| 00:36 | coburn | manufacutrers use *F instead of *C? |
| 08:47 | vpeter | Wel, if I see 65000 there this is no F either :) |
| 09:07 | vpeter | I'm asking this because Armbian is using some strange math: https://github.com/armbian/build/blob/master/scripts/update-motd.d/30-sysinfo#L42 |
| 09:08 | vpeter | It subtracts 20 degrees from /sys/devices/virtual/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp. |
| 12:19 | topi` | vpeter: what are you running lede on? |
| 12:57 | vpeter | clerfog pro |
| 13:23 | topi` | cool... I want one, too :) |
| 13:24 | topi` | but first, I need to get my macchiatoBIN going. Its power supply failed, it now outputs +0V |
| 13:24 | topi` | I'll try another variable voltage power source with barrell connector |
| 13:24 | vpeter | Your macchiatoBIN still offline? And you want so long for it :( |
| 13:24 | topi` | I also bought a 16GB DIMM (2400mhz) for it, it'll be interesting to see whether it works or not |
| 13:25 | topi` | it needs a fan, gets way too hot when compiling linux with make -j8 :) |
| 13:25 | vpeter | This reminds me: need to buy one mini pcie wifi card. |
| 13:25 | topi` | I need to buy a 802.11ac mpcie card |
| 13:25 | vpeter | Fan is included or yours? |
| 13:26 | topi` | possibly a Compex WLE600VX |
| 13:26 | topi` | I have some fans, need to check a suitable one |
| 13:27 | vpeter | I'm thinking to put one on solidpc also. Now that we have summer it gets little wormer too :-) |
| 13:27 | topi` | yeah, summers are difficult |
| 13:27 | topi` | luckily we have airco in our house |
| 13:28 | topi` | I need to install some solar panels to provide it with eletrciticy. The hotter the sun shines, the hotter the house gets :) and the more power the panels actually output... |
| 13:28 | vpeter | It works like that yes :D |
| 13:29 | topi` | they have possibly the cheapest solar kits in EU: https://www.ev-power.eu/Solar-Systems/GridFree-Kit-of-2pcs-of-solar-panel-310-Wp-Microinverter-230V-500W.html |
| 13:29 | topi` | gonna order a bunch of those kits |
| 13:33 | topi` | I want to build a proper network hub for our house, and that's why I was eyeing the CF pro with its builtin Gbit ethernet switch and all |
| 13:33 | topi` | I could even, probably, draw some fibre to our neighbor's house at 300 meters, and try getting a SFP module for fiber |
| 13:34 | vpeter | and faster internet :) |
| 13:34 | topi` | damn, I hate being behind 4G |
| 13:34 | topi` | the big problem is that our house is in an island |
| 13:34 | topi` | and they won't cover this place with fiber |
| 13:34 | topi` | too few houses |
| 13:35 | vpeter | Use two of those https://www.ubnt.com/airfiber/airfiber5/ and make a link? If you could attach to it on the other side. |
| 13:40 | jnettlet | Long range point to point wifi is great until bad weather hits |
| 13:41 | jnettlet | vpeter, did you get your temps question answered? |
| 13:41 | topi` | jnettlet: it's also easy to just drop some fibre to the bottom of the sea :D |
| 13:42 | topi` | the water is more than 5 meters deep between |
| 13:43 | vpeter | jnettlet: not yet. |
| 13:45 | vpeter | I assume this temp in /sys/devices/virtual/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp is just a die temp as usual. |
| 13:45 | topi` | on the macchiatoBIN, those temps are most probably die temps since they can hit as high as 95C |
| 13:46 | vpeter | The question come from here http://forum.solid-run.com/hardware-f33/beefing-up-the-heatsink-alternatives--t3306.html#p22198 |
| 13:52 | topi` | vpeter: these armbian scripts do not seem very scientific :D |
| 13:52 | topi` | it seems there is a linear relationship in the readings, though. Should be corrected via a formula like x = k*a + b and not like this |
| 13:53 | topi` | OTOH, I think a metal heatsink that is at 55 deg Celsius DEFINITELY burns my hand |
| 13:53 | topi` | but this is just because of the properties of efficient heat transfer when the material is metal |
| 13:53 | vpeter | topi`: why even subtract some value? That's the question. |
| 13:54 | vpeter | 55 doesn't burn the hand. I have 65. But it is VERY hot. |
| 13:54 | topi` | I need to order a TMP006 from TI and test out the surface temperatures |
| 13:55 | topi` | http://www.ti.com/product/TMP006 |
| 13:55 | vpeter | Long time back I turned on one old intel P4 or something without heatsink. This was hot :) |
| 13:56 | topi` | oh yeah, those were nuclear furnaces |
| 13:57 | topi` | I wonder if it were possible to hook up a modern Radeon PCIe card on the Macchiato and see if the open source DRI codes work with it :) |
| 13:58 | topi` | the connector is a x4, though, so some kind of adapter needed |
| 14:01 | topi` | probably NVMe storage could also be plugged in the x4 slot, but I'm unsure of if it is supported in linux |
| 14:02 | vpeter | I think there are some LibreELEC users with it. |
| 14:03 | jnettlet | I am working on getting next gen cooling with heat pipes or vapor chambers, but really a small slow moving silent fan is the best options. I have some models I have tested |
| 14:04 | jnettlet | The problem is The heatsink fins are close enough that they tend to get vapor locked and natural convection isn't efficient enough |
| 14:05 | vpeter | jnettlet: you have those fan models at hand? Something small, efficient and silent. |
| 14:09 | jnettlet | https://goo.gl/photos/Ycj5xyUA29nfNe1x6 |
| 14:09 | jnettlet | Not right at hand |
| 14:10 | jnettlet | 😁 |
| 14:12 | jnettlet | They are up on my laptop. Will dig them out for you. The best one I found was scavenged from the inside of my boxee box. It was rated for 9 or 12 volts but runs happily at 5 volts and you would never know it was on. |
| 14:12 | jnettlet | It is a 40mm fan |
| 14:13 | vpeter | jnettlet: But you need a fan there too :D |
| 14:13 | jnettlet | Yeah but bigger than 40mm. 38C right now. |
| 17:16 | vpeter | Artox: Do you have any idea why with lede master I have random mac addreses of eth on every boot? |
| 17:19 | jnettlet | vpeter, set the mac addresses in the u-boot env and save it |
| 17:21 | vpeter | Seems this was changed between old version and this. |
| 17:43 | vpeter | Done. |
| 17:44 | vpeter | jnettlet: I have one strange problem with mini pcie wifi card. Sometimes it is recognized (lspci shows it) but most of the times it is not detected. What it could be? |
| 18:18 | Artox | vpeter, old version? |
| 18:18 | Artox | you mean our fork based on 4.4 kernel? |
| 18:21 | vpeter | Yes, your fork from end of 2015. Mac address was fine there. But lede master gives random one. |
| 18:22 | Artox | I can't remember if I did magic to force setenv on first boot |
| 18:22 | Artox | It sure was a hack |
| 18:22 | Artox | but Lede didn't like *any* of it |
| 18:23 | vpeter | Windows reported new network on every clearfog reboot. Not nice. |
| 18:23 | Artox | xDDDD |
| 18:23 | Artox | well thats your Windows |
| 18:24 | Artox | sometimes it is fun |
| 18:24 | vpeter | and sometimes not |
| 18:26 | vpeter | In such situations I'm very disappointed. |
| 18:32 | Artox | I see |
| 18:32 | vpeter | jnettlet: I forgot to tell you what was wrong with my UTP cable that didn't work with SFP module: connectors were mismatched (original end has T568B and other T568A). |
| 18:33 | vpeter | Artox: Don't get me wrong - this statement was not intent to you, sr or others. |
| 18:33 | Artox | I thought it was about Windows |
| 18:33 | vpeter | It just indicates that hw is not meant for general public. |
| 18:33 | Artox | either way, it is perfectly fine to disappointed in this mac address issue |
| 18:33 | Artox | the way I solved it for the debian images is a pain |