
| 17:17 | paulk-collins | does it have an IR receiver too? |
| 17:18 | jnettlet | the pro model does. |
| 17:18 | jnettlet | although there is plenty of gpio, and i2c so you could add your own |
| 17:18 | jnettlet | depends how much you like hardware hacking |
| 17:18 | paulk-collins | http://www.solid-run.com/products/hummingboard/linux-sbc-specifications/ doesn't show a quad version |
| 17:19 | paulk-collins | jnettlet, that's always an option as well (hardware hacking) |
| 17:19 | jnettlet | you have to buy them separately. They aren't sold as a unit because without a proper heatsink etc they can get toasty |
| 17:20 | paulk-collins | ah ok |
| 17:20 | jnettlet | the Cubox-i has one of the best thermal designs you can get for a mini quad-core board |
| 17:20 | paulk-collins | well I'm in europe so I'll most likely order from newit |
| 17:20 | jnettle | 17:20 * jnettlet is also in EU |
| 17:20 | paulk-collins | do you know any other suppliers btw? |
| 17:20 | paulk-collins | I'm in france |
| 17:20 | paulk-collins | newit is kind of expensive |
| 17:23 | jnettlet | I think the forum keeps a list of all the resellers. As a dev I luckily don't have to buy my hardware :_ |
| 17:23 | jnettlet | :) |
| 17:24 | paulk-collins | funny that you still see that as a good thing |
| 17:24 | paulk-collins | usually, not buying hardware => having to work on a lot of different hardware people send you |
| 17:26 | jnettlet | pretty much. The Cubox's and Cubox-i's are just so damn cute though |
| 17:26 | paulk-collins | agreed |
| 17:26 | paulk-collins | did you work on the tegra version as well? |
| 17:26 | jnettlet | The original was Armada Dove based yes. |
| 17:27 | paulk-collins | so that's marvell, not nvidia/tegra, my bad |
| 17:27 | jnettlet | I was working on the ARM based XO laptops for OLPC which used similar Marvell SOC's |
| 17:28 | jnettlet | that is kind of how we crossed paths |
| 17:28 | paulk-collins | the ones with libertas? |
| 17:28 | jnettlet | both the XO-1.75 and XO-4 |
| 17:29 | jnettlet | the XO-1.75 kept the libertas wifi chipset, the XO-4 switch to the 8787 which used the mwifiex |
| 17:29 | paulk-collins | ok |
| 17:30 | paulk-collins | I'm working on an omap3 phone that uses libertas as well |
| 17:30 | paulk-collins | libertas_tf looks damn interesting, I should look into it when I have time |
| 17:31 | jnettlet | I thought that Marvell had discontinued the libertas line |
| 17:32 | paulk-collins | that's part of a wifi/bt combo from wi2wi, but yeah, that died as well |
| 17:32 | jnettlet | okay. That was the reason we switched over to the 8787, 802.11n and bt |
| 18:51 | paulk-collins | btw, what's the power budget for the cubox-i USB ports? |
| 18:57 | paulk-collins | looks like MIC2026-1YM can do 500mA per channel |
| 18:57 | paulk-collins | good enough |
| 19:13 | paulk-collins | also, where can I find schematic of the uSOM used in the cubox-i quad? |
| 19:31 | tekk | hi guys, i'm building a debian image based on https://wiki.debian.org/ArmHardFloatPort/CuBox-i... however, the first available primary partition sector on my sd card is 2048 rather than 1024... is that gonna cause me issues? |
| 19:37 | jnettlet | tekk, 2048 is preferred |
| 19:37 | tekk | why doesn't the makefile just have support for cross compilation |
| 19:37 | jnettlet | paulk-collins, the power is standard USB power for each port. |
| 19:37 | tekk | i get this when building uBoot /bin/bash: arm-linux-gcc: command not found |
| 19:38 | jnettlet | of course you need to make sure your source DC converter is supplying enough to power them adequately |
| 19:38 | tekk | that was the alias i guess, generated by the make mx6_cubox-i_config |
| 19:38 | tekk | i'm on a x86_64 debian system trying to build uBoot |
| 19:39 | jnettlet | tekk, set the path to your cross-compiler in your PATH variable and then set CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabihf- |
| 19:39 | jnettlet | or whatever other prefix your cross-compiler used |
| 19:39 | tekk | yeah i thought it was arm-linux-gnueabi |
| 19:40 | tekk | will gcc-4.7-arm-linux-gnueabi do? |
| 19:40 | tekk | or i guess the gcc-4.7-arm-linux-gnueabihf is better? |
| 19:40 | tekk | cubox-i uses hard float right? |
| 19:42 | tekk | sudo ln -s /usr/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc-4.7 /usr/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc |
| 19:42 | tekk | i'm getting there ;) |
| 19:46 | tekk | right... i've debootstrapped etc debian |
| 19:46 | tekk | build uBoot / SPL.... flasehd them with dd |
| 19:46 | tekk | anything else before i boot? |
| 19:46 | tekk | i'm guessing debian comes with a stock kernel |
| 19:47 | tekk | hmm |
| 19:47 | tekk | that didn't work |
| 19:47 | tekk | sec |
| 19:49 | tekk | http://mike.kz/boot_failure.jpg |
| 19:49 | tekk | so no kernel? |
| 19:55 | tekk | or am i mistaken? |
| 20:06 | tekk | (i'm building a kernel now) |
| 20:10 | tekk | reading a bit more it seems there is a lot more to it than the debian page suggests.... but thats ok... |
| 20:19 | jnettlet | tekk, sorry had to get the jambalaya started |
| 20:19 | tekk | haha, as you do |
| 20:19 | tekk | well i'm compiling the kernel now |
| 20:19 | jnettlet | okay great |
| 20:19 | tekk | then i plan on mounting my sd again |
| 20:19 | tekk | copying relevant bits to /boot |
| 20:19 | tekk | chrooting |
| 20:20 | tekk | then installing kernel modules i think |
| 20:20 | jnettlet | sd or sdhc? |
| 20:20 | tekk | sdhc |
| 20:20 | jnettlet | okay. |
| 20:20 | tekk | basically i'm using this now http://www.solid-run.com/community/post9240.html?hilit=SSH&sid=ce60d0b3d2f004a14f28c0edadb9b5a3 |
| 20:20 | jnettlet | OK |
| 20:20 | tekk | with some adaptations as i'm using debian / have already built+installed uBoot/SPL and deboostrap'd |
| 20:21 | tekk | do you know what the --second-stage debootstrap is about? |
| 20:21 | jnettlet | can't say I do. I would assume this would have to do with debian initramfs |
| 20:21 | jnettlet | let me look at the post more closely |
| 20:23 | jnettlet | tekk, oh I see. That is to do a debian "install" in an emulated environment onto the sdhc card |
| 20:24 | jnettlet | we should be able to build an initramfs that can do the same thing natively on the cubox-i |
| 20:24 | tekk | right ok |
| 20:24 | tekk | the only operations i've done on the sdhc so far are https://wiki.debian.org/ArmHardFloatPort/CuBox-i |
| 20:24 | jnettlet | or if you are using an SD card image or rootfs tarball you shouldn't really need it |
| 20:25 | jnettlet | okay, so that page is it all in one command qemu-debootstrap |
| 20:25 | jnettlet | seems like you are set then |
| 20:25 | tekk | ok great :) |
| 20:25 | tekk | gonna do the rest of the bits now |
| 20:32 | tekk | ah shit |
| 20:32 | tekk | if you have a debian sid/jessi image running somewhere |
| 20:32 | tekk | could you paste me your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://pasti.ng cheers |
| 20:33 | tekk | is this good enough? http://pasti.ng/p/Gibqredb (i just made it up) |
| 20:38 | tekk | well... gonna boot now :) |
| 20:40 | tekk | hmm |
| 20:40 | tekk | well |
| 20:40 | tekk | i don't see the uboot screen any longer |
| 20:40 | tekk | hdmi signal is there |
| 20:40 | tekk | but just black / offblack |
| 20:41 | tekk | maybe i needed to include something in the kernel for console over hdmi?... i used the git upstream from solidrun... so i thought that was pre-patched? |
| 20:44 | tekk | corrected... the uboot screen briefly comes up |
| 20:44 | tekk | definately some video issue i think.... i'm gonna chroot into the sd card.. edit /etc/network/interfaces to try get network and see if i can ping the box |
| 20:51 | tekk | hmm still no joy... perhaps my kernel is a dud |
| 22:02 | Lil | anyone have a i4pro with debian running? |
| 23:14 | tekk | argghhh.. why can't i get ubuntu 14.04 running on this thing!!! |
| 23:14 | tekk | i got debian runing... so assumed it'd be straight forward |