| 12:25 | vpeter | http://betanews.com/2016/09/22/solidrun-x86-braswell-microsom-linux-windows-10-raspberry-pi/ |
| 12:29 | jnettlet | yep PR went out yesterday |
| 12:30 | vpeter | I'm just looking around: there is no IR receiver on-board right? |
| 12:32 | jnettlet | no. This is a developer board and not our consumer product |
| 12:32 | jnettlet | although we will most likely only support CEC |
| 12:33 | topi` | jnettlet: so, how do I change a regulator OFF in userspace? just by writing to /sys/class/regulator/state ? |
| 12:33 | topi` | it seems regulator.11 ias the name "usb_h1_vbus" so is the one I want |
| 12:33 | jnettlet | topi`, yes |
| 12:33 | jnettlet | I made state writeable |
| 12:33 | topi` | I'll try out your patch now :) |
| 12:34 | jnettlet | great |
| 12:35 | vpeter | jnettlet: I assume there is no GPIO on that board so only option for IR is USB receiver? |
| 12:35 | jnettlet | vpeter, yes |
| 12:36 | vpeter | :( |
| 12:36 | topi` | hmm, I guess I need to write something to power/control |
| 12:36 | topi` | it is currently "auto" |
| 12:36 | jnettlet | this isn't a media board. |
| 12:37 | jnettlet | topi`, you shouldn't need to |
| 12:37 | topi` | I don't know why there are things like "suspend_mem_state" |
| 12:37 | jnettlet | that is if you want certain regulators to stay powered during suspend |
| 12:37 | topi` | OK |
| 12:38 | jnettlet | for example if you want a USB port to stay powered so a keyboard press can wake the system |
| 12:38 | topi` | ok, now, how do I disable the power from usb_h1_vbus? |
| 12:38 | topi` | I'm looking at the files in "regulator.11" subdir :) |
| 12:39 | topi` | can you do some handleading here |
| 12:39 | jnettlet | echo disabled > state |
| 12:39 | topi` | no "state" file here :( |
| 12:39 | topi` | power/control and then power/autosuspend_delay_ms |
| 12:40 | jnettlet | no it should be state. If you don't have that then you are perhaps missing a patch. |
| 12:40 | topi` | DUH! I... forgot to reboot the HB :) |
| 12:43 | jnettlet | :) okay that makes sense |
| 12:53 | wbx | jnettlet: did you receive my mail? :) |
| 12:54 | jnettlet | wbx, I did thanks. I will hopefully have some time over the weekend to get caught up on community requests. |
| 12:55 | wbx | jnettlet: okay, great. thx. |
| 13:03 | jnettlet | topi`, how is that working for you? |
| 14:32 | TomyWork | hi |
| 14:33 | TomyWork | i'm trying to improve my sd card's life time by mounting it read-only behind unionfs/aufs/overlayfs or something of that kind |
| 14:33 | TomyWork | however, the 3.14 kernel that comes with the jessie image doesnt have either of them |
| 14:35 | TomyWork | http://wiki.solid-run.com/doku.php?id=products:imx6:software:os:debian that's where i got that jessie image |
| 14:36 | TomyWork | i used https://images.solid-build.xyz/IMX6/Debian/sr-imx6-debian-jessie-mate-20160226.img.xz |
| 14:45 | TomyWork | what can i do to get aufs or overlayfs? can i use other images that say "imx6" in their name? |
| 14:46 | vpeter | Maybe armbian? Depends what you need from it. |
| 14:47 | TomyWork | i want to run a browser on it |
| 14:47 | TomyWork | pretty much nothing else |
| 14:51 | TomyWork | vpeter neat, armbian has a kernel for the cubox |
| 14:51 | TomyWork | thanks |
| 14:51 | TomyWork | 4.3.3 even |
| 15:00 | vpeter | I don't think it has hardware acceleration video. |
| 15:03 | TomyWork | i'll see how it works :) |
| 15:03 | TomyWork | but right now it wont boot at all |
| 15:03 | TomyWork | and i can't "press any key to stop autoboot" either |
| 15:03 | TomyWork | might be too fast |
| 15:03 | TomyWork | or the usb keyboard driver isnt initialized yet |
| 15:06 | TomyWork | re-symlinked /boot/zImage to the old kernel, that worked |
| 15:24 | topi` | jnettlet: excellent stuff!! I was able to control the charging of an android phone connected to the OTG port of the HB2 |
| 15:25 | topi` | "disabled" -> the charging indicator says no longer AC, and "enabled" -> Charging on AC |
| 15:25 | jnettlet | topi`, great |
| 15:25 | topi` | jnettlet: sorry I went to lunch and had some family errands |
| 15:31 | jnettlet | no worries |
| 15:35 | topi` | jnettlet: I can immediately invent a couple of use cases for this feature. |
| 15:35 | topi` | it's especially useful with this EnerGenie Advanced Surge Protector (4x 230V sockets) that I bought from amazon for $20 |
| 15:35 | jnettlet | topi`, well I will push the changes to add control for the other USB ports |
| 15:36 | topi` | (I already tested it with the EnerGenie as well) |
| 15:36 | topi` | there's this clicking sound when the relay inside it changes state :) |
| 15:36 | jnettlet | great |
| 15:37 | topi` | I guess there are some chinese options if you want to remotely turn 230V on or off, but they're all wireless sockets with chinese-made electric circuits inside |
| 15:37 | topi` | I don't know if they bode well with our home insurance company |
| 15:37 | topi` | the EnerGenie at least has european certificates |
| 15:38 | topi` | the next thing on my list is to control the power to the Floor Warming (500W) but there I have to attack the separate control box |
| 15:39 | topi` | the EnerGenie will control our hot water tank (300 litres) |
| 15:39 | topi` | it was pretty difficult to find a properly made socket that can do 230V 15A |
| 15:39 | jnettlet | and you are going to use this for your hot water heater? |
| 15:39 | topi` | do you guys at Solid-run have any kind of "blog" of interesting solutions? Maybe I can provide you a writeup :) |
| 15:40 | topi` | the hot water gets boiled by electricity. Our electricity cost is per hour and there is a lot of variance and there's a web service where you can check the most optimal hours (cheapest) |
| 15:40 | jnettlet | topi`, funny you mention that. We are now reworking our community section of our web and I wanted to add something like that. |
| 15:40 | topi` | so, I bet this will save at least the cost of a HB Gate in a year :) |
| 15:41 | jnettlet | especially with the IoT being such a hot market topic |
| 15:41 | topi` | yes, indeed |
| 15:41 | topi` | and smart houses |
| 15:41 | topi` | our house is 100 years old, so not very smart |
| 15:42 | topi` | the company who manufactured our water boiler is Norwegian, but they did not (yet) have any internet-controlled models. I bet there would be some synergy... |
| 15:42 | topi` | anyhow, I'm open for contributing my experiences :) |
| 15:42 | topi` | tomorrow we're going to get warm water controlled by the HB |
| 15:43 | jnettlet | great. I will hit you up for it once we get started |
| 15:43 | jnettle | 15:43 * jnettlet hopes topi` doesn't have to take a cold shower |
| 15:43 | topi` | :) |
| 15:43 | topi` | I did try *several* different devices, e.g. a RPi and OrangePI PC but they all failed to properly control the usb vbus |
| 15:43 | topi` | it's just a testament to the design of HB :) |
| 15:44 | topi` | most companies ignore the vbus voltage controls in their designs, or then they just plain don't work |
| 15:44 | jnettlet | well and me specifically bitching about how unreliable usb devices are |
| 15:44 | topi` | same for USB hubs |
| 15:44 | topi` | next thing I'll do is to try to see if I can properly reset a hung USB 3g modem with this code |
| 15:45 | topi` | there are many ways to get these Huawei sticks to throw in the towel |
| 15:47 | topi` | jnettlet: do you expect the same patch to work also for the older HB? |
| 15:48 | topi` | with only 2 usb ports |
| 15:48 | jnettlet | that is one of the the main failure devices that also inspired it |
| 15:48 | jnettlet | topi`, it should but the regulator definitions may need tweaking. |
| 15:49 | topi` | I can test it whether it works, I have several older HBs at home :) |
| 15:49 | topi` | I did check the .dtb files were exactly the same before and after your patch |
| 15:50 | jnettlet | topi`, should work fine |
| 16:02 | TomyWork | what tool generates the /boot/zImage symlink? |
| 16:02 | wrexem | What's the chip run @ in the SoM IB3710 (mHz?) |
| 16:02 | TomyWork | update-initramfs -u doesn't |
| 16:04 | TomyWork | wrexem https://www.solid-run.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Data-Sheet-Braswell-MicroSoM-IB3710.pdf |
| 16:04 | TomyWork | see if that has the info you want |
| 16:04 | TomyWork | 3rd hit on google btw :) |
| 16:04 | wrexem | Man I looked all over for that sheet, lol |
| 16:05 | wrexem | on the specs page for the som |
| 16:05 | wrexem | damn |
| 16:06 | wrexem | Now I see it there too |
| 16:06 | wrexem | I was reading this, vertically: https://www.solid-run.com/intel-braswell-family/braswell-som-system-on-module/braswell-som-specifications/ |
| 16:06 | wrexem | And it didn't have the units on the line, so I glazed it |
| 16:06 | wrexe | 16:06 * wrexem needs coffee. |
| 16:09 | wrexem | Last question - M2 -> storage capable? |
| 16:18 | TomyWork | vpeter i cannot run an x server now, it seems. is that what you meant by "no hardware acceleration"? |
| 16:19 | TomyWork | can i use unaccelerated graphics maybe? |
| 17:17 | jnettlet | wrexem, yes m.2 sata capable. |
| 17:18 | jnettlet | not m.2 pcie ssds |
| 17:26 | wrexem | cool thanks jnettlet |
| 17:26 | jnettlet | wrexem, anything else I can answer? |
| 18:31 | vpeter | TomyWork: http://docs.armbian.com/Hardware_Freescale-imx6/ only legacy kernel has video support. |
| 18:51 | TomyWork | ah, crap |
| 18:52 | TomyWork | you'd think they could just release the source for all those driver modules and then dkms would take care of it all |
| 18:52 | TomyWork | oh well, i already scaled back my ambitions anyway |
| 18:53 | TomyWork | i put tmp on a tmpfs and /home on an nfs mount. |
| 18:53 | TomyWork | in case it still fails, i'll make an image of the card |
| 18:58 | vpeter | TomyWork: but even legacy kernel probably supports aufs or somrthing similar? Then you just need to compile new armbians kernel. |
| 18:59 | TomyWork | nope |
| 18:59 | TomyWork | like i said, i'm done with it :) |
| 18:59 | TomyWork | i'll leave it as it is |
| 18:59 | vpeter | :D |
| 19:09 | wrexem | @ jnettlet thanks, I said that would be my last question. So far so good. :) |