IRC log of #cubox of Wed 27 Aug 2014. All times are in CEST < Back to index

00:56 balrog well I got arch running
07:20 R0nd I managed to boot 3.10.53 kernel yesterday, but it hangs at the point where it should normally start X
07:20 R0nd or at least I think it hangs, there's no video output and I can't reach it on the network
08:36 kgp_ rabeeh: Do you know that Raspberry/Broadcom is laying off many high skilled employees?
11:07 CampingCarl I think there is a deeper evil behind events. Its fingerprints are in the strange "coincidences" that seem to link great tragedies together in unsettling ways.
11:08 CampingCarl Let's look at two of the "faces of evil" in the 20th century: Adolf Hitler and Charles Manson.
11:09 poukill Hi everyone, I've just ordered a Cubox-i2. Now I' m wondering what is the simplest way to get a MPD server running ? Install Debian ? Voyage MuBox ?
11:10 CampingCarl Both are forever linked together in the human psyche. Manson, who promoted a deeply racist and fascist ideology, carved a swastika into his forehead. In a neighboring canyon in the thirties, a short distance from where the Manson Family was staying before moving to the Spahn Ranch, a paramilitary Nazi cult was operating in a fortress where they planned to take cover during an apocalyptic race war. They would emerge afterward as th
11:12 CampingCarl This mirrors Manson's ideology. And at the Spahn Ranch, the Manson Family was living next to the property of the Krupp family. The Krupps, of course, were an extremely wealthy German family that were among the captains of industry in the Fatherland at the time of Hitler's rise to power. The Krupps formed an integral part of the Nazi war machine.
11:14 CampingCarl The rise of fascism in Germany was engineered by the Thule Society and its inner circle, the Germanen Order, both of which created the Nazi Party and selected Adolf Hitler to lead it. The concepts of a spiritual struggle between races and Aryan 'superiority' had been popularized by Madame Helena Petrovina Blavatsky, whose father was a Czarist military officer with German aristocratic blood.
11:14 deniska -_-
11:16 CampingCarl Blavatsky, an occultist leader, founded the Theosophical Society with two of her top disciples, Lt. Col. Henry Steel Olcott and William Quan Judge. Judge was a lawyer and Olcott was a ranking Army officer who had served as Special Commissioner of the War Department and later transferred to the Navy Department. He participated in the official 'investigation' of the Lincoln assassination.
11:16 deniska /kick CampingCarl
11:16 CampingCarl The Manson Family was influenced largely by the Church of Scientology and the Process Church of Final Judgment.
11:18 CampingCarl The Church of Scientology was set up by L. Ron Hubbard, who worked for the Office of Naval Intelligence during WWII and whose father was a ranking Navy officer. Hubbard was a disciple of Aleister Crowley. The Process Church was a spinoff of Scientology.
11:18 CampingCarl Manson was recruited into Scientology while spending the majority of his young life in prison.
11:19 CampingCarl His recruiter had a great influence on him. Sometimes he was clutching the bars of his cell, begging to be allowed to speak to him. Other times, he was begging to be placed in solitary confinement in order to avoid him. After being released on the spring equinox (a major occult holiday) of 1967, he went to the Scientology center in San Francisco. The Process Church was close by.
11:21 CampingCarl The Process Church of the Final Judgment was formed in London by Robert DeGrimston, who had served as a cavalry officer and whose grandfather was a prominent diplomat, and his wife Mary Ann DeGrimston, a former prostitute who was involved in an influential prostitution ring that supplied a number of powerful British officials. This prostitution ring was exposed when it turned out that one of its girls was both sleeping with the Mi
11:22 CampingCarl one of the KGB assets stationed in the Soviet embassy.
11:22 CampingCarl Mary Ann had also dated and was at one point engaged to Sugar Ray Robinson, a famous prize fighter and a Freemason.
11:23 CampingCarl The Process asserted that the Devil and God were one in the same entity. Their magazines were filled with gory, satanic, and pro-Nazi imagery.
11:23 CampingCarl Their symbol was four Ps composed in a swastika shape.
11:23 paulk-collins come-on, gore and satanic are cool
11:24 rabeeh guys; is this CuBox-i, HummingBoard or MicroSOM related discussion?
11:24 CampingCarl Their magazine, "Fear," had published an article written by Manson. Manson promoted precisely the same ideology regarding God and the Devil. He is also known to have had contact with the Process on more than one occasion, and to have maintained his group in San Francisco only a few doors from it.
11:25 CampingCarl He even referred to the Manson Family as "the Final Church," directly adopting their terminology.
11:25 CampingCarl Members of the Manson Family were drawn from various local occult groups.
11:26 CampingCarl Susan Atkins and Bobby Beusoleil were members of the Church of Satan. Atkins was part of a group of girls who would strip in events hosted by LaVey. They toured with him as "the Topless Witches Review." As part of this performance, Atkins would play the role of a Vampire.
11:26 rabeeh CampingCarl: 2 strikes.
11:27 rabeeh ok; i typically wait for 3 strikes :)
11:27 dv_ I'm actually surprised somebody like him didn't show up sooner
11:27 rabeeh i think it's a bot
11:27 dv_ maybe
11:28 dv_ perhaps all the bored scripted kiddies now target twitter etc. instead of irc
11:28 rabeeh dv_: 2014 freenode was horrible
11:28 rabeeh last year there wasn't this amount of netsplits
11:29 rabeeh that's why rmk prefers to hide in OFTC :)
11:30 rabeeh well... lets see what happens; i have a hunch that this is not over :)
11:38 ziga_ a bot running on a cubox i bet.
11:40 ziga_ anyone here has a precompiled 3.1x. kernel ready for debian jessie image/hummingboard-i2ex, or even any image for hb-i2ex that runs a 3.1x kernel ?
11:41 rabeeh ziga_: what is kernel 3.1x? there are lots of numbers in there :)
11:41 rabeeh for instance 3.10 fsl kernel, 3.14 jnettlet kernel, 3.16 mainline :)
11:41 ziga_ rabeeh: would like to try getting the most network performance I can get with i2ex
11:41 rabeeh then either 3.14 or 3.16
11:42 rabeeh i build those typically from sources
11:42 ziga_ i've crosscompiled one already - though doesn't boot and I don't have the necessary stuff to get serial console on the hb
11:42 ziga_ pretty much unfortunate
11:42 rabeeh which machine do you have?
11:42 rabeeh hb-i2ex / hb-i2/hb-i1?
11:42 ziga_ i2ex
11:42 rabeeh you can hook hdmi to a monitor and get u-boot
11:43 rabeeh i.e. hdmi out
11:43 jnettlet rabeeh, actually 3.14 is best right now. Upstream still has the UDP rx bug.
11:55 ziga_ rabeeh: indeed, thanks - now i have to figure out why i can stop autoboot.
11:57 rabeeh ziga_: connect a usb keyboard to the lower port
11:58 ziga_ tried both
11:58 rabeeh u-boot might be picky about your keyboard; just use the lower usb port
12:04 kgp__ rabeeh: Have you seen my message concerning grey matter available on the market? :)
12:05 rabeeh yes
12:05 rabeeh kgp: seen that
12:43 ziga_ https://plus.google.com/103895730806848715870/posts/MF7cqieHhtq <- russel talks about 600Mbps receive, were the bus is limited to 480Mbps, does anyone have comments on this ?
12:53 rabeeh ziga_: send a big thank you message to rmk :)
12:54 jnettlet ziga_, depends on your upstream hardware. 600Mbps has been seen by more than a few people. My hardware tends to max out in the mid 500's
13:04 R0nd ziga_: have you managed to update your kernel? I've been trying to install 3.10 on my debian/cubox, but didn't succeed
13:05 bencoh talking about ethernet, any reason why a cubox-4i ethernet interface wouldnt mount at more than 10mbps/half ?
13:05 bencoh I have two cubox-4i, on the same switch
13:05 bencoh same cable
13:05 bencoh I switched ports and cables, one works fine, the other wont
13:06 bencoh it looks like it stopped working after a failed ethtool -s eth0 autoneg on
13:07 bencoh is there any special register I should be aware of ?
13:07 bencoh (FEC register)
14:23 ziga_ insane
14:23 ziga_ R0nd: i'm recompiling latest 3.14 atm from linux4ix's rep
14:26 rabeeh bencoh: which kernel?
14:26 bencoh fsl
14:26 bencoh (solidrun/fsl)
14:27 rabeeh https://github.com/linux4kix/linux-linaro-stable-mx6/commit/26d3cf45a60082ffa2dd2cec266238dec035c68f
14:27 rabeeh please look at it
14:27 bencoh hmm, thx
14:27 bencoh is there something missing in u-boot init as well ?
14:28 rabeeh in what means?
14:28 rabeeh no there isn't
14:29 rabeeh just tried gpio-irq-demo on HummingBoard with latest kernel fixes.
14:29 bencoh eth doesnt mount in u-boot either
14:29 rabeeh especially this one - https://github.com/linux4kix/linux-linaro-stable-mx6/commit/65e21017562a1c800bcfccb56a3d078e24d09b26
14:29 bencoh and funny thing is, I left the cubox unplugged for a day, when I tried today it worked for a few power cycles
14:29 bencoh then stopped working
14:30 rabeeh bencoh: is it related to tftping from u-boot?
14:30 bencoh I just tried dhcp from uboot ... but still, the phy interface doesnt come up
14:35 rabeeh bencoh: do you build your own u-boot too?
14:35 rabeeh i can try quickly patching u-boot with the same mdio and to check if it helps?
14:35 bencoh I do, and yeah I'd be glad to try that
14:36 bencoh (openembedded build)
14:36 rabeeh i can send you my own u-boot.img to try
14:37 bencoh SPL can load it from fat, or should I copy it to second sector ?
14:38 rabeeh whatever you have
14:38 rabeeh SPL should be able to load from fat; but i never use this method
14:39 rabeeh http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/72661517/tbr/u-boot.img
14:40 rabeeh obviously this is a temp file; please download since it will be wiped out :)
14:40 bencoh thx - downloaded :)
14:42 rabeeh joelbaby: welcome
14:42 rabeeh i guess you are the same joelbaby on the forums?
14:42 joelbaby hey there
14:42 joelbaby yeah, i was up all last night trying to figure out how to fix the overscan, but i failed :)
14:42 rabeeh android?
14:42 joelbaby but i know a lot about EDID and mxc_hdmi.c now
14:43 joelbaby no, in the kernel.
14:43 rabeeh yeah
14:43 joelbaby Rudi made a great fix for 16-235 RGB
14:43 rabeeh yeah; saw that
14:43 joelbaby but now he and tom(?) have to figure out how to put it into the kernel
14:44 rabeeh jnettlet already integrated a fix from mk01
14:44 rabeeh jnettlet - ping?
14:45 rabeeh basically the default would be limited colorspace but through the command line you can adjust it to use 0-255
14:45 rabeeh that's for LK 3.14.x
14:45 jnettlet rabeeh, yess?
14:46 rabeeh hi jnettlet
14:46 jnettlet afternoon
14:46 rabeeh we are discussing having hdmi default to be limited in color (even if the TV doesn't say the right words through EDID)
14:46 joelbaby that's not a good idea.
14:47 bencoh rabeeh: U-Boot 2013.10-rc4-gefc4835 (Jan 26 2014 - 19:40:02)
14:47 bencoh ?
14:47 rabeeh bencoh: looks wrong.
14:47 bencoh did you just build it ?
14:47 jnettlet I think we use default now.
14:47 joelbaby i think ... make something like /sys/class/graphics/fb0/colorspace
14:47 jnettlet and you can then change it to limited or full
14:47 joelbaby and then have a setting in uEnv.txt
14:47 joelbaby say with default full range.
14:47 rabeeh the default should be limited
14:48 jnettlet joelbaby, it already has that
14:48 rabeeh joelbaby: jnettlet is talking about LK 3.14
14:48 joelbaby yes, i am talking about 3.14
14:49 joelbaby there is that 'limited'/full thing
14:49 joelbaby but it doesn't do anything when you run xbmc on a HDMI v1.2 monitor
14:49 joelbaby I mean something to turn on Rudi's patch
14:49 joelbaby which recalculates the RGB from the YUV using CSC
14:50 jnettlet it should be through the same mechanism, and then if HDMIv1.2 is detected through the EDID the csc can be changed
14:50 bencoh rabeeh: definitely looks like you sent me an old build ... dd-ing mine back on microsd gives me a different timestamp :)
14:50 rabeeh bencoh: no; my window manager crashed few days ago and looks dropbox is not working
14:50 rabeeh i'm waiting for the machine to fully die so i can reboot it :)
14:50 joelbaby @jnettlet ... does HDMIv1.2 send a version signal through edid?
14:51 rabeeh i have too many things open
14:51 jnettlet joelbaby, wait this should be HDMIv1.3 and newer right?
14:52 joelbaby @jnettlet there are two types of TV with problems: HDMI v1.2 (limited colorspace and that's all they do) ... and Sony Bravia (HDMI v1.3+)
14:52 joelbaby for the peple with Bravia, it is a newer TV but the current uEnv.txt setting does nothing for them.
14:53 joelbaby for them, they need Rudi's CSC changes.
14:55 jnettlet joelbaby, we should be able to get the EDID_VERSION out of the cea extensions
14:56 joelbaby @jnettlet This doesn't work on my HDMI 1.2 TV, and doesn't work on a Sony Bravia: echo limited > /sys/bus/platform/devices/20e0000.hdmi_video/rgb_quant_range
14:56 rabeeh where is this change joelbaby? have a link for a patch?
14:57 joelbaby Rudi's patch is a bit brute force: http://www.solid-run.com/community/download/file.php?id=134
14:57 joelbaby it needs to be nicer
14:57 joelbaby but it works really well for us with older TVs
14:58 joelbaby and all the people with Sony Bravia seem to like it on the thread.
14:59 joelbaby @jnettlet how about 'rgb_quant_range=forcelimited' , and use that as a trigger to do the csc changes in the patch?
15:00 jnettlet joelbaby, can you dump edid's and put them somewhere for me to download and look at?
15:01 joelbaby hmmm... in geexbox environment?
15:01 joelbaby xrandr doesn't work in there.
15:01 jnettlet joelbaby, you can get it from /sys
15:01 jnettlet just do a find -name edid
15:02 rabeeh cat /sys/devices/soc0/soc.1/20e0000.hdmi_video/edid
15:02 joelbaby ok, well i won't copy and paste the output... where do you want it sent?
15:02 rabeeh joelbaby: http://pastebin.com/
15:04 joelbaby http://pastebin.com/zqyiPvyH
15:06 ziga_ ok i've got two penguins drawn in the framebuffer, at least the kernel loads and get executed - though i don't get any printk's
15:07 rabeeh ziga: default command line is silent
15:08 ziga damn
15:08 rabeeh https://github.com/linux4kix/linux-linaro-stable-mx6/commit/578cfc734b056ec06943b36e0c697aaa412a9e08
15:15 joelbaby @rabeeh> I put my pastebin output into: http://www.edidreader.com/. It shows that "Underscan" is not supported. Maybe this is the reason why I get left and right areas of my console screen cut off ?
15:19 ziga ccLinux debian-imx6 3.14.14+ #2 SMP Wed Aug 27 13:06:03 CEST 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux
15:20 ziga thanks a lot
15:20 ziga (:
15:20 ziga rabeeh: it was even more obvious than the default cmdline, 'quiet' was explicitely set in the cmdline I had in uEnv.txt
15:22 joelbaby @jnettlet in mxc_hdmi.c there is a line "if (hdmi->hdmi_data.colorimetry == eITU709)
15:23 joelbaby @jnettlet ITU709 is another way to output colors. Is there a way to change the 'colorimetry' setting from the command line?
15:25 jnettlet I don't believe so
15:41 ziga jnettlet, rabeeh: do you know if these famous /up-to-600Mbps/ rmk patches are merged into linux4kix repository ?
15:45 jnettlet ziga, most of them are yes
15:52 ziga ok, i'm doing an average of 500Mbps rx+tx
15:53 ziga with no special tweaking, gso is fixed so enabled by default
15:55 joelbaby @rabeeh i am thinking of experimenting with a custom Modeline in the kernel. The idea is to squeeze the picture width to remove missing areas.
16:08 joelbaby 1. e4
16:18 Tempest_nano Would someone recommend a kernel for xbmc - hdmi audio? I am about to install two i4's for family members and have had a hell of a time getting the sound right. (spdif is solid)
16:21 Artox Tempest_nano: 3.0 or 3.14
16:21 Artox both worked fine for me on hdmi
16:21 Artox (but not using xbmc, just aplay)
16:21 joelbaby this one is the best one: https://github.com/linux4kix/linux-linaro-stable-mx6/tree/linux-linaro-lsk-v3.14-mx6
16:21 Artox and the solidrun people want you to run 3.14
16:21 joelbaby has some HD audio patches in it.
16:25 joelbaby @Tempest_nano: http://www.solid-run.com/community/topic1525.html
16:25 Tempest_nano I have been trying to run 3.14 in arch, but hdmi audio is always glitchy in xbmc. Perhaps I should try a different distro.
16:26 joelbaby are you just setting up xbmc boxes for your family?
16:27 Tempest_nano XBMC + Transmission + openvpn (selectively routing only transmission) + sickrage + couchpotato... *gasp*
16:27 Tempest_nano I have everything but hdmi audio. It is driving me up the wall.
16:28 joelbaby well HDMI audio works fine for me, including HD Audio.
16:28 Tempest_nano Which distro do you use?
16:28 joelbaby why not try: Geexbox + 3.14 kernel ?
16:29 joelbaby also, if you're compiling 3.14 kernel, remember to download the branch.
16:29 joelbaby with -b option in git pull
16:29 Tempest_nano I was always under the impression Geexbox was more of an appliance.
16:30 joelbaby right, but at least you can start to isolate what's wrong.
16:31 joelbaby If you use geexbox+3.14 and your HDMI audio works, then you know that something else in your arch build is wrong.
16:31 Tempest_nano Thanks, I will do that. I swear obvious steps are sometimes invisible until you bounce them off someone else.
16:31 joelbaby how will you get kernel 3.14?
16:33 joelbaby I put some instructions on how to compile it here: http://www.solid-run.com/community/topic1525-20.html#p11510
16:33 Tempest_nano I figured I would just compile it. Should the files compiled from the recommended configs in arch work in geexbox, or is there some complication about compiling that I would miss?
16:33 joelbaby yeah hold on, i'll get you a new .config to compile with.
16:34 Tempest_nano Cheers!
16:35 joelbaby use this .config in your linux_linaro_stable_imx6 directory
16:35 joelbaby http://www.solid-run.com/community/download/file.php?id=135
16:36 Tempest_nano "The selected attachment does not exist anymore."
16:38 joelbaby https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mxd21n9i11nkh3y/AABixiwrXweespeTqGBvLuCsa?dl=0
16:38 joelbaby in there, is a compiled kernel and the modules
16:39 joelbaby and a .config
16:39 Tempest_nano Beautiful! I will try them this evening.
16:39 joelbaby but wait ...
16:39 Tempest_nano There's more?
16:39 joelbaby yes
16:39 joelbaby you must copy zImage.standard to zImage
16:39 joelbaby because otherwise it won't boot :)
16:40 joelbaby there are two zImages (one for RGB0-255 color and one for RGB16-235)
16:40 joelbaby and you have to uncompress the modules into /lib/modules folder
16:41 joelbaby and it will make something like /lib/modules/3.14.abcdefjkadsfljasdfsd
16:41 Tempest_nano I see. Been meaning to test the limitedrange stuff on my system. I admit, I was awful confused the first time I built a kernel and couldn't get any module to work.
16:42 joelbaby i put some basic instructions on how to install the compiled kernel here: http://www.solid-run.com/community/topic1545.html
16:43 joelbaby geexbox is here: http://download.geexbox.org/snapshots/geexbox-xbmc-imx6-cuboxi/latest/binaries.cuboxi/
16:43 joelbaby step 1. install geexbox
16:43 joelbaby step 2. try HDMI audio ... it may work with the current geexbox version.
16:43 joelbaby step 3. install new kernel.
16:48 Tempest_nano Can geexbox be treated as a full distro with package management? I have most of my modifications/scripts condensed to a couple of directories already in anticipation of easily reinstalling.
16:49 Tempest_nano I have been meaning to get an appliance setup anyways for the secondary TV's in family members houses. Thanks for the input joel!
16:51 joelbaby geexbox is like openelec
16:51 joelbaby and it runs busybox, so you have to use opkg install put things on it.
16:51 joelbaby so its not like normal linux like arch linux
16:52 joelbaby but the point is ..it works.
17:01 Tempest_nano That is what I need a the moment. I will return tomorrow with the results.
17:49 joelbaby @rabeeh can Ambilight led strips be connected directly to hummingboard, or do they need to be connected via Arduino?
17:50 rabeeh i.MX6 can drive few mA; it won't be able to drive an LED strip directly
17:53 joelbaby ok.
18:15 Siavash hi all
18:15 Siavash has anyone managed to get bluetooth working on ArchLinux?
20:15 shadeslayer does anyone have working wifi/graphics drivers for Ubuntu 14.04?
20:22 shadeslayer also, could someone explain what the difference between getting a cubox carrier pro + the i4 SOM and cubox i4 would be?
20:57 FoXMaN shadeslayer: what is the problem with graphics ?
21:00 rabeeh shadeslayer: cubox carrier pro + the i4 SOM and cubox i4 are the same
21:12 Artox except for optical audio?
21:15 jnettlet on has digital optical, the other coax optical
21:15 jnettlet s/on/one
21:41 rabeeh cubox carrier pro + the i4 SOM is actually CuBox-i4p
21:41 rabeeh this is not HummingBoard
21:47 FoXMaN hmm i have cubox 4i and hummingboard i2ex. I've built linux-linaro-lsk-v3.14-mx6
21:47 FoXMaN and there's no video on cubox
21:47 FoXMaN stop
21:47 FoXMaN there's no video on hummingboard while cubox works ok
21:49 FoXMaN unfortunatelly i don't have uart cable to check what's going on on hummingboard after initial boot message
22:01 rabeeh FoXMaN: do u get hdmi out on HB in u-boot?
22:06 FoXMaN rabeeh: i see Hit Any key to stop autoboot and then few lines (too fast to read) and nothing more after it
22:07 FoXMaN i'll try to use netconsole to see what kernel is doing
22:22 balrog rabeeh: how do I set up arch linux to use eSATA for rootfs? just set it in the uboot txt file?
22:22 rabeeh balrog: first you must have a micro SD at least for u-boot
22:23 balrog jnettlet: which has coax digital?
22:23 balrog rabeeh: right now I have everything on microsd
22:23 balrog (for testing purposes)
22:23 rabeeh easiest is probably copying over the rootfs and editing uEnv.txt to 'root=/dev/sdaX' or something like that instead of 'root=/dev/mmcblk0pX'
22:24 rabeeh but that highly depends on the root filesystem you are using
22:24 balrog yeah that's what I was thinking
22:24 rabeeh balrog: HummingBoard has digital coax
22:24 balrog right now the hard disk has a debian install
22:24 balrog rabeeh: ahh, fair enough
22:24 balrog ext4 formatted
22:24 balrog I'd just shove that aside and copy over the arch rootfs
22:24 balrog right?
22:28 shadeslayer FoXMaN: I was curious if someone got it to work
22:28 shadeslayer rabeeh: thanks!
22:29 rabeeh balrog: yes
22:29 balrog anything to be wary of?
22:30 balrog oh yeah in general I'm really satisfied with the hardware
22:30 rabeeh if you are using a rootfs over eSata; just make sure you don't use the eSata link :)
22:30 balrog it's a HUGE upgrade over my sheevaplug
22:30 balrog eSATA link?
22:30 rabeeh eSata cable
22:30 rabeeh you are using CuBox-i - right?
22:30 balrog yes, i4pro
22:39 mhoney did someone say there is a 14.04 release for the i4 pro?
22:41 shadeslayer I was curious if there was one that had working graphics drivers
22:44 mhoney im still using the jessie image from 9 months ago
23:34 balrog rabeeh: what do you mean by that?
23:35 balrog I was planning to use an eSATA cable to an eSATA enclosure
23:55 FoXMaN rabeeh: yeah i was missing dtb file for this particular board which is named imx6q-hummingboard.dtb
23:56 FoXMaN i was mislead by this q