| 05:50 | CovertOps | hello can someone answer a few questions about the hummingboard? |
| 05:53 | maybethistime | a person cannot answer a question that has not been asked |
| 06:02 | CovertOps | first, will the mSATA work with a regular external hard drive plugged in to a 7-pin sata to msata adapter? |
| 06:06 | CovertOps | second, is the msata even compatible with the i4pro microsom? |
| 06:14 | CovertOps | third, does the ubuntu image for cubox work for the hummingboard? the website advertises that it works with ubuntu but i do not see a download for an ubuntu image specifically for the hummingboard. |
| 06:26 | CovertOps | hello? |
| 15:53 | CovertOps | hello |
| 16:00 | CovertOps | is there anyone actually here who can answer some questions? |
| 16:07 | kgp__ | always |
| 16:08 | kgp__ | But it's more effective to just ask the question instead of asking if someone can answer some questions ;) |
| 16:09 | kgp | rabeeh: ready with git? |
| 16:11 | CovertOps | well i asked last night and no one answered... |
| 16:12 | CovertOps | i'm trying to find out how similar the hummingboard with the i4pro microsom is to the cubox i4pro |
| 16:13 | CovertOps | i read that the mSATA connector is for a solid state drive, but can an mSATA to 7-pin SATA adapter work with a regular external hard drive with a SATA connector? |
| 16:14 | CovertOps | also, the website says the hummingboard can run ubuntu, but i don't see an image specifically for the hummingboard, just for the cubox. does the cubox image work on the hummingboard? |
| 16:15 | kgp | debian is the most mature image imo |
| 16:17 | kgp | The best option imo is to buy a mSata SSD drive. |
| 16:18 | kgp | it's 10-20% more expensive in comparaison to a ssdk drive. |
| 16:20 | CovertOps | i already have a 3tb external hard drive with lots of media on it. i don't want to have to clone it over. i was wondering if i could plug it in to the hummingboard's sata port |
| 16:22 | CovertOps | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3XT1D86814&cm_re=msata_adapter-_-9SIA3XT1D86814-_-Product |
| 16:22 | CovertOps | there's an adapter that will plug in to the msata slot |
| 16:22 | CovertOps | my guess is no one has tried? |
| 16:30 | jnettlet | CovertOps, there is no reason that should not work, but nobody has tried yet. |
| 16:30 | jnettlet | you would just need to wire up your own external power-supply as mSata does not provide enough on its own |
| 16:31 | CovertOps | oh yeah that's no problem. the hard drive enclosure provides power to the hard drive |
| 16:31 | jnettlet | the hummingboard has both 5.5 and 3.3 volts available on the pin header |
| 16:31 | CovertOps | also, do you know if most of the rasperry pi expansion boards will be software compatible with the hummingboard? |
| 16:32 | jnettlet | CovertOps, most yes, but there are some caveats. |
| 16:32 | CovertOps | what do you mean? |
| 16:32 | jnettlet | boards like the Wolsen Audio that use the second 8 pin header won't work |
| 16:32 | CovertOps | ah |
| 16:32 | jnettlet | Wolfsen |
| 16:32 | CovertOps | mainly, i'm trying to find an i/o board that has both digital i/o and analog inputs |
| 16:33 | jnettlet | some software modifications may need to be made as the GPIO numbering is not the same. Similar to A vs B versions |
| 16:33 | CovertOps | ah ok |
| 16:33 | CovertOps | so do you know if the navio autopilot shield for rasperry pi would work? |
| 16:34 | jnettlet | we have reached out to the developer that does Wiring Pi and he is going to add support for the HB in his IO abstraction layer |
| 16:34 | CovertOps | oh that's nice |
| 16:35 | CovertOps | i'm mainly trying to decide between building a hummingboard with i4pro microsom, or getting a cubox-i4pro. i was also looking at the banana pi. |
| 16:36 | CovertOps | i need something that will replace my htpc media server, can run sickbeard, bittorrent, etc, but also something i can tinker around with robotics |
| 16:36 | CovertOps | don't have the money to get two separate devices right now |
| 16:36 | jnettlet | The Navio works on the Banana Pi so I believe it should work on the HummingBoard. |
| 16:36 | CovertOps | ok thanks! that helps me make my decision |
| 16:36 | jnettlet | the HB can definitely do all of that |
| 16:36 | CovertOps | so the debian image for HB is pretty solid then? |
| 16:37 | TrojanHorse | debian is solid |
| 16:37 | CovertOps | well i know debian is solid. i'm asking if the image for HB is |
| 16:37 | jnettlet | it is pretty solid. We are optimizing it to make it better and more supportable now though |
| 16:38 | CovertOps | and the wifi/bluetooth/gui all work? |
| 16:39 | CovertOps | by the way, i am definitely leaning towards getting a hummingboard. i definitely will support an israel-based company =) |
| 16:41 | jnettlet | yes they all work |
| 16:41 | jnettlet | although they will be cleaned up more in the coming weeks |
| 16:42 | CovertOps | but that's all a matter of updating firmware right? |
| 16:42 | kgp | Why not connecting directly an arduino to the hummingboard? |
| 16:43 | CovertOps | kgp, that was something i'm considering |
| 16:43 | jnettlet | kgp, CovertOps, there is an expansion board that does that. one sec |
| 16:45 | CovertOps | are you talking the "sheild bridge" that plugs in to the GPIO, then arduino plugs into that? |
| 16:46 | kgp | that's the idea. |
| 16:46 | kgp | Or using USB port... |
| 16:47 | kgp | (USB = the lazy guy solution ...) |
| 16:47 | CovertOps | check this out: |
| 16:47 | CovertOps | speaking of usb |
| 16:47 | CovertOps | http://www.tinyosshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=372 |
| 16:48 | CovertOps | i was thinking of using one of those to control a few lights and garage doors in my house |
| 16:48 | CovertOps | could interface it with a hummingboard, or rasperry pi with an i/o board with attached sensors and stuff |
| 16:48 | CovertOps | can control it manually, or automatically with sensors |
| 16:49 | CovertOps | my main problem is the GPIO of the pi/HB is only digital. there are a few analog-to-digital converter expansion boards out there |
| 16:49 | kgp | Something like http://www.dx.com/p/arduino-nano-v3-0-81877?Utm_rid=28739841&Utm_source=affiliate |
| 16:49 | CovertOps | i'm also very tempted to get the Arduino Mega ADK |
| 16:49 | CovertOps | yeah something like that would be nice and easy |
| 16:49 | curlymo | That's what http://www.pilight.org is for |
| 16:49 | CovertOps | can just hook that up to my analog sensors and gather input through usb |
| 16:50 | curlymo | we're looking into HB support |
| 16:50 | TrojanHorse | I believe PWM can be used for A/D conversion |
| 16:50 | TrojanHorse | if HB has PWM output (which I dont know) |
| 16:50 | curlymo | You can be up and running for about $ 10 |
| 16:50 | CovertOps | oh hey that's neat |
| 16:51 | CovertOps | curlymo, and that would work using the regualr gpio pins without an analog-digital converter? |
| 16:51 | curlymo | yes |
| 16:51 | jnettlet | here it is. http://www.dfrobot.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=1148#.U8_QinV53Ua |
| 16:51 | TrojanHorse | D/A I mean ........ |
| 16:52 | CovertOps | jnettlet, so i could plug the arduino nano into that on my HB? |
| 16:53 | CovertOps | oh is that an arduino itself? |
| 16:54 | jnettlet | yes that has an arduino on board |
| 16:54 | CovertOps | ah. i've seen other robotics sheilds specifically for the pi that have i/o for robotics though |
| 16:54 | curlymo | don't but a GPIO capable device when using arduino's |
| 16:54 | curlymo | quit useless |
| 16:55 | CovertOps | http://www.mikronauts.com/raspberry-pi/robopi/ |
| 16:55 | CovertOps | what about this? |
| 16:56 | CovertOps | it's based on parralax's propellor board it seems |
| 16:57 | kgp | In the product I shared with you, you just connect the USB to a Linux (Android, Ubuntu, Debian / ARM) |
| 16:57 | kgp | and you should see a serial device on /dev/ttyUSB0. You can then use screen to connect and communicate |
| 16:57 | kgp | with this device. I did some tests on android and ubuntu with success - need to test on to Cubox/Debian ;) |
| 16:57 | TrojanHorse | screen can use serial ports? I didnt know that, soudns pretty awesome |
| 16:57 | TrojanHorse | I kept using minicom |
| 16:57 | CovertOps | ok that is neat |
| 16:58 | jnettlet | I use both. They each have their plus and minuss |
| 16:59 | Z0l | hello |
| 16:59 | CovertOps | well i guess i'm sold on the HB. making sure to get the i4pro microsom though |
| 16:59 | TrojanHorse | making sure to generate lots of heat? |
| 17:00 | kgp | screen was the most effective for me ;) |
| 17:00 | CovertOps | aye |
| 17:00 | CovertOps | i read somewhere it does come with a heatsink |
| 17:00 | jnettlet | it does. but heatsinks just draw the heat away from the chip. |
| 17:00 | CovertOps | yeah... |
| 17:01 | CovertOps | at least it can be open. i imagine the cubox i4pro's generate a lot of heat inside that little box |
| 17:01 | jnettlet | oh, and the heatsink will probably interfere with Pi expansion boards |
| 17:01 | jnettlet | I will have to measure that. |
| 17:01 | CovertOps | oh well my plan was to use an extra header |
| 17:01 | CovertOps | if it gets in the way |
| 17:01 | jnettlet | that will work |
| 17:01 | CovertOps | can always add an extra header or two with supports between the boards |
| 17:02 | kgp | >> screen /dev/ttyS0 19200,cs8 |
| 17:02 | CovertOps | it would almost be nice if the headers stuck downward through the board so that the sbc sitc on top. but then again i guess when you're working with wiring on the expansion boards, you want to be able to get to stuff |
| 17:03 | CovertOps | i intend to use one of those open, multi-level rack mount things anyway |
| 17:04 | jnettlet | you can always heat them up and poke the pins down if you want it that way :-) |
| 17:04 | CovertOps | https://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi-cases/multi-pi/multi-pi-stackable-raspberry-pi-case |
| 17:05 | CovertOps | i don't trust myself to solder |
| 17:05 | CovertOps | my hands shake |
| 17:05 | jnettlet | fair enough |
| 17:06 | CovertOps | i'm a big fan of breadboards heh |
| 17:08 | kgp | https://www.dropbox.com/s/mobwdbfozl8136o/IMG_20140724_013025.jpg <- My way of stacking board ;) |
| 17:10 | jnettlet | are those pi's? |
| 17:10 | kgp | It's a tube for fish (<$1 / meter) with (something to tie wire together.) |
| 17:10 | kgp | yes jnettlet |
| 17:11 | kgp | https://www.dropbox.com/s/gfi0acalxmtcrkv/IMG_20140724_012929.jpg |
| 17:11 | kgp | And my result: https://www.dropbox.com/s/58w2aigix471wss/IMG_20140724_221446.jpg |
| 17:11 | kgp | But not working as great as expected.... ;) |
| 17:11 | CovertOps | i was pondering just getting a pi |
| 17:12 | CovertOps | those b+ _look_ nice, but why are they so painfully underpowered? |
| 17:12 | CovertOps | i mean, a dual core 1ghz with 1gb ram would cost them like $20-25 more to produce |
| 17:12 | CovertOps | at most |
| 17:12 | kgp | It does the work for many cases... ;) |
| 17:13 | kgp | I have a webcam for 0.150 amps * 5v = less than 1 Watt |
| 17:13 | kgp | It's good for some usages... |
| 17:13 | jnettlet | will everything that rabeeh has jammed onto the HBpro board the Pi looks so empty |
| 17:13 | CovertOps | anyway, the hwat this thing will put out will be far less than what my existing server does |
| 17:13 | TrojanHorse | CovertOps, teh RPi foundation was pretty straight about their goal to make teh devices cheap |
| 17:13 | TrojanHorse | so 20$ more is a nogo for them |
| 17:14 | CovertOps | heat i mean |
| 17:14 | CovertOps | yeah i know |
| 17:14 | CovertOps | i read their press releases |
| 17:14 | CovertOps | but i'd pay $30 more for a "model c" |
| 17:14 | jnettlet | also adding SMP is another level of development overhead. |
| 17:14 | jnettlet | you would expect things to just work, but that is rarely the case |
| 17:15 | kgp | Model C is what solidrun is building ;) |
| 17:15 | kgp | Not "totally" compatible... |
| 17:15 | CovertOps | right |
| 17:15 | CovertOps | total compatibility is the goal |
| 17:17 | CovertOps | there is one thing that i really like about the b+, they've moved the composite video to the 3.5mm jack |
| 17:19 | CovertOps | that's also a big part of why i'm going with a hummingboard instead of a cubox, the composite video |
| 17:19 | CovertOps | i still have 2 crt tv's that only have rca inputs |
| 17:19 | kgp | HDMI tv are not expensive... : |
| 17:19 | kgp | HDMI tv are not expensive... :) |
| 17:25 | CovertOps | don't have that much money to be throwing around |
| 17:26 | CovertOps | eventually will upgrade |
| 17:26 | jnettlet | CovertOps, there is no composite video. On the HB that is spdif coax audio |
| 17:26 | CovertOps | oh it is? i assumed it was composite video since it's yellow |
| 17:26 | CovertOps | i see that now.. |
| 17:28 | CovertOps | hm |
| 17:28 | CovertOps | might as well get a cubox then i suppose |
| 17:30 | CovertOps | my main purpose is to replace my htpc server. don't really even need a display, just need it to run sickbeard, bittorrent, and a dlna server with attached external storage |
| 17:33 | CovertOps | but then that kills the robotics/automation tinkering idea |
| 17:34 | jnettlet | why is that? |
| 17:34 | jnettlet | do you have a current computer with a display? You can always throw X-windows back to your main computer. |
| 17:36 | CovertOps | true |
| 17:36 | CovertOps | i don't know why i didn't even think of xrdp/vnc |
| 17:36 | CovertOps | i do it all the time to my current server |
| 17:36 | CovertOp | 17:36 * CovertOps facepalms |
| 17:36 | jnettlet | sure that will work also |
| 17:36 | CovertOps | also, don't really need to plug it in to the older tv's |
| 17:36 | CovertOps | the display would be shit anyway |
| 17:37 | jnettlet | yes |
| 17:37 | CovertOps | i have a android box that works fine for that anyway |
| 17:37 | CovertOps | taffymc, it's a clone of the original gbox midnight |
| 17:38 | CovertOps | it's kind of a piece of crap, but it gets the job done |
| 17:38 | CovertOps | the composite video actually didn't work with the linux that came on it, had to flash it back to android and it works okay |
| 17:40 | CovertOps | but the build of android also sucks. |
| 17:41 | jnettlet | well both our Linux and Android support is getting better daily |
| 17:41 | CovertOps | which brings me to the rpi/hummingboard decision, i want a sbc that can run linux much better |
| 17:45 | CovertOps | so why not put a regular SATA or eSATA connector on the HB? |
| 17:45 | CovertOps | the banana PI has a SATA connector and i believe supplies enough power for a laptop hard drive |
| 17:46 | jnettlet | yes, but they don't have the microsom board, so they have a bit more space |
| 17:46 | Z0l | can somebody help with debugging a soft lockup? |
| 17:47 | jnettlet | really you can't add an esata connector that can work with Pi cases |
| 17:47 | Z0l | i think it's related to reading out the edid with i2c via the hdmi port: http://pastebin.com/P8EDZwGt |
| 17:47 | jnettlet | it would be easy enough to make different board form factors. Perhaps that will come down the road. |
| 17:48 | jnettlet | Z0l, I am looking at it. |
| 17:49 | Z0l | jnettlet: thanks. I think it was you who suggested turning of cpuidle to see if it fixes it, right? |
| 17:49 | Z0l | *off |
| 17:49 | jnettlet | Z0l, that is a different rcu stall |
| 17:51 | jnettlet | Z0l, is this using and hdmi -> dvi cable by any chance? |
| 17:51 | Z0l | nope |
| 17:51 | Z0l | it's hdmi (tried already with 2 cables and 2 different ports) |
| 17:51 | Z0l | to a sony bravia 40w5500 |
| 17:51 | CovertOps | could cut a hole in a rpi case and make room for this http://www.microsatacables.com/msata-to-7-pin-sata-dapter/ |
| 17:52 | Z0l | and i think it's related to hotplug (because it happens everytime i change the hdmi input to the cubox, or when it boots up with the input set to the appropriate hdmi input), but it doesn't happen otherwise |
| 17:52 | CovertOps | my question there is, can you tell me if that would fit or is the connector on the hummingboard the reverse? |
| 17:52 | jnettlet | of course you could, but that isn't very marketing friendly :-) compatible with most Pi cases if you cut a hole in the side |
| 17:53 | jnettlet | CovertOps, that will work, but you will need the extender in order to be able to screw it down |
| 17:54 | jnettlet | it would be nicer if there was a connector that wasn't perpendicular |
| 17:54 | CovertOps | yeah i agree. i saw one the other day that had a few different connectors too. it had sata, esata, and usb3.0 connectors |
| 17:56 | jnettlet | CovertOps, the pro also has a mini-pcie connector that might work better for you |
| 17:56 | jnettlet | some of those have dual sata connectors |
| 17:56 | Z0l | jnettlet: also, these stalls are always preceded with this text: mxc_hdmi 20e0000.hdmi_video: mxc_edid_read_internal |
| 17:56 | CovertOps | hm |
| 17:56 | jnettlet | http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/PM362.html |
| 17:57 | CovertOps | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?gclid=CJza2KTCgcACFSyCMgodD1oApQ&Item=N82E16816124059&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-Controllers+%2f+RAID+Cards-_-N82E16816124059&ef_id=U9EiLQAAAMvktY9C:20140807155718:s |
| 17:58 | CovertOps | will that work? |
| 17:58 | jnettlet | Z0l, can you probe that bus with i2c tools to see if it shows up? |
| 17:58 | jnettlet | CovertOps, nope, has to be half size |
| 17:58 | CovertOps | oh because of the sd slot? |
| 17:58 | Z0l | i don't have i2ctools in this distro, let me try to crosscompile it and get back |
| 17:59 | jnettlet | CovertOps, the mPCIe slot is on the top of the board. mSata is on the bottom |
| 17:59 | CovertOps | oh so it's essentially reversed contacts? |
| 18:00 | CovertOps | i'm really not sure i see the difference |
| 18:04 | jnettlet | CovertOps, http://www.solid-run.com/product/hummingboard-carrier-pro/ |
| 18:04 | jnettlet | the connector in between the coax spdif and hdmi is the mPCIe port. In the next photo the connector on the bottom is mSATA |
| 18:05 | CovertOps | ohhh i didn't even see a connector there |
| 18:06 | CovertOps | i see that now |
| 18:06 | curlymo | The HB i2eX is really awesome :) |
| 18:06 | CovertOps | so would you suggest getting it with the i4pro som or is the i2ex sufficient? |
| 18:07 | curlymo | what's the difference? |
| 18:07 | CovertOps | because the banana pi is also awfully tempting, if not for the gpio header butting up against the composite video out |
| 18:07 | CovertOps | i4pro is a quad-core, i2ex is dual-core |
| 18:07 | CovertOps | essentially, 4ghz vs 2ghz |
| 18:08 | curlymo | damn, still haven't got the fastest HB here :p |
| 18:08 | CovertOps | to get it with the quad core, you have to build it separately |
| 18:08 | CovertOps | http://www.solid-run.com/product/hummingboard-carrier-pro/ |
| 18:08 | CovertOps | then you can choose the microsom you want with it |
| 18:08 | curlymo | and you can already cook some eggs on the i2ex |
| 18:09 | curlymo | maybe you can cook a 4 person meal on the i4pro |
| 18:09 | CovertOps | they get that hot eh? |
| 18:09 | curlymo | yes |
| 18:10 | curlymo | about 80C |
| 18:10 | CovertOps | something to worry about? |
| 18:10 | curlymo | Do they have the heatsinks available yet? |
| 18:10 | CovertOps | yeah i saw on a forum that they're shipping with a heatsink |
| 18:10 | curlymo | I have a simple ebay RPi heatsink on it |
| 18:11 | CovertOps | does it have an internal cpu temp sensor? |
| 18:11 | jnettlet | CovertOps, yes, and thermal protection. |
| 18:11 | CovertOps | jnettlet, and they're definitely shipping with heatsinks now? |
| 18:11 | jnettlet | CovertOps, with what you have mentioned doing I would probably recommend the i2ex. |
| 18:12 | jnettlet | for DLNA the VPU could handle most the transcoding with very little CPU needed. |
| 18:12 | CovertOps | really? i put a lot through my media server. i often stream to 2 or more devices at once |
| 18:12 | CovertOps | and to do that while also downloading |
| 18:13 | jnettlet | that should be no problem |
| 18:13 | CovertOps | how is the heat problem handled in the cubox? |
| 18:13 | CovertOps | i assume the cubox i4pro gets just as hot? |
| 18:13 | jnettlet | more the transfers will be handled with the sdma engine |
| 18:13 | Z0l | jnettlet: i have i2c-tools now and i have 1 i2c adapter available, what should I poll? |
| 18:13 | jnettlet | Z0l, bus 1 |
| 18:14 | jnettlet | you should see the ddc on address 50 |
| 18:15 | jnettlet | CovertOps, the CBi has an excellent thermal design that manages the heat of the quad |
| 18:15 | CovertOps | what do you mean? the case itself? |
| 18:15 | Z0l | jnettlet: I see it at 60: http://pastebin.com/7FVnuei1 |
| 18:15 | jnettlet | that isn't good |
| 18:17 | Z0l | sorry, it's 68, but you should've figured that out already |
| 18:17 | jnettlet | yes, that is still wrong |
| 18:17 | CovertOps | so what do you guys think of the banana pi? |
| 18:18 | CovertOps | viable competitor or fly-by-night? |
| 18:19 | jnettlet | I don't think Allwinner can compete with Freescale for OSS and upstream support. |
| 18:19 | CovertOps | that is true |
| 18:20 | jnettlet | there is a lot of community support for the FSL soc's right now. |
| 18:20 | CovertOps | it seems like there is a lot of support growing for the banana. they also have prepared images for several distros of linux, though the kernel is 3.04 |
| 18:20 | jnettlet | and that is where it will most likely stay. |
| 18:21 | CovertOps | the composite out and sata connector on-board is tempting. the gpio moved up against the composite out is a major drawback though |
| 18:21 | Z0l | jnettlet: do you know if it is possible to disable edid reading? on the pi it's possible to replace it with an edid.dat file, is that possible on the cubox? |
| 18:22 | CovertOps | where would someone really notice a difference between the i2ex and the i4pro? |
| 18:25 | jnettlet | Z0l, not currently no. If you edit the .dts file and remove the ddc entries for the hdmi connection it should fall back to the default hdmi resolution list |
| 18:25 | jnettlet | could you post your entire dmesg output for me to look at quick? |
| 18:27 | CovertOps | curlymo, what do you use your i2ex for? |
| 18:27 | CovertOps | curlymo, what do you use your i2ex for? |
| 18:28 | curlymo | helping port XBian and later on pilight |
| 18:28 | CovertOps | ah |
| 18:28 | Z0l | certainly, here you are:http://pastebin.com/kfi7ukfg |
| 18:28 | CovertOps | i'm wondering when would someone actually notice a significant performance difference between the i2ex and i4pro |
| 18:29 | curlymo | depends on the application |
| 18:29 | Z0l | jnettlet: the first oops was during bootup, the tv was left on the cubox's hdmi input |
| 18:29 | Z0l | jnettlet: the second is related to caam, i don't think that has got anything to do with this one |
| 18:29 | Z0l | jnettlet: and the third one was me changing input and changing it back |
| 18:29 | curlymo | multithreaded applications largely benefit from more cores |
| 18:30 | Z0l | the kernel is geexbox default enhanced with some debugging, that's why you'll see the errors for the modules |
| 18:33 | CovertOps | it's only a $20 difference for 2 extra cores. kind of seems worth it to me, except for the heat issue |
| 18:34 | CovertOps | but if that can be solved with a decent heatsink, and maybe a fan, then really i'm better off than my current server |
| 18:34 | curlymo | don't know it there will be any difference in heat between the two |
| 18:35 | CovertOps | yeah in that case i'd probably rather spend the extra $20 and get the most out of it |
| 18:35 | curlymo | don't know it there will be any difference in heat between the two |
| 18:36 | curlymo | the single core also gets 83C without doing much |
| 18:36 | curlymo | so they all get hot |
| 18:37 | CovertOps | makes sense |
| 18:37 | CovertOps | is that with or without a heatsink? |
| 18:39 | CovertOps | is that with or without a heatsink? |
| 18:39 | curlymo_ | single core has a black outer package |
| 18:40 | curlymo_ | dual and quad have nothing. Just open chip. |
| 18:40 | CovertOps | considering that a typical pc cpu gets up to about 55-60C with a good heatsink and a fan |
| 18:40 | curlymo_ | it is made for 105C |
| 18:41 | curlymo_ | do i still work? |
| 18:41 | curlymo_ | ok |
| 18:41 | CovertOps | so last question, just want to make sure that the power source is just a typical micro-usb connector? |
| 18:41 | curlymo_ | faulty ping |
| 18:41 | CovertOps | 5v 2A? |
| 18:41 | curlymo_ | yes |
| 18:41 | CovertOps | heh saves me $10 |
| 18:42 | curlymo_ | still waiting for the banana pi so i can say something about that as well |
| 18:42 | CovertOps | yeah i've been eyeing the banana pi too |
| 18:43 | CovertOps | the board itself has some nice features that are awfully tempting |
| 18:43 | CovertOps | but i have significant doubts about quality and support |
| 18:43 | curlymo_ | they told me they had shipped one already, but never saw it arrive |
| 18:43 | curlymo_ | chinese mail... |
| 18:43 | CovertOps | yeah chinese... |
| 18:43 | CovertOps | i am more inclined to buy something from solid-run and support an israel-based company |
| 18:43 | curlymo_ | i'm more inclined to stay neutral |
| 18:45 | CovertOps | i suppose that's prudent |
| 18:45 | curlymo_ | in the end, pinky and the brain will take over the world anyway |
| 18:46 | CovertOps | in the end, the sun will go nova and all life on earth will be completely destroyed |
| 18:48 | jnettlet | Z0l, I am sorry. ddc is on bus 1 not 2. everything is bus - 1 for the linux devices. |
| 18:49 | Z0l | jnettlet: i don't have bus1, only 2: # ls /dev/i2c* |
| 18:49 | jnettlet | well that explains why it can't find the ddc port :-) |
| 18:49 | jnettlet | Z0l, this is a CBi right? |
| 18:50 | Z0l | CBi4pro |
| 18:50 | jnettlet | okay. |
| 18:52 | Z0l | jnettlet: also, sometimes the device gives "HDMI link disconnected" when I switch the input to the cubox-i, and "HDMI link connected" when switched to a different input |
| 18:54 | jnettlet | noted |
| 18:57 | Z0l | and the error doesn't happen with the 3.0.x kernel (the one in the debian jessie image) so most likely it's caused by something implemented for the 3.10 series |
| 19:15 | Z0l | jnettlet: if you need any more info, please do let me know |
| 19:33 | CovertOps | i lost the link someone posted earlier to an arduino raspberry pi shield |
| 19:36 | Z0l | CovertOps: http://server.vijge.net/static/cubox/irclog/ |
| 19:37 | CovertOps | ah cool thanks! |
| 21:47 | zhando | running ubuntu trusty on cubox-i2ex with cbxbiker61's 3.10.51 kernel.. Liking it.. Wish it had support for mdadm though.. Want to use it for a raid 1 off the esata.. btrfs seems a tad immature with this kernel.. |
| 21:54 | jnettlet | zhando, btrfs is immature in most kernels still. My guess is 3.20 it will be ready for primetime |
| 21:55 | jnettlet | or 4.0 |
| 22:08 | zhando | jnettlet: does any of your recent kernel work support linux raid (mdadm) on the cubox? Compiling a kernel is one thing. Installing is quite another on these arm boxes - especially for a dilletante like myself. |
| 22:09 | zhando | I read that btrfs is improved on 3.16.. |