| 18:01 | Exaga> | jnettlet: ben je er nog? |
| 18:01 | Exaga> | jnettlet: sorry, are you around? |
| 18:02 | jnettlet> | Yep, on and off |
| 18:03 | Exaga> | cool. you told me that the clearfog-itx was available at a discounted price... but before the official release date. am i correct? |
| 18:04 | Exaga> | and if so... how does one go about getting one at that time/cost? |
| 18:06 | jnettlet> | Yes. The developer board is now called HoneyComb LX2K. We have split the target markets. The developer board will only have 2 10G SFP+ ports. No super fast networking, but cheaper. Clearfog will be the higher end networking board |
| 18:06 | Exaga> | ahhh right gotcha. thank you |
| 18:06 | jnettlet> | The developer early access board will be $550, 1 per developer |
| 18:06 | Exaga> | so the clearfog-itx comes *AFTER* honeycomb |
| 18:07 | jnettlet> | ClearFog CX. The developer board will stay branded HoneyComb |
| 18:07 | Exaga> | and the honeycomb is a prototype release so tp speak |
| 18:08 | Exaga> | right now i'm on the same page. thanks |
| 18:08 | jnettlet> | HoneyComb is the desktop focused product, ClearFog is the network focused product |
| 18:09 | jnettlet> | The developer board is shipped and rated at 2Ghz, vs the production 2.2Ghz, but we have the chip over clocked and over volted to run at 2.4GHz |
| 18:09 | Exaga> | if it follows the trend of the former clearfogs then it will have a great heritage |
| 18:10 | jnettlet> | Which is a big boost. But is officially but supported which is why we wanted to differentiate the product lines |
| 18:10 | Exaga> | and how many of the honeycombs will be made approx? |
| 18:10 | Exaga> | is it first come first buy? |
| 18:13 | jnettlet> | We are still working that out with NXP. My guess is the first run will be a few hundred, but we aren't limiting the pre-order. So if you buy during the time we are offering it at $550, you will get it even if we get more orders |
| 18:14 | jnettlet> | We want to get this hardware in the hands and on the desktops of developers |
| 18:14 | Exaga> | trust me i'm working on it at my end :> |
| 18:15 | Exaga> | it's all i have thought about since you told me about it lol |
| 18:17 | jnettlet> | Well don't kill yourself. It is just a start of a new generation of products |
| 18:18 | jnettlet> | Glad you are excited about the possibilities though |
| 18:19 | Exaga> | hell yeah! :D |
| 18:19 | Exaga> | i see kernels compiling before the kettle boils |
| 18:20 | Exaga> | i see many possibilities that would never have been achievable without this device |
| 18:21 | vpeter> | Out of curiosity: How many devices are you planing to make if this is not a secret? You are talking for few 100 for a start. So I assume it is few 1000 total? |
| 18:22 | Exaga> | vpeter: i'm first in line! |
| 18:22 | Exaga> | :> |
| 18:22 | Exaga> | seriously, like any manufacturer it will be based on supply and demand |
| 18:22 | Exaga> | if the entire world needs it they will make 100,000,000 |
| 18:23 | Exaga> | i hope :> |
| 18:24 | Exaga> | jnettlet: personally i would use it to build Slackware AARCH64 in a fraction of the time it would take on a Raspberry Pi |
| 18:24 | Exaga> | that's mainly what I need it for |
| 18:25 | Exaga> | Mozes, the Slackware ARM dev would need one too, or I'd be put on the naughty step again :( |
| 18:34 | vpeter> | Exaga: Sure, there is always demand & supply. But with such a price it is not a machine for everybody. Only who really need it. Like you :) Raspberry Pi .... :-) |
| 18:35 | Exaga> | vpeter: don't get me wrong. i do what i do for the raspberry pi because nobody else did it or has done it |
| 18:35 | Exaga> | it's all automated now. all i have to do is run the build process and then load the results onto the website |
| 18:36 | Exaga> | the solidrun stuff is wayyyyyyyyyyy more fun and interesting |
| 18:36 | Exaga> | and no bullshit closed-source firmware to deal with |
| 18:38 | Exaga> | solidrun are a hell of a lot more "with it" and accommodating when it comes to support too |
| 18:47 | jnettlet> | Exaga vpeter this will be a normal long term support product. The initial offering is just for the reduced pricing |
| 18:49 | jnettlet> | The price is definitely a step up, but still less than other ARM server/workstation boards. |
| 18:51 | Exaga> | for this standard of technology the price of the dev board is decent |
| 18:53 | jnettlet> | And with EU energy prices you will save another 70 euros a year just on idle power usage reduction over a high powered x86_64 option |
| 18:54 | Exaga> | hahaha if i had the dev board running idle it would be a very rare event |
| 18:54 | jnettlet> | I a. Still working out those numbers |
| 18:55 | jnettlet> | Just for reference a full 4.19 kernel builds for aarch64 defconfig takes 5.5 minutes including modules |
| 18:55 | Exaga | 18:55 * Exaga weeps |
| 18:56 | jnettlet> | My 4 year old i7 takes 7.5 minutes cross compiling |
| 18:57 | Exaga> | in comparison... on a hummingboard i2ex it takes approx 7 hours, on a Raspberry Pi 3B+ it takes approx 4 hours, on a Raspberry Pi (1) it takes over 24 hours |
| 18:58 | Exaga> | haven't done it on the clearfog yet |
| 18:58 | Exaga> | not sure if i should |
| 18:58 | jnettlet> | Don't try |
| 18:58 | Exaga> | nope |
| 18:58 | Exaga> | but it would be easy enough to do |
| 18:58 | Exaga> | just concerned i would fry it |
| 18:59 | jnettlet> | We are also looking at making a cluster of boards available to community members as build devices. |
| 19:00 | jnettlet> | As always we are trying to support the community needs |
| 19:00 | Exaga> | if i win the euro lottery can i buy more than 1 dev board? |
| 19:02 | vpeter> | Use all of your friends names and addresses :D |
| 19:02 | Exaga | 19:02 * Exaga makes a note of that |
| 19:02 | Exaga> | good thinking |
| 19:02 | Exaga> | and family |
| 19:02 | Exaga> | work colleagues |
| 19:02 | vpeter> | I'm sure you don't need that much boards :-) |
| 19:02 | jnettlet> | Only 1 per developer, then full price |
| 19:02 | jnettlet | 19:02 * jnettlet no comment ;) |
| 19:03 | Exaga> | just 1 of these devices would be more than enough |