| 07:38 | marguski | Good Morning folks! |
| 07:39 | marguski | Do you know where can I find first generation cubox documentation? |
| 07:39 | marguski | It seems like company has deleted all information regarding first generation devices |
| 07:52 | jnettlet | marguski, it was removed due to a security problem with the old wiki software. It will be brought back online when time permits. |
| 07:52 | jnettlet | the easiest place to find access is the internet wayback machine. |
| 07:53 | marguski | Ok, but what was the old wiki address? |
| 07:58 | jnettlet | this is most likely what you are looking for. https://archive.org/details/wiki-solid_runcom_mw |
| 08:05 | marguski | jnettlet: thanks:) |
| 09:13 | jnettlet | topi`, will have something today. I am just trying to clean up some long standing u-boot issues since I am here. |
| 09:14 | jnettlet | somebody has contacted me about porting our code to upstream u-boot, so we will see when that happens. |
| 10:09 | curlymo | @jnettlet @rabeeh, fyi, wiringX has been included in the default Arch linux repository :D |
| 10:25 | topi` | jnettlet: upstreaming to u-boot sounds good :) |
| 10:25 | danilo7 | hi everyone, first of all thanks for the help to revive my bricked Cubox v2 (Marvell Armada) |
| 10:26 | danilo7 | i am kinda of a newbie, always used the cubox installer to install OS |
| 10:26 | danilo7 | i'd like to install ubuntu with GUI...but at the moment on the repository there's only debian headless |
| 10:27 | danilo7 | could anyone give me a guide or tutorial on how to put ubuntu on my cubox? |
| 10:28 | vpeter | danilo7: Maybe http://www.solid-run.com/community/topic1617.html |
| 10:29 | danilo7 | vpeter: can i use the procedures I find in the forum even if I own an old cubox v2 (Marvell Armada) ?? |
| 10:36 | vpeter | danilo7: This I don' know. I would say no. |
| 10:39 | jnettlet | curlymo, I saw that. Nice work! I almost have some dt-overlays patches ready for testing. They still aren't working 100% as I think they should. |
| 10:39 | jnettlet | I am also not quite sure how the userspace interface should work. |
| 10:40 | curlymo | it's also great that we had the first developer that turned to wiringX immediatly instead of trying to port wiringPi first. The goal of wiringX in a nutshell :) |
| 10:40 | jnettlet | yeah I was following that. great success |
| 10:41 | jnettlet | I also started some node.js bindings that I need to publish |
| 10:41 | curlymo | also for you guys, because hummingboard development has also leaped forward in wiringX |
| 10:41 | jnettlet | although they will probably need to change now that you guys have added support for more devices |
| 10:42 | jnettlet | it is very satisfying to see something that expands beyond the scope of the RPi be adopted. |
| 10:43 | Humpelstilzchen | lets hope that the PIs USB HW gets adoptet somewhere else ;) |
| 10:46 | danilo7 | what i'd like to know is how to create an image of the OS i want (Ubuntu) like this one http://download.solid-run.com/pub/solidrun/cubox/distros/debian/ to use it with installer |
| 10:46 | danilo7 | or a procedure to boot and install OS from USB |
| 10:46 | curlymo | Humpelstilzchen, can you elaborate? |
| 10:49 | Humpelstilzchen | curlymo: google for "raspberry pi elephant in our room", basicly the rpi usb interface was not made to be used as a full USB 2.0 host |
| 10:53 | Artox | maybe it'd be reasonable to add soem uboot default code that tries to boot from per default? |
| 10:53 | Artox | (ofc still requiring an sdcard) |
| 10:53 | Artox | from usb* |
| 10:56 | curlymo | that's what you meant |
| 11:01 | jnettlet | Well the Pi's usb ports aren't even powered, so their functionality is really limited. Those are the type of limitations you will find when you cut the price like that. |
| 11:01 | jnettlet | Then people end up buying powered usb hubs, and new hardware and eventually you are at 70% the cost of a HB and it is still slower |
| 11:02 | jnettlet | The RPi is basically a dumping ground for old Broadcom SOC's that weren't used anywhere else. |
| 11:03 | jnettlet | Artox, nope won't add USB support to the default u-boot. If a distro or people want it then they can script it themselves in a u-boot.scr |
| 11:03 | Artox | I see |
| 11:03 | jnettlet | There is really no reason to support a USB stick when you need to boot off an SDHC card anyways |
| 11:04 | Artox | I'd say there is |
| 11:04 | Artox | I like the idea of running an actual installer |
| 11:04 | Artox | or plugging in an usb stick to boot from that |
| 11:04 | Artox | if the "bios" choose usb if available |
| 11:04 | Artox | in our case, it ofc needs to be part of the sdcard's software |
| 11:04 | jnettlet | yes, but there is no gui to choose |
| 11:05 | jnettlet | so what if there is a usb stick inserted and the boot fails? |
| 11:05 | Artox | so its only useful if *all* images included that code |
| 11:05 | Artox | good question indeed |
| 11:05 | jnettlet | it is going to leave people that don't have a console hooked up filing bug reports |
| 11:05 | Artox | I'd say print angry message and die |
| 11:05 | Artox | and, I agree |
| 11:05 | jnettlet | that is fine for devs |
| 11:05 | jnettlet | but not for general use. Which is why devs can write their own uboot.scr |
| 11:05 | curlymo | Artox, it will always be SDCARD > U-boot > boot.src > device to boot |
| 11:05 | Artox | set a fialed flag in uboot env |
| 11:05 | Artox | xD |
| 11:05 | Artox | yep |
| 11:05 | jnettlet | curlymo, yep |
| 11:06 | curlymo | even if you have u-boot support it will just be |
| 11:06 | curlymo | SDCARD > U-boot > device to boot |
| 11:06 | curlymo | to what's the gain? |
| 11:06 | curlymo | to = so |
| 11:06 | Arto | 11:06 * Artox still images running actual distros installers |
| 11:06 | Artox | but then can also be achieved by taking an distro installer image on usb |
| 11:06 | jnettlet | moving the support into default u-boot is just another nightmare of a feature to support. I will leave it to the custom distros |
| 11:06 | Artox | and a tiny sdcard image with the little uboot code |
| 11:07 | Artox | maybe one day there will be arm-versions of those installers |
| 11:07 | Artox | only then do these ideas really make any sense |
| 11:07 | jnettlet | but if you need to image the sdcard, then why not just image the entire OS you want? |
| 11:08 | Artox | because installers let you choose things |
| 11:08 | Artox | package selection |
| 11:08 | Artox | firewall presets |
| 11:08 | Artox | users, password |
| 11:08 | Artox | or mirrors for network installation |
| 11:08 | jnettlet | that can all run on first boot, as it should |
| 11:08 | Artox | not really |
| 11:08 | jnettlet | That is what Fedora does |
| 11:08 | Artox | I dont like installing a bare OS |
| 11:09 | Artox | and then isntructing teh package manager to feth a lot from interweb |
| 11:09 | jnettlet | why not? |
| 11:09 | Artox | I much more like those full-feature 4,7GB dvd's that have all the software selections |
| 11:09 | jnettlet | but you can setup many installers to look for local storage of the repos |
| 11:09 | Artox | also, some distros have even applied optimizations in there to save pre and postscript time by packing preinstalled tarballs |
| 11:09 | Artox | yep |
| 11:10 | jnettlet | and regardless, those dvd's are constantly out of date so you basically need to upgrade everything once there is an internet connection anyways |
| 11:10 | Artox | true |
| 11:10 | Artox | but I found, with e.g. opensuse, after 3 months its still only ~300MB of downloads |
| 11:10 | Artox | considering an 1.4GB download for full kde |
| 11:11 | Artox | and, not to forget deltarpms |
| 11:11 | Artox | those are awesome |
| 11:11 | jnettlet | they are better. |
| 11:11 | Artox | but they really need good compression-speeds |
| 11:11 | Artox | of the device cpu |
| 21:25 | Exaga | __ KEEP THE DOG ALIVE!!! |
| 21:25 | Exaga | ()'`; / |
| 21:25 | Exaga | /\|` W00f W00f W00f |
| 22:27 | freee | hi everyone. is it a right plase for asking help with deviced did not turn on? |
| 22:31 | freee | i have already read http://wiki.solid-run.com/Common_problems and my story looks like one. except i really sure that my card is working |
| 22:36 | Exaga | hey freee whassup? |
| 22:37 | freee | looks like i cant turn on cubox. last time it suddenly turns off. |
| 22:37 | freee | it was really hot when i touch it |
| 22:37 | Exaga | ah then sprry but i cannot assist you... i'm hummingboard only :> |
| 22:38 | Exaga | i have zero experience with cubox my friend :> |
| 22:38 | freee | ok, tnx for try :) |