| 11:09 | vpeter | Yay, ClearFog is ready to enter my house :) |
| 17:38 | wrexem | Any guesses whether something like this would work on the HB? http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Ethernet-Standard-Low-Profile-Supported/dp/B00V6ACHOA |
| 17:39 | wrexem | I'm thinking of replacing my buffalo NAS with my hummingboard |
| 17:40 | wrexem | Because the guts of the buffalo device are slow :( |
| 17:40 | wrexem | specifically the SoC |
| 18:13 | wrexem | My most ideal situation would be just removing the existing motherboard from the old NAS and clipping all the peripherals to the HB :D |
| 18:13 | wrexem | I doubt that will happen though, there's some kind of daughter board which I don't believe is a standard fitting |
| 18:13 | jnettlet | wrexem, what kind of drives? |
| 18:13 | wrexem | They are SATA drives |
| 18:13 | jnettlet | How many? |
| 18:14 | wrexem | It's two; and while I realize that thing I linked is only one sata port I was thinking about usb 3.0-> sata |
| 18:14 | wrexem | And I realize as well that I can get pci-e devices with sata and nic and etc |
| 18:15 | wrexem | I'm guessing it would all just work... |
| 18:15 | wrexem | I actually have all the stuff to go from the HB to a pci-e x16 |
| 18:15 | wrexem | which I expect would cover any needs I had |
| 18:16 | wrexem | Just kinda experimenting, lol |
| 18:18 | jnettlet | With all that great you could get a clearfog with some real nas power |
| 18:18 | jnettlet | That gear |
| 18:20 | wrexem | Would my i2ex uSOM fit in there? |
| 18:23 | jnettlet | It is a Marvell usom very very fast io but a much bigger board |
| 18:25 | wrexem | I have a pretty decent cpu sitting in my basement - I might yank the disks from the NAS and feed them to that thing. It's an i5 that toasted its power supply - but I have a bunch of extra ones from work. |
| 18:25 | wrexem | I don't have the money for the ClearFog, it looks awesome though |
| 18:26 | wrexem | The fact that it has an SFP port is amazing |
| 18:27 | wrexem | Someday I'll set up a home network using fiber... it's so cheap these days. |
| 18:29 | wrexem | I have some of these kicking around: http://www.flyteccomputers.com/details.cfm?wid=3423&wb=S-3553LC20D |
| 18:29 | wrexem | They would be really good for pairing a couple of clearfog devices |
| 18:29 | wrexem | Wouldn't even need a switch I don't think |
| 18:30 | wrexem | single fiber instead of pair... |
| 18:33 | jnettlet | I wonder if this would work on the HB. http://www.bplus.com.tw/Adapter/PM1061R.html |
| 18:34 | jnettlet | PCIe 2 is a bit sketchy on the imx6...NXP released an errata that you needed an external clock to support it |
| 18:34 | jnettlet | A bit late I may say |
| 18:36 | wrexem | $42 on amazon lol |
| 18:37 | wrexem | Since I have an x16 converter already, I can use an x16 SATA + NIC card - I think someone here ( malte_ ? ) was trying to capture video on the HB via a rig similar to mine. |
| 18:56 | wrexem | IgorPec, do you know if 802.3ad adapter bonding works in any of your kernel builds? |
| 18:57 | mitchty | would the hb2 be ok for using a sata ssd via a mpcie->sata card |
| 18:57 | mitchty | or should i stick to using nfs for high(er) i/o |
| 18:58 | wrexe | 18:58 * wrexem goes way out on a limb... |
| 18:58 | wrexem | I think the mpcie is faster than the 470mb/s on the NIC |
| 18:58 | wrexem | jnettlet is probably more qualified to answer that though. |
| 18:59 | mitchty | sure but if its not reliable i'd rather not invest the $$ on things |
| 19:02 | mitchty | i've already experienced the fun of those port multipliers acting... uniquely on x86 |
| 19:03 | jnettlet | mitchty, if you can solder there are pads for a sata connector on the hb2. On the top of the board by the m.2 connector |
| 19:05 | jnettlet | The PCIe and Sata on the mx6 to out at about gigabit speeds... I have seen up to 128MB/s on my good msata ssd |
| 19:06 | wrexem | (chiming in: I have a crucial ssd attached to my HB on the mSata connector and I get 105+ sustained write speeds) |
| 19:07 | wrexem | http://puu.sh/mS2u2/58f5b4505a.png |
| 19:09 | wrexem | I didn't realize there was a Sata pad on the device - that's very interesting to me. |
| 19:13 | wrexem | haha, looks like I donated too long ago to make it on Igor's donor wall |
| 19:16 | wrexem | jnettlet, is there a forum post I can follow which shows where the sata pins are at? Will it impede my using the mSata? |
| 19:27 | jnettlet | wrexem, the pads are on the HB2 boards not the original HB |
| 19:27 | jnettlet | The hummingbird only has mSata |
| 19:28 | wrexem | ah |
| 19:28 | wrexem | I didn't know there was an HB2 |
| 19:28 | wrexem | I might buy one of these to put on the HB: http://www.techpowerup.com/199305/axiomtek-debuts-the-shb230-picmg-1-3-half-size-single-board-computer.html |
| 19:29 | wrexem | Is there a link for the HB2 |
| 19:32 | mitchty | i got the gate https://www.solid-run.com/freescale-imx6-family/hummingboard/ |
| 19:32 | mitchty | jnettlet: ah cool, i can solder didn't think that would be possible |
| 19:32 | jnettlet | Gate and Edge are hb2 boards |
| 19:33 | jnettlet | You will need to get power from the pin header |
| 19:34 | wrexem | Can I slap my existing uSOM in an edge? |
| 19:35 | jnettlet | wrexem, only if it has the three connectors. With the hb2 boards we brought out as many pins and connectors as possible |
| 19:36 | wrexem | I think it's just two - were there revisions of uSOMs or something? |
| 19:36 | jnettlet | The 2 header microsom can be forced to work but some connectors will not be supported |
| 19:36 | wrexem | ah, interesting |
| 19:36 | jnettlet | Yes kind of. |
| 19:38 | jnettlet | Our initial consumer products all shipped with dual headers, then when we expanded the lineup we switched to three header soms. |
| 19:43 | jnettlet | wrexem the sata header should work. Only the rest USB ports will work, and only random pins on the header. |
| 19:43 | jnettlet | But for what you want to do it may be enough. |
| 19:50 | mitchty | wrexem: i'd test without dd if you could, /dev/zero might be ignored as an optimization, like how zfs will just log a block is all zeros instead of write it |
| 19:53 | jnettlet | That 110MB for sequential write sounds about right to me. Under load it probably drops down to about 80-86 |
| 20:17 | wrexem | mitchty, the problem with writing from somewhere other than dev/zero is that I don't have a fast source media. |
| 20:18 | wrexem | "from ssd to ssd" is going to be under half, probably more like 30% |
| 20:18 | wrexem | "fetch a block to memory over here, write it over there" |
| 20:18 | mitchty | nah, just dd a meg of random bytes then just write that multiple times, won't be a great test but it'll show write speed |
| 20:19 | wrexem | 704643072 bytes (705 MB) copied, 12.5904 s, 56.0 MB/s |
| 20:19 | wrexem | that's a dd of an mkv file |
| 20:19 | wrexem | should be random enough to suit |
| 21:17 | mk01 | setting compress=off should be sufficient to use zeroes content with full allocations (assuming dedup is off as well) |
| 21:30 | wrexem | mk01, how does one do that ? |
| 21:32 | mk01 | wrexem: zfs set compress=off [filesystem] |
| 21:32 | wrexem | oh; ok - I'm not writing to zfs, just ext4 |
| 21:32 | wrexem | Not sure how brave I would be with zfs on something with only a little RAM |
| 21:33 | wrexem | Though I'm sure I could get a T or so out of 1GB |
| 21:33 | mk01 | wrexem: the 32bit vmem barrier is issue, yes |