| 01:40 | Exaga | evening all :> |
| 09:04 | Exaga | hi folks... i have a hummingboard i2ex running stock debian and i'm trying to update the kernel to 3.14.14 using the how-to guide on SolidRun wiki... but the process fails every time for me. |
| 09:05 | Exaga | has anybody got any suggestions or advice as to where i could be going wrong? |
| 09:05 | Exaga | or a set of instructions I can follow which does work? |
| 09:42 | Dr_hash | ????? ??????? ! :-) |
| 09:42 | Exaga | hey Dr_hash :> |
| 09:42 | Dr_hash | Hi |
| 09:43 | Exaga | any ideas on how to upgrade a kernel on the hummingboard i2ex successfully? |
| 09:44 | Dr_hash | ??? ??????, ?? ? ???? |
| 09:45 | Exaga | i guess not :D |
| 09:46 | Exaga | i'm following the guide on solidrun wiki but there's something i'm not doing right |
| 09:47 | Dr_hash | ??? ?????? ???? ??????????????? ?????? ??! |
| 09:48 | Exaga | geen probleem |
| 09:48 | Nilesh_ | I'm trying to enable lvds on wandboard-solo .....I've altered the device tree with reference to sabre board..but unable to get the output ..can anyone help.. |
| 11:04 | earthy | Exaga: simply building the kernel will not set up your u-boot to actually boot that particular kernel |
| 11:04 | earthy | you'll have to put the zImage on your boot partition |
| 11:05 | Exaga | earthy: i have done all that |
| 11:05 | Exaga | http://www.solid-run.com/wiki/Building_the_kernel_and_u-boot_for_the_CuBox-i_and_the_HummingBoard |
| 11:05 | Exaga | following that guide |
| 11:09 | earthy | that guide is incomplete where it comes to http://www.solid-run.com/wiki/Building_the_kernel_and_u-boot_for_the_CuBox-i_and_the_HummingBoard#Flashing_U-boot_and_the_kernel_-_full_example |
| 11:09 | earthy | (for one, it referes to the uImage) |
| 11:27 | Exaga | earthy: the guide may be complete but i am not understanding correctly or not doing something i need to do |
| 11:27 | Exaga | because it's not working for me |
| 11:28 | Exaga | this is why i am asking for assistance :> |
| 11:28 | Exaga | telling me the guide is complete doesn't actually assist me much lol |
| 11:28 | Exaga | because i have tried it multiple times |
| 11:29 | Exaga | other people seem to have installed debian and updated to the 3.14.14 kernel without any problems |
| 11:29 | Exaga | using that same guide |
| 11:33 | Exaga | and the image created is not a uImage it's a zImage |
| 11:33 | Exaga | and the uEnv.txt calls for a uImage |
| 11:33 | Exaga | so as you can imagine, being a complete novice to u-boot i am somewhat confused |
| 11:34 | Exaga | what i need is somebody to say "do this, type that, run that... this is how it's done" |
| 11:34 | Exaga | or point me in the right direction |
| 12:09 | earthy | *in*complete. |
| 12:09 | Exaga | that too |
| 12:09 | earthy | niet helemaal af. :) |
| 12:09 | Exaga | either way i'm stuck |
| 12:09 | earthy | the uEnv.txt should be edited to refer to the actual image file that you put in /boot |
| 12:10 | earthy | in this case it should read bootfile=/boot/zImage rather than bootfile=/boot/uImage |
| 12:10 | Exaga | ok cool. thanks for that |
| 12:11 | Exaga | i tried that and was told the uImage was not the correct format |
| 12:11 | earthy | zImage |
| 12:12 | Exaga | i also tried using this command to convert it: mkimage -A arm -O linux -T kernel -C none -a 0x80008000 -e 0x80008000 -n "Linux kernel" -d zImage uImage |
| 12:12 | earth | 12:12 * earthy nods |
| 12:12 | Exaga | still didn't work for me |
| 12:12 | earthy | should no longer be needed with current u-boot from solid-run, IIRC |
| 12:13 | Exaga | yes i have read that somewhere |
| 12:13 | Artox | with zImages you dont need uImage |
| 12:13 | Exaga | well i'll try it again |
| 12:14 | earthy | Exaga: read how it's done in https://github.com/igorpecovnik/Cubox-i-Debian/blob/master/build.sh |
| 12:14 | Exaga | thanks earthy |
| 12:15 | earthy | especially lines 130 to 139 |
| 12:15 | Exaga | reading now |
| 12:16 | earthy | that script builds working headless debian images |
| 17:56 | wrexem | I'm baaaaaack. |
| 17:56 | wrexem | And how is everyone today |
| 18:01 | wrexem | Quiet. Excellent. |
| 18:02 | dv_ | :) |
| 18:02 | wrexem | I will fill your ears (or eyeballs, probably) with joy. |
| 18:06 | Exaga | :> |
| 19:21 | earthy | :) |
| 20:13 | wrexem | Whats new today Kernel hacking megaminds? (jnettlett) |
| 20:13 | wrexem | Who else is fiddling with the kernel? What is everyone working on? |
| 20:14 | malte | working on wine |
| 20:14 | malte | whitewine |
| 20:14 | malte | :) |
| 20:14 | Exaga | trying to get debian jessie booting with a 3.14.14 kernel |
| 20:15 | Exaga | on a hummingboard i2eX |
| 20:55 | wrexem | Does it not work Exaga? |
| 20:58 | Exaga | it boots to a black screen |
| 20:58 | wrexem | Does SSH and soforth come up, network? or is it kernel panic or frozen invisibly? |
| 20:59 | wrexem | Do you have serial debugging console? |
| 20:59 | Exaga | right after the initial "BIOS" info... black screen at the point when you expect to see a screen of scrolling text |
| 20:59 | Exaga | i don't have the console |
| 21:01 | wrexem | I bought a console cable for it; I haven't tried it yet because I haven't managed to freeze it lately. |
| 21:01 | Exaga | at first i thought the fault was with u-boot |
| 21:02 | Exaga | but now i think it is the kernel |
| 21:02 | Exag | 21:02 * Exaga is currently building a new one |
| 21:02 | wrexem | Can you paste your uEnv? |
| 21:03 | Exaga | bootfile=uImage |
| 21:03 | Exaga | mmcargs2=setenv bootargs root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 ro rootwait video=mxcfb0:dev=hdmi consoleblank=0 ${bootargs_ext} |
| 21:03 | Exaga | mmcargs=if test ${cpu} = 6SOLO; then setenv bootargs_ext gpumem=64M fbmem=10M; else setenv bootargs_ext; fi; run mmcargs2 |
| 21:04 | earthy | bootfile=uIMage should be removed methinks |
| 21:04 | wrexem | Is there a uImage? |
| 21:04 | wrexem | I would think you want a zImage |
| 21:04 | earth | 21:04 * earthy nods |
| 21:04 | Exaga | there will be a zImage |
| 21:06 | malte | Exaga : do u use a hdmi dvi adapter |
| 21:07 | Exaga | no malte it's a straight HMDI cable into the monitor |
| 21:07 | Exaga | malte: i cannot ssh to the device after the screen goes blank |
| 21:07 | Exaga | so i assume it crashes at the point it's trying to load the kernel |
| 21:07 | wrexem | Why do you have the uImage thing there? |
| 21:07 | wrexem | Just curious. |
| 21:08 | Exaga | because i pasted you a backup of my uEnv.txt file |
| 21:08 | malte | do u use igors img ? |
| 21:08 | Exaga | it will be edited before i copy it to /boot |
| 21:08 | Exaga | malte: i am using the stock debian jessie image |
| 21:08 | wrexem | malte: he's using jessie, trying to use new kernel with that |
| 21:09 | Exaga | maybe trying igor's img is worth a shot |
| 21:09 | wrexem | That does interest me though: Why jessie instead of Igor's hotsauce? |
| 21:09 | Exaga | but isn;t that already 3.14.14 ? |
| 21:09 | malte | igor got a good headless working debian img with newest kernel |
| 21:10 | Exaga | wrexem: because i'm new to the hummingboard/u-boot |
| 21:11 | Exaga | in all honesty i do not know what the best img to use is |
| 21:11 | wrexem | What is your goal for use? |
| 21:11 | Exaga | my goal is to get this working and then port slackware arm on to it |
| 21:11 | wrexem | Beyond "all the things" :) |
| 21:11 | wrexem | okiedoke. Check out Igor's debian build. |
| 21:11 | wrexem | let me see if I can find you the link |
| 21:11 | Exaga | it's cool. i have the URL bookmarked |
| 21:12 | Exaga | thanks :> |
| 21:12 | wrexem | http://www.igorpecovnik.com/2014/08/19/cubox-i-hummingboard-debian-sd-image/ |
| 21:12 | wrexem | It's extremely solid in my experience. |
| 21:12 | wrexem | A bit of weirdness with his mountpoints; I still have no idea what I'm looking at (no fstab file? lol) but it works well. And optimized to use very little IO on the sdcard. |
| 21:13 | Exaga | wrexem: my aim is to educate myself setting up the microSD card and update the kernel |
| 21:13 | Exaga | from there the sky is the limit |
| 21:14 | wrexem | Truth. |
| 21:14 | wrexem | Basically, some device tree files need to be in your boot folder. |
| 21:14 | wrexem | And a zImage file. |
| 21:14 | wrexem | That should get the kernel up, then you need a rootfs |
| 21:15 | Exaga | SPL and u-boot.img ? |
| 21:15 | wrexem | I use dd on Igor's image to put it on the sd crad |
| 21:15 | wrexem | card* |
| 21:16 | wrexem | Somebody else would have to talk about SPL/u-boot |
| 21:16 | Exaga | well as i say, i'm very nwe to the hummingboard so thanks for the advice |
| 21:16 | Exaga | very much appreciated :> |
| 21:17 | Exaga | i've been a raspberry pi whore for too long :/ |
| 21:17 | wrexem | I think much of your experience there will translate. |
| 21:17 | wrexem | But this is a much more competent board. |
| 21:17 | wrexem | I have a wifi chip on my pci-e |
| 21:18 | wrexem | and an SSD as my primary storage :) |
| 21:18 | wrexem | (You said you have the i2ex right?) |
| 21:18 | Exaga | yes, working with the stock debian jessie image i can see it's very fast |
| 21:18 | Exaga | i2eX yes |
| 21:19 | wrexem | Yeah, malte is working on putting a pci-eX16 port on his i2ex :P |
| 21:19 | wrexem | Best thing on this board is that pci-e, totally awesome. |
| 21:19 | wrexem | sata 3Gb too |
| 21:19 | Exaga | i bought it over the i2 because of the features |
| 21:20 | Exaga | although fitting it in a raspi enclosure is not advisable |
| 21:20 | wrexem | You can actually upgrade the chip on it to a quad core - did you know? |
| 21:20 | Exaga | yes wrexem the quad module is $110 |
| 21:20 | wrexem | idk if there is much benefit in day to day use. |
| 21:20 | wrexem | But someday I may do just that. For the joy of it. |
| 21:20 | Exaga | but it's not being shipped as a unit because they are still working out heat dissipation issues, apparently |
| 21:21 | wrexem | Mine boots to login in 9 seconds. |
| 21:21 | Exaga | which os are you running? |
| 21:21 | wrexem | That igor image, on SSD |
| 21:21 | wrexem | Set a static IP in /etc/network/interfaces and call it a day |
| 21:21 | Exaga | i will get a SSD for it eventually |
| 21:21 | wrexem | I gota 128gb crucial. |
| 21:22 | wrexem | R/W at 110MB/s writing zeros. |
| 21:23 | Exaga | do you have an enclosure for it wrexem ? |
| 21:23 | wrexem | It fits in one of my rpi cases, after some modification. |
| 21:24 | wrexem | I haven't tried running it in there, I will after I get the fan mounted up properly |
| 21:24 | Exaga | i was thinking of cutting out a swuare from the base of one of mine |
| 21:24 | wrexem | I bought a 30mm fan |
| 21:24 | wrexem | I have the modmypi case |
| 21:24 | wrexem | early early rpi stuff |
| 21:24 | Exaga | i have one too |
| 21:24 | Exaga | i have a few raspi's |
| 21:28 | wrexem | I had to hack out a spot where the LVDS connector is, and remove some little plastic spikes so the ssd could fit. |
| 21:28 | wrexem | I have access to a laser cutter; I think I might try designing my own case - specific for the HB |
| 21:29 | wrexem | With lots of vents near the processor and such |
| 21:29 | Exaga | i think somebody with a 3D printer and some time free might help too :> |
| 21:29 | wrexem | I have access to that also |
| 21:29 | Exaga | a hummingboard specific case would be cool |
| 21:29 | wrexem | It's actually awesome cutting out of really thin plywood |
| 21:30 | wrexem | You just cut each layer the same outside dimension, then stack them. |
| 21:30 | wrexem | carve out the middles |
| 21:30 | wrexem | lots of open sourced examples. |
| 21:30 | Exaga | too much effort for me mate :> |
| 21:30 | wrexem | Just tweak a bit for the pi |
| 21:30 | wrexem | Well, yes. But you never know when you might hit the million dollar idea :) |
| 21:30 | Exaga | what looks completely wrong is the hummingboard in a raspi case |
| 21:31 | Exaga | when it has the pi logo on it |
| 21:31 | wrexem | It looks pretty awesome if you ask me ;) oh, yeah, no logos |
| 21:31 | wrexem | hehe |
| 21:31 | wrexem | my pi case came with a sticker |
| 21:31 | wrexem | I was like... nope |
| 21:31 | Exaga | :> |
| 21:31 | wrexem | stuck it on my pc instead |
| 21:32 | Exaga | i'm sure the hummingboard i2 fits perfectly in a raspi case |
| 21:32 | wrexem | Maybe yeah |
| 21:32 | wrexem | The i2ex does also; I just worry about the heat |
| 21:32 | Exaga | it's just the mSATA port stopping it from fitting properly on the i2eX |
| 21:32 | wrexem | the chip will reset the motherboard if it gets too hot though. |
| 21:32 | wrexem | The case I had fit, even still. |
| 21:33 | wrexem | It wasn't close on the bottom like that |
| 21:33 | Exaga | well i have a modmypi case and it wasn't going to fit in it without modification |
| 21:33 | wrexem | Mine was the original one from mmp |
| 21:34 | wrexem | Different than these new ones by quite a bit. |
| 21:34 | Exaga | i see |
| 21:34 | wrexem | I would take a picture but it's in the car |
| 21:34 | Exaga | no worries :> |
| 21:44 | wrexem | Interesting, I didn't realize the chromecast had a vivante chip |