IRC log of #cubox of Tue 23 Aug 2016. All times are in CEST < Back to index

00:09 Artox topi`:
00:09 Artox only chromium
00:09 Artox with patches by dv
00:09 Artox which he sadly stopped updating
00:10 Artox raspberyypi is using libopenmax
00:10 Artox we dont have that
00:10 Artox we have gstreamer
00:10 Artox but somehow it doesnt work with firefox
00:10 Artox or, lets say it didn
00:11 Artox I figure it might work out now
00:11 Artox but it possibly needs rebulilding firefox to use egl/gles instead of glx
00:11 Artox I am really not sure
00:11 Artox samsung is working on a gstreamer backend for chromium
00:11 Artox but it is far from ready
00:12 Artox so that will be a potential solution to this misery for chrome
02:50 _unreal_ Artox, hi
09:54 topi` Artox: I've also seen somewhere that samsung has a team assigned to work on Servo, the next-gen project from mozilla
09:54 topi` and that's fundamentally all GL-driven
09:58 Artox topi`:
09:58 Artox for imx6, the danger is that its not egl/gles, but glx/gl
09:59 Artox which is in really bad shape
09:59 topi` OK
09:59 Artox the fundamental problem that I ran across all over the place, is the choice to prefer GLX
09:59 Artox everywhere
09:59 Artox in accelerated gtk gui libraries
09:59 Artox browsers
09:59 topi` well, gtk is firmly rooted there
09:59 Artox desktop environments
09:59 topi` but luckily gtk is not the only game in town
10:00 topi` I think someone built Servo with only GLES, disabling GL, and it still works so subsets of GL are just ok :)
10:00 Artox well gtk isnt the problem, libclutter is
10:00 Artox which many gnome applications like to use
10:01 topi` GL is ancient anyways, Vulkan is coming :)
10:01 topi` yes, I know libclutter
10:01 topi` unfortunately :)
10:01 Artox well I doubt Vulkan will come to imx6
10:01 topi` that's true
10:01 topi` but I just wanted to point out that OpenGL has come to the end of its road
10:01 Artox things might get better if the switch to wayland will ever be completed
10:01 Artox yep, seen it
10:02 Artox though I must admit, I thought gles was the future
10:02 topi` yeah. I wish Ubuntu would have pushed Wayland
10:02 topi` there is no future ;) just irrational decisions in big rooms.
10:02 Artox damn, I am in a big room
10:03 topi` also i.MX6 is getting old...
10:03 topi` I wonder if there'll going to be a replacement for it from NXP
10:04 topi` if they fix the broken things, and keep most of the subsystems intact, it'll be easier to upgrade to i.MX9
10:05 topi` when our team went from OMAP2 -> OMAP3, it wasn't all smooth sailing, but most of the stuff written for OMAP2 worked as-is, just changed the offsets
10:05 topi` of course, what we got was a huge boost in application perf
10:43 Artox omap3!
10:44 bencoh they have imx7, but.... err... :)
10:44 bencoh it's just supposed to be a "low-power" clone with a lot of changes
16:57 topi` bencoh: I hope they'll have a better open source process for the kernel in the future
16:57 topi` well i.MX6 is pretty well covered by mainline now, but it took quite a long time
17:00 bencoh for "basic" use maybe, then...
17:09 topi` soon the chinese will have better chips with better mainline status, just look at upcoming RK3399
17:10 topi` if they got the PCIe working properly, then that's one highly useful SoC to build entire platforms upon
17:10 topi` fairly comparable to e.g. Braswell, but with faster CPU cores (cortex-a72)