| 19:15 | vpeter | jnettlet: Any news regarding future openelec? I upgraded most packages the remaining ones are libcec and kodi which I'm not sure what to use. For a test I took mk01's xbmc branch (because seems it has better imx6 support) and libcec 3.0.1. I got kodi working, cec not tested yet. Any pointers to make this project alive are welcome. |
| 19:17 | Exaga | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ayOeCl0yUA - highly recommended viewing!!! |
| 19:18 | Exaga | in fact, if you do not watch it i'm sending the boys round. ;) |
| 19:18 | Artox | youre bossy today, Exaga |
| 19:18 | Exaga | Artox: du hast ya 'ne macke! :D |
| 19:21 | vpeter | Watched :) |
| 19:22 | vpeter | My friend just got his first hummingboard :) |
| 19:22 | Exaga | yay for vpeter's friend! |
| 19:23 | Exaga | tell him to grab Ignition |
| 19:23 | Exaga | i have 2 hummingboards vpeter... the i1 and i2eX |
| 19:23 | Exaga | and soon to be getting a Clearfog |
| 19:26 | Exaga | vpeter: do you have a hummingboard/cubox? |
| 19:27 | vpeter | Maybe he will buy bunch of them in the future. This one is just first to be evaluated. I advised solidruns products and hope he will stay my friend in the future :) |
| 19:27 | vpeter | Yes, have cubox for openelec. |
| 19:27 | vpeter | Just puting new image on it. |
| 19:28 | Exaga | don't you think Kosay looks a bit like Vin Diesel? |
| 19:29 | Exaga | open question :D |
| 19:32 | vpeter | Vin Diesel - I don't think so. |
| 19:32 | Exaga | ok :> |
| 19:33 | jnettlet | Hmmm...I don't know Vin Diesel so can't comment |
| 19:33 | jnettlet | He is definitely taller |
| 19:33 | Exaga | lol jnettlet |
| 19:33 | Exaga | you have a point |
| 19:33 | jnettlet | vpeter, as for OpenElec, I am still trying to sort out the logistics. |
| 19:34 | jnettlet | It seems as though OE only wants to support iMX6 if we do all the maintenance. Since Kodi won't accept our patches upstream that is really a maintenance nightmare. |
| 19:34 | Exaga | incidentally, i'm sadly considering installing debian or ubuntu on my i2eX |
| 19:35 | vpeter | I talked with chewit today and if no one will take over the project it can happen that the project will be closed officialy. |
| 19:35 | vpeter | Only community forks will stay than. |
| 19:36 | vpeter | What about if some media projects will join forces? Like openelec + xbian for example? |
| 19:36 | vpeter | At the end we all have same goal which is running kodi. |
| 19:36 | jnettlet | vpeter, yes or geexbox |
| 19:36 | vpeter | But the way is different. |
| 19:36 | vpeter | Only few components are the same. |
| 19:37 | Exaga | vpeter: only the quality of the friendship you have with your friend who buoght the hummingboard might waver... the quality of solidrun will endure :D |
| 19:37 | jnettlet | so here is what I am thinking |
| 19:37 | vpeter | Yes, geexbox is more close because they are using sr's kernel 3.14. |
| 19:37 | vpeter | Exaga: I hope quality of friendship will be better also :D |
| 19:37 | vpeter | For solidrun I don't doubt :) |
| 19:38 | Exaga | vpeter: hopefully as a result of your recommendation to buy from solidrun :D |
| 19:38 | jnettlet | I think we should take our existing yocto layer that we are maintaining and add a Kodi layer to that. |
| 19:38 | jnettlet | then we just need to package the openelec plugin really |
| 19:42 | jnettlet | vpeter, here are my concerns with dumping more time into OpenElec. They are going to continue to push forward with newer versions of Kodi. If Kodi is not accepting changes we need to support iMX6 as best as we can, then we are constantly rebasing patches and fixing bugs. |
| 19:43 | heap_ | hi, whats this http://pastie.org/10684187 |
| 19:43 | vpeter | jnettlet: There is option to use different kodi version for imx6. This is always possible. |
| 19:45 | vpeter | This would be even better because everything will be under (some) control. |
| 19:45 | jnettlet | vpeter, yes but are there any benefits to using openelec at this point? |
| 19:48 | bencoh | why are they (kodi) not accepting patches? |
| 19:48 | jnettlet | heap_, looks like another fec bug |
| 19:49 | jnettlet | bencoh, because they don't like the change and the proper solution is to rewrite the entire rendering engine |
| 19:49 | bencoh | ah. |
| 19:49 | jnettlet | so basically they are refusing a simple patch because they are on crack |
| 19:49 | bencoh | how does it behave on other arm platforms? |
| 19:49 | bencoh | (is it an imx6-specific patch?) |
| 19:50 | jnettlet | it doesn't interfere with other platforms |
| 19:52 | vpeter | jnettlet: Because people knows openelec? And they would like to use it. If you decided to drop it then you don't need to support kodi in some other way because you already have 2 options (xbian and geexbox). Obviously this 2 are doing much work itself but for openelec there is no one - and I dont count :( |
| 19:52 | jnettlet | vpeter, you do count of course. Don't sell yourself short. |
| 19:53 | jnettlet | OpenElec has extended themselves too much and can't keep up supporting the platforms they took on. |
| 19:53 | vpeter | The problem is that there is no one that would know the platform. |
| 19:57 | vpeter | Anyway, it will be 20:00 soon so my computer time is near the end. It is one of my new year's resolution to not sit behind it late in the night if not required. |
| 19:58 | jnettlet | vpeter, sounds like a good plan |
| 20:02 | heap_ | jnettlet: by fec bug you mean? |
| 20:02 | jnettlet | heap_, looks like a race or memory leak in the ethernet driver. |
| 20:03 | heap_ | uhm |
| 20:03 | jnettlet | this was on our kernel? |
| 20:03 | heap_ | the one from mk01 |
| 20:03 | heap_ | 4.1.13 |
| 20:03 | jnettlet | there are problems with the upstream fec driver |
| 20:11 | heap_ | hmhm |
| 20:33 | vpeter | Think I'm going to lose my friend - seems there are no instructions how to blow fuses to boot from emmc. |
| 20:37 | Artox | I havent found any either, yet |
| 20:37 | vpeter | Closest thing http://sr.r00t.website/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1557 |
| 20:37 | vpeter | but for sd card. |
| 20:40 | jnettlet | vpeter, yes there is. |
| 20:40 | jnettlet | http://wiki.solid-run.com/doku.php?id=products:imx6:microsom:imx6-fuse |
| 20:41 | vpeter | "to boot from the Micro-SD cart" |
| 20:41 | vpeter | also spelling error :) |
| 20:42 | vpeter | also in u-boot source there are values only for SD card again. |
| 20:43 | vpeter | Wondering why this can't be done before shipping. It would be easier. |
| 20:44 | jnettlet | vpeter, not really. |
| 20:44 | jnettlet | really if it were up to me I would never recommend booting from eMMC directly |
| 20:44 | jnettlet | just using it as a rootfs |
| 20:45 | vpeter | Not stable? |
| 20:45 | jnettlet | nope, just less flexible |
| 20:47 | sysgif | If I jump into the talk |
| 20:47 | sysgif | jnettlet: Why it is not so flexible? :) |
| 20:48 | jnettlet | sysgif, because if you break booting on and sdhc card you pop it out and put a new kernel on it form another machine. |
| 20:48 | jnettlet | with eMMC you need to work in a limited u-boot environment or use USB recovery |
| 20:49 | vpeter | But this should newer happen in production. |
| 20:49 | vpeter | It is one time process. |
| 20:50 | jnettlet | vpeter, but SolidRun doesn't sell products that boot from eMMC...we sell products to resellers that can boot from eMMC |
| 20:51 | jnettlet | all our end user products use sdhc |
| 20:51 | vpeter | I though the point of using emmc is because they are more reliably than sd card. |
| 20:52 | vpeter | Anyway, good night. Now for real. |
| 20:52 | jnettlet | slightly, generally faster |
| 20:52 | jnettlet | night |
| 20:53 | sysgif | hmn, so now I'm wondering how to fuse it, with SD, or eMMC :) |
| 20:54 | sysgif | generally, I need to run one linux distro, and put our app to it. what would you choose in this case jnettlet? |
| 20:54 | jnettlet | really I recommend getting a 4GB sdhc card, not UHS that has the bootloader and /boot partition. kernel dtbs, uEnv.txt if you want...then have it boot to a rootfs on eMMC |
| 20:55 | jnettlet | then don't have your rootfs mount the sdhc card, or only as readonly. |
| 20:56 | sysgif | ok, I have some SD cards, this should not be a problem |
| 20:57 | sysgif | you suggest any special' |
| 20:57 | jnettlet | for just u-boot and /boot not really. any class 10 card is going to give you maximum boot performance |
| 20:59 | sysgif | ok, then I will have to fuse it for SD |
| 21:01 | sysgif | in wikipedia under eFuse Settings there is MAC address mentioned. This means ethernet MAC address? |
| 21:01 | jnettlet | yes |
| 21:01 | jnettlet | you can set it to whatever you want |
| 21:01 | sysgif | ok |
| 21:03 | sysgif | thank you |
| 21:04 | jnettlet | let me know if you have any more questions |
| 21:07 | sysgif | I have many more questions hehe :) |
| 21:07 | sysgif | SolidRun-MicroSOM-Fusing\SolidRun-dual-quad-fuses\Profiles\MX6DL Linux Update\OS Firmware has inside u-boot-mx6dq-fusing |
| 21:08 | sysgif | u-boot-mx6dq-fusing.bin |
| 21:08 | sysgif | this is for SD card fusing? |
| 21:09 | sysgif | Or if I ask differently: If I run MfgTool2.exe inside: SolidRun-MicroSOM-Fusing\SolidRun-dual-quad-fuses, it will set all fuses properly, or not? |
| 22:07 | topi` | jnettlet: did you put testing the Mikrobus uarts onto your backlog? |