|  00:09  |  Artox  |   topi`:  | 
|  00:09  |  Artox  |   only chromium  | 
|  00:09  |  Artox  |   with patches by dv  | 
|  00:09  |  Artox  |   which he sadly stopped updating  | 
|  00:10  |  Artox  |   raspberyypi is using libopenmax  | 
|  00:10  |  Artox  |   we dont have that  | 
|  00:10  |  Artox  |   we have gstreamer  | 
|  00:10  |  Artox  |   but somehow it doesnt work with firefox  | 
|  00:10  |  Artox  |   or, lets say it didn  | 
|  00:11  |  Artox  |   I figure it might work out now  | 
|  00:11  |  Artox  |   but it possibly needs rebulilding firefox to use egl/gles instead of glx  | 
|  00:11  |  Artox  |   I am really not sure  | 
|  00:11  |  Artox  |   samsung is working on a gstreamer backend for chromium  | 
|  00:11  |  Artox  |   but it is far from ready  | 
|  00:12  |  Artox  |   so that will be a potential solution to this misery for chrome  | 
|  02:50  |  _unreal_  |   Artox, hi  | 
|  09:54  |  topi`  |   Artox: I've also seen somewhere that samsung has a team assigned to work on Servo, the next-gen project from mozilla  | 
|  09:54  |  topi`  |   and that's fundamentally all GL-driven  | 
|  09:58  |  Artox  |   topi`:  | 
|  09:58  |  Artox  |   for imx6, the danger is that its not egl/gles, but glx/gl  | 
|  09:59  |  Artox  |   which is in really bad shape  | 
|  09:59  |  topi`  |   OK  | 
|  09:59  |  Artox  |   the fundamental problem that I ran across all over the place, is the choice to prefer GLX  | 
|  09:59  |  Artox  |   everywhere  | 
|  09:59  |  Artox  |   in accelerated gtk gui libraries  | 
|  09:59  |  Artox  |   browsers  | 
|  09:59  |  topi`  |   well, gtk is firmly rooted there  | 
|  09:59  |  Artox  |   desktop environments  | 
|  09:59  |  topi`  |   but luckily gtk is not the only game in town  | 
|  10:00  |  topi`  |   I think someone built Servo with only GLES, disabling GL, and it still works so subsets of GL are just ok :)  | 
|  10:00  |  Artox  |   well gtk isnt the problem, libclutter is  | 
|  10:00  |  Artox  |   which many gnome applications like to use  | 
|  10:01  |  topi`  |   GL is ancient anyways, Vulkan is coming :)  | 
|  10:01  |  topi`  |   yes, I know libclutter  | 
|  10:01  |  topi`  |   unfortunately :)  | 
|  10:01  |  Artox  |   well I doubt Vulkan will come to imx6  | 
|  10:01  |  topi`  |   that's true  | 
|  10:01  |  topi`  |   but I just wanted to point out that OpenGL has come to the end of its road  | 
|  10:01  |  Artox  |   things might get better if the switch to wayland will ever be completed  | 
|  10:01  |  Artox  |   yep, seen it  | 
|  10:02  |  Artox  |   though I must admit, I thought gles was the future  | 
|  10:02  |  topi`  |   yeah. I wish Ubuntu would have pushed Wayland  | 
|  10:02  |  topi`  |   there is no future ;) just irrational decisions in big rooms.  | 
|  10:02  |  Artox  |   damn, I am in a big room  | 
|  10:03  |  topi`  |   also i.MX6 is getting old...  | 
|  10:03  |  topi`  |   I wonder if there'll going to be a replacement for it from NXP  | 
|  10:04  |  topi`  |   if they fix the broken things, and keep most of the subsystems intact, it'll be easier to upgrade to i.MX9  | 
|  10:05  |  topi`  |   when our team went from OMAP2 -> OMAP3, it wasn't all smooth sailing, but most of the stuff written for OMAP2 worked as-is, just changed the offsets  | 
|  10:05  |  topi`  |   of course, what we got was a huge boost in application perf  | 
|  10:43  |  Artox  |   omap3!  | 
|  10:44  |  bencoh  |   they have imx7, but.... err... :)  | 
|  10:44  |  bencoh  |   it's just supposed to be a "low-power" clone with a lot of changes  | 
|  16:57  |  topi`  |   bencoh: I hope they'll have a better open source process for the kernel in the future  | 
|  16:57  |  topi`  |   well i.MX6 is pretty well covered by mainline now, but it took quite a long time  | 
|  17:00  |  bencoh  |   for "basic" use maybe, then...  | 
|  17:09  |  topi`  |   soon the chinese will have better chips with better mainline status, just look at upcoming RK3399  | 
|  17:10  |  topi`  |   if they got the PCIe working properly, then that's one highly useful SoC to build entire platforms upon  | 
|  17:10  |  topi`  |   fairly comparable to e.g. Braswell, but with faster CPU cores (cortex-a72)  |