| 05:14 | _unreal_ | DHowett, I have no idea what you mean but COOL |
| 11:21 | topi` | has anyone else problems with solidrun's web store? |
| 11:21 | topi` | I tried to Add a product (8040 board) to my shopping cart, but it did not. Cart is stil empty |
| 11:21 | topi` | this is on Firefox |
| 11:23 | topi` | oh, might be because I did not touch the Product Options... let me try again |
| 11:24 | topi` | YES |
| 11:27 | topi` | ok, Solid-Run now has my money, now please let me have the hardware in my hands... :) |
| 11:33 | vpeter | Who can check one order? It should be shipped long time back but still not. |
| 11:36 | jnettlet | vpeter, email sales and they can check it |
| 11:36 | vpeter | The answer is "we will do next day" :) |
| 11:43 | jnettlet | sorry about that. We switched to a new fulfillment service. Might have gotten mixed up in the shuffle |
| 11:51 | topi` | there's some info about booting from eMMC on the wiki doc products/imx6/software/development/u-boot.txt but it fails to mention anything about the boot order? |
| 11:51 | topi` | is the eMMC used for booting as long as there is no SD card in the sd slot? |
| 11:52 | jnettlet | topi`, for clearfog? |
| 11:52 | topi` | no, HB edge |
| 11:52 | jnettlet | iMX6 there is no boot order it boots from the device that is burnt on the SOM |
| 11:52 | topi` | evidently I need a slightly newer u-boot to make booting from emmc work |
| 11:53 | topi` | we bought the HB Edges "as-is", so the default and only boot device is SD card? |
| 11:53 | jnettlet | yes |
| 11:54 | topi` | does eMMC differ from SDcard from the SoM point of view? |
| 11:54 | jnettlet | the next microsom revision will allow switching between eMMC and SDHC depending on a jumper |
| 11:54 | topi` | they're both basically mmcblkx devices |
| 11:54 | jnettlet | no, just their device enumeration |
| 11:54 | topi` | right |
| 11:55 | topi` | hmm, and what if somebody ordered eMMC-fused edges? how can the eMMC be updated then if booting from SD is not allowed? |
| 11:56 | jnettlet | the iMX6 can be serial booted via the USB-OTG port |
| 11:56 | topi` | I was supposed to prepare a SD card that could be used for flashing the edge's eMMC but obviously this won't work? |
| 11:56 | topi` | OK :) so we have to use USB flashing then - like with android devices |
| 11:56 | topi` | but it's not fastboot compatible, right? |
| 11:56 | jnettlet | no |
| 11:57 | jnettlet | you need to build a special usb-a to usb-a cable, there are instructions no our wiki |
| 11:57 | jnettlet | I am working on a chrome extension that will make flashing easier, but it isn't ready for customer use yet. |
| 11:57 | topi` | right, the Edge doesn't have a true OTG connector |
| 11:58 | jnettlet | no, because in general it used as in host mode |
| 11:58 | topi` | what about this cable? https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Beige-USB-2-0-Cable/dp/B0002MKBI2 |
| 11:59 | jnettlet | We don't recommend you use those cables because you are bridging VCC to VCC of host to target devices...this could possibly damage the hardware. |
| 12:00 | jnettlet | that is why we recommend the resistor put inline of the bridge VCC |
| 12:00 | topi` | right |
| 12:00 | topi` | I could possibly make a cut to the cable and dig out the Vcc wire and cut it |
| 12:01 | jnettlet | sure, or save the $'s and take two old cables and sacrifice them. |
| 12:01 | topi` | oh, Vcc still needs connection? |
| 12:01 | topi` | yeah, there's plenty of old miniUSB type cables littering boxes :) |
| 12:02 | jnettlet | good question...I think it is required for the OTG spec but I can test easy enough |
| 12:03 | topi` | OK, I believe I have some 10 ohm transistors. |
| 12:03 | topi` | found the page about the cable splicing. |
| 12:04 | topi` | if I can't find 10 ohm, should I go for a bigger or smaller one? |
| 12:04 | topi` | say, 32 ohm |
| 12:06 | jnettlet | 32 ohm should be fine |
| 12:21 | jnettlet | topi`, Bus 004 Device 002: ID 15a2:0054 Freescale Semiconductor, Inc. i.MX6Q SystemOnChip in RecoveryMode |
| 12:21 | jnettlet | yeah not connecting VCC works fine |
| 12:23 | rabeeh | ? |
| 12:23 | rabeeh | power cycle the board; you will see that you will be needing VCC |
| 12:24 | rabeeh | the VBUS is needed to feed the i.MX6 USB phy |
| 12:24 | rabeeh | and the reason VBUS is not driven is because the system has no firmware; so the usb current limiter is disable |
| 12:25 | rabeeh | i.e. 5V from the power supply doesn't drive the VBUS |
| 12:25 | jnettlet | mine comes up 50/50 |
| 12:28 | jnettlet | odd |
| 12:29 | jnettlet | oh but it is not stable at all |
| 13:24 | topi` | another question: why are there Boot select jumpers on the underbelly of the Edge? |
| 13:25 | topi` | the corner right above eMMC chip |
| 13:25 | topi` | I mean - if the Boot order is determined by Fuses like you said |
| 14:17 | topi` | is it possible to order only the Metal case for the HB2? We have plenty of Gates in the warehouse and some probably need to live in some sort of Housing before going to the customer... |
| 14:18 | topi` | Ah! Found the HB enclosure... it was on the page 2 |
| 14:18 | topi` | somehow it seemed only the Clearfog enclosure was avaialble ;) |
| 20:58 | topi` | jnettlet: the doc about using MFGtool says "Connect the other side of the cable to the upper USB port of CuBox-i or HummingBoard" |
| 20:59 | topi` | however, the Gate has 2x2 usb ports, hence 2 "upper" USB ports. Which one? |
| 20:59 | topi` | some docs need updating... :) |
| 21:02 | topi` | you guys have just too many products |
| 21:47 | topi` | waaaaah, paypal express doesn't accept my Diners club card :/ |
| 21:48 | topi` | and the big bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided that us mere engineers shall not need any company credit cards to do our shopping with :/ how stupid... |
| 21:49 | topi` | this was *way* easier when I worked for Nokia. They basically auto-issued company credit cards for all senior engineers. |
| 22:44 | jnettlet | topi, the same size as the power input |