IRC log of #cubox of Wed 21 Jan 2015. All times are in CET < Back to index

06:15 cbxbiker61 anyone know how to identify the board revision for the hummingboard, it seems like it was posted in the forum, but I cant seem to find it
06:30 cbxbiker61 that was easy...the revision is printed on the carrier under the microsom
07:05 m_anish Hi. I imagined that the USB ports on i4pro are powered
07:05 m_anish but they don't seem to work. Can't spin up a usb hard disk
07:05 m_anish (or could it be a s/w issue)?
07:05 R0nd they're powered but there might be not enough current
07:06 cbxbiker61 do you have a 2A power supply?
07:06 m_anish yes
07:06 m_anish (atleast I think)
07:07 m_anish could it be a s/w issue at all? (before I get a new supply)
07:07 R0nd could be, why not
07:07 cbxbiker61 put a usb flash on it, see if that works
07:07 cbxbiker61 us usb-storage loaded?
07:07 cbxbiker61 us/is
07:08 R0nd I'm running a cubox-i2 with a notebook 2.5" hdd and I have to use external power for it
07:09 cbxbiker61 yes most of the external disks are going to need more than the usb2 spec
07:10 m_anish hmm, interesting .. http://fpaste.org/172296/42182064/
07:10 R0nd m_anish: you could look up your hdd specs and see how much current it needs
07:11 m_anish R0nd, ^^ was a usb flash drive. that doesn't work too!
07:11 R0nd oh
07:11 m_anish oh wait
07:11 m_anish spoke too soon. one moment
07:12 m_anish it gets detected and powerd
07:12 m_anish which is farther than the hdd went
07:13 m_anish i tried 2-3 different disks .. one USB-2 and two USB-3
07:13 m_anish all don't work
07:13 m_anish so probably is a power supply issue?
07:13 R0nd could be that cubox can't put up enough current on a single usb port
07:14 m_anish R0nd, are both ports supposed to be powered?
07:14 R0nd I think so
07:14 cbxbiker61 .5A is the spec
07:14 m_anish cbxbiker61, for a 'powered' port?
07:14 cbxbiker61 yes
07:14 m_anish cbxbiker61, that's probably not enough.
07:14 m_anish time to get the powered hub out :)
07:15 Humpelstilzchen m_anish: same problem, y-cable works
07:15 m_anish but i had imagined that the powered spec would be greater than 0.5A. But thanks.
07:16 m_anish Humpelstilzchen, thx. I'll probably use the hub, need more than two ports.
07:17 m_anish has anybody tried mSATA <-> SATA converter to mount internal hdds? does that work?
07:17 m_anish (without extra power, that is)
07:18 Humpelstilzchen the sata port on cubox does not provide power
07:18 m_anish ah ok
07:18 m_anish Humpelstilzchen, so how would somebody mount an mSATA SSD?
07:19 R0nd m_anish: isn't is esata?
07:20 Humpelstilzchen m_anish: use a disk case
07:21 cbxbiker61 mSATA??? that would be on the mSATA on the bottom of the board, and has power
07:21 R0nd I use a esata -> sata+usb cable
07:21 m_anish cbxbiker61, yea, that's the one
07:21 R0nd uh, the other way around
07:21 R0nd esata+usb -> sata
07:22 R0nd it might look like a disaster but works perfectly fine
07:23 cbxbiker61 i forgot, m_anish this is cubox, the mSATA is on the hummingboard
07:23 m_anish cbxbiker61, sorry. i was talking about the hb only .. mixed my product names. sorry!
07:23 m_anish cbxbiker61, whatever is the highest end hb
07:24 cbxbiker61 yes, just put an mSATA card in the slot
07:24 m_anish ok
07:24 m_anish cbxbiker61, there are msata -> sata converters. I was wondering those would supply enough power to spin up hdds.
07:24 m_anish (through the port, or whether it'd need external power)
07:24 cbxbiker61 almost for sure not
07:25 cbxbiker61 you'd have to look at the mSATA spec, i'm sure rabeeh is suplying that amount
07:25 m_anish ok
07:27 m_anish i'll make sure my duct taped rig supplies power then.
13:22 tvideovi is malte on line?
14:24 tvideovi hi jnettlet - are you the person working with Catwich on video acceleration?
14:26 jnettlet tvideovi, haha...you confused me for a second there because Catwich is normally Artox on IRC.
14:26 tvideovi yes, I am not always sure myself
14:26 jnettlet yes, he is packaging up the drivers. I was going to message you last time but you were offline before I got a chance.
14:26 jnettlet I also saw your pm on the forums. Sorry I don't check that much.
14:27 tvideovi I understand as this is a labour of time and love
14:27 tvideovi can you advise the status of this element as I understand new drivers coming
14:29 curlymo You can also use XBian, it has GPU accelerated xserver in it's staging repository. Quake has already been played on it :)
14:30 curlymo and just disable XBMC start-on-boot if you just want X
14:30 tvideovi my problem is that I need VA on a browser for a
14:31 tvideovi BoundaryDevices claim they have it and I am trying to use their image on cubox to test as well as homebuilt yocto
14:32 curlymo http://pastebin.com/sgKQzq3E
14:32 curlymo here is the glxinfo for the xbian compiled xserver
14:37 curlymo so just try XBian, upgrade to the latest version by apt and install
14:37 curlymo xserver-xorg-core xserver-common xserver-xorg-video-imx-viv xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-input-synaptics libdrm2
14:38 tvideovi thx - have you tried to load a browser and see if VA works?
14:38 curlymo nope
14:39 tvideovi ok thx for the advice, I will try today
14:39 curlymo do make sure you have upgraded first before installing those xserver packages. Then the XBian xserver packages will be forces over the default debian ones.
14:39 curlymo please let me know how it went
14:40 curlymo and when a nice forum post about it when it does ;)
14:42 tvideovi will do - no experience with XBain, how do I install - tried apt-get and no joy
14:42 R0nd jnettlet: hi, I've looked some more into that kodi issue, and it's definitely the imx codec
14:43 curlymo @tvideovi
14:43 curlymo http://sourceforge.net/projects/xbian/files/
14:44 tvideovi thx - downloading now
14:44 curlymo i advice you to download the latest imx6 testing image
14:44 curlymo saves you some updating time afterwards
14:46 tvideovi have used Igor, BD and SR images but not sure which one you mean or where it is
14:47 curlymo http://sourceforge.net/projects/xbian/files/testing/xbian-image-imx6-20150113.img.gz/download
14:47 tvideovi thx again
14:48 R0nd jnettlet: I've tested a bunch of videos, here are log fragments if you wanna look at them http://pastebin.com/qviikRtA
14:49 kgp Question: what is the best image to use firefox, go on internet now using cubox-i?
14:51 curlymo as i said to tvideovi, if you want HW Video, test the latest XBian fully updated with the latest xserver packages i just listed.
14:51 tvideovi will do today and test with chromium browser I appreciate the lead, never tried this approach
14:52 curlymo xbiain just offers a minimal debian OS (but with a lot of fixes) for XBMC and allows users to customize it by installing packages.
14:52 R0nd curlymo: I'll try that out, thanks
14:53 curlymo we are eager to get it tested :)
14:53 R0nd what's the kernel version on that build btw?
14:53 curlymo I think by default 3.14.27+ but 3.14.28+ is available through apt
14:53 curlymo i'm running the latter
14:54 R0nd sounds good
14:54 tvideovi jnettlet, I am trying to use webRTC and it defaults to V8 encoding but I believe can be forced to H.264 - have you ever tried a V8 video
14:56 curlymo XBian is just an debian jessie OS but then done well
15:00 tvideovi great - burning sd now - I assume once started, I first update the xorg and other files as you advised
15:00 curlymo no, first upgrade everything and then install xorg. The order of commands matters.
15:01 R0nd what's the best way to backup a running cubox?
15:01 curlymo XBian has a built-in backup function that only backs-up used sectors.
15:02 tvideovi no sure this is what you mean but I do daily and often more img copies of sd card
15:03 R0nd should I just dd my sd card?
15:03 curlymo you probably make full images. So if you have a 4GB SD card, it will make a 4GB image. The difference with XBian is that if you run on a 4GB SD card, but you have 3GB of free space, your image will only be 1GB.
15:04 curlymo by image i mean backup
15:19 jnettle 15:19 * jnettlet is back and reading the backlog
15:21 tvideovi jnettlet - sent email, thx
15:22 jnettlet tvideovi, the VPU supports hardware decoding of vp8, but only supports h264, mp4, and mjpeg encoding.
15:24 tvideovi that is fine for my application as the decode is the choke point
15:25 jnettlet tvideovi, you will either need chromium built with mx6 optimizations, or firefox but with the gstreamer media backend enabled
15:26 jnettlet I have looked at WebRTC quite a bit and because none of the browsers agree 100% of what video codecs they want to support it is a real mess
15:27 curlymo @jnettlet, have you already tested mk01's xserver build?
15:27 jnettlet I think h264 has officially been allowed now, but google is dragging their feet supporting it because they want everything to be vp8/vp9
15:28 tvideovi so I assume I need to do this build which I don't mind doing and then sharing but have no experience in building chromium also not sure how to enable gstream media backend
15:28 tvideovi agree about google drag and can move to Iceweasel but found it did not work as well as chromium up to know - freezing
15:29 tvideovi now
15:40 jnettlet tvideovi, we have a wheezy image that has accelerated chromium already built.
15:40 jnettlet we are working on a jessie image.
15:40 tvideovi wow did not know that, where can I get it pls
15:42 curlymo jnettlet, mk01 already got that jessie image working, so maybe check into his work
15:42 jnettlet curlymo, yeah I am not interested in hacking and mainting the xserver. I had that working a year ago but it is unmaintainable.
15:43 jnettlet I will be rolling out the v5 drivers this week which will work with jessie 1.15
15:44 curlymo did you by chance already checked into the gpio mapping question i had?
15:45 tvideovi is there any problem with the wheezy version - could I experiment with it now to test my webRTC application
15:45 curlymo didn't XBian work?
15:46 jnettlet tvideovi, nothing wrong with it
15:47 jnettlet sorry one sec
15:49 tvideovi curlymo - just about to try as I had the BD img in test as we spoke - so many images so little skill...:)
15:54 tvideovi cirlymo - I plan on downloading the BD chromium 36 browser to test on XBain unless you advise against this
16:05 jnettlet tvideovi, we still don't have images being built, just tarballs is that okay?
16:10 tvideovi I will try anything - don't mind the work just lack some skill (some???)
16:12 tvideovi curlymo - what is root login for xbain
16:16 curlymo you need to login as xbian user and then do a "sudo su"
16:17 tvideovi i did an exit on xbain main window and now have a login screen "xbain login"
16:18 curlymo as i said
16:18 curlymo login as xbian
16:18 curlymo password raspberry
16:21 tvideovi thx - I tried xbain/raspberry on prompt "xbain login:" and it returned "Login incorrect" "xbain.private login:" which also failed with xbain/raspberry
16:22 curlymo first enter xbian as the username
16:22 curlymo when it prompts the password enter raspberry
16:52 tvideovi curlymo - when xbain starts it seems to have Master user, there is no login screen so I exit to get the terminal login which is what I want but it does not accept xbain/rasperry
16:53 tvideovi I will keep playing with it but right now cannot get to terminal to load browser and test - appreciate your help and will experiment today and let you know how I do with it
16:59 curlymo why connect with ssh
16:59 curlymo the default login is just a plain simple "xbian" with the password "raspberry"
18:04 Artox this gpu is a bithc!
18:05 Artox greetings Exaga, tvideovi
18:05 Artox I am jsut back to where I was before
18:05 Artox glxgears running at top-speed
18:05 Artox but chromium errors on eglCreateContext
18:06 Artox jnettlet: the step thats required on what I sent you is: install libgl1-mesa-dri, and symlink /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/dri -> /usr/lib/dri
18:07 jnettlet Artox, I will sort that out with the v5 drivers. I think we need to focus on that and not waste too much more time on the rest.
18:07 jnettlet I am feeling better and am slowly ramping back to full speed
18:08 Artox good
18:08 Artox I am working on a small update to teh package that isntalls dri stuff in the right place meanwhile
18:09 Artox and add a dependency on the mesa dri modules
18:09 Artox (swrast seems to be a hard dependency for glx)
18:19 jnettlet Artox, yeah it is the fallback
19:38 tvideovi Hi Artox, I was away testing the BD img
20:35 R0nd curlymo: about that xbian image
20:36 R0nd am I supposed to just dd it to sdcard? it doesn't mount anymore
20:37 curlymo or use the xbian installer
20:38 curlymo i'm currently testing the xserver myself
20:38 curlymo let me see how it works :)
20:38 curlymo first need to get it installed
20:39 curlymo @R0nd, was the goal xserver or something else?
20:39 R0nd what I really want is hw decoding in kodi
20:41 curlymo i believe that's already available for a longer period of time
20:42 R0nd it sometimes works in my debian install
20:42 R0nd but only for some files
20:43 curlymo you could check how XBian is doing
20:43 curlymo not sure on that one
20:44 R0nd yeah, I've got it running
20:44 R0nd remote works out of the box, nice
20:45 curlymo was that different on other distro's?
20:46 R0nd yes, I remember having to set that up on igor's debian
20:52 R0nd is there a way to enable ssh from gui?
20:52 curlymo already is by default
20:53 R0nd oh yeah, it just didn't accept network settings for some reason
21:01 tvideovi curlymo - I played with XBain and will do more but maybe confused with my message - I want to get into cli terminal for the updates and to download browser and could not sign in once I received the terminal login promt
21:02 curlymo i can't be anymore clear than that
21:02 curlymo loginname: xbian, password: raspberry
21:08 R0nd alright
21:08 R0nd this is great, kodi really works now
21:09 curlymo on xbian?
21:09 R0nd yep
21:09 curlymo did you install it manually?
21:09 R0nd no, everything's out of the box
21:09 curlymo ok
21:19 R0nd oh wow, it even has CEC working
21:21 R0nd it's like the ultimate cubox distro
21:23 earthy xbian can haz ghci?
21:44 tvideovi curlymo - thanks, I agree you are being clear so let me ask which login you are referring to as I do not get a login screen in xbain until I "exit" and that login does not accept "xbain/raspberry" sorry for any confusion as I really wouold like to get this working as a distro base
22:08 curlymo did you try ssh already?
22:08 curlymo @R0nd, if you mind posting that on the forum :)
22:18 R0nd yeah, ssh works, I was just connecting to the wrong ip
22:19 R0nd the gui network settings didn't work for me for some reason
22:19 R0nd couldn't set static ip
22:21 curlymo did you install all updates?
22:21 curlymo most issues you encounter are already fixed upstream
22:22 R0nd uh, not sure
22:22 R0nd thanks, I'll look into it tomorrow
23:20 Artox okay, the broadcom driver just jumped on top of me
23:20 Artox it did manage to function 48 hours though
23:50 tvideovi Artox are you here
23:52 Artox yes
23:52 Artox I am
23:52 Artox rvi
23:52 Artox tvideovi:
23:52 tvideovi do you know or can you send me the username and pw for mxchrome
23:53 Artox xD
23:53 Artox I think its
23:53 Artox imx:linux
23:53 Artox nope
23:53 Artox imx6:linux
23:53 Artox and, as mentioned, chromium actually doesnt use the gpu/vpu idk why
23:54 Artox I am currently updating the gpu-viv-bin package with a necessary change
23:54 tvideovi i have the system up to login screen but forgot to ask for the username/pw
23:56 tvideovi imx/linux gets me past login screen bu then black screen with active cursor